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  #1  
Old 06-30-2004, 01:58 PM
Dr Jason Scott Barron
 
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Default XP-Home and XP-PRO

I have two computer connected via a wireless router and
other needed hardware. I am able to get on to the web
with no problem. When I run my computer number one that
has bother XP-Home and XP-PRO I can connect, as I stated
to the internet not trouble. On the XP-HOME I can
connect to my computer number two to get access to files
there. However, when I am running XP-PRO and can not get
a connection setup. Can anyone please let me know how I
can get my two computers to speak to each other either in
XP-Home or XP-PRO. You can reply to this post or e-mail
at DrJSBarron@msn.com

Thank you,
Jason
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  #2  
Old 06-30-2004, 02:26 PM
Chuck
 
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Default Re: XP-Home and XP-PRO

On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 05:58:20 -0700, "Dr Jason Scott Barron"
<*email_address_deleted*> wrote:

>I have two computer connected via a wireless router and
>other needed hardware. I am able to get on to the web
>with no problem. When I run my computer number one that
>has bother XP-Home and XP-PRO I can connect, as I stated
>to the internet not trouble. On the XP-HOME I can
>connect to my computer number two to get access to files
>there. However, when I am running XP-PRO and can not get
>a connection setup. Can anyone please let me know how I
>can get my two computers to speak to each other either in
>XP-Home or XP-PRO. You can reply to this post or e-mail
>at *email_address_deleted*
>
>Thank you,
>Jason


Jason,

On the XP Pro computer, check to see if Simple File Sharing (Control Panel -
Folder Options - View - Advanced settings) is enabled or disabled. With XP Pro,
you need to have SFS properly set.

With XP Pro, if SFS is disabled, check the Local Security Policy (Control Panel
- Administrative Tools). Under Local Policies - Security Options, look at
"Network access: Sharing and security model", and ensure it's set to "Classic -
local users authenticate as themselves".

With XP Pro, if you set the Local Security Policy to "Guest only", make sure
that the Guest account is enabled, thru Local User Manager (Start - Run -
"lusrmgr.msc"), and has an identical, non-blank, password on all computers. If
"Classic", setup and use a common non-Guest account, with identical, non-blank,
password on all computers.

For XP Home, OR for XP Pro with Simple File Sharing enabled, make sure that the
Guest account is enabled (for XP Pro, thru Local User Manager (Start - Run -
"lusrmgr.msc")), on each computer.

Do any of the computers have a software firewall (ICF or third party)? If so,
you need to configure them for file sharing, by opening ports TCP 139, 445 and
UDP 137, 138, 445, and / or by identifying the other computers as present in the
Local (Trusted) zone. Firewall configurations are a very common cause of
(network) browser, and file sharing, problems.

And Jason, please don't contribute to the spread and success of email address
mining viruses. Learn to munge your email address properly, to keep yourself a
bit safer when posting to open forums. Protect yourself and the rest of the
internet - read this article.
http://www.mailmsg.com/SPAM_munging.htm

Please let us know what, if anything, solves your problem. Everybody learns
here.

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
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Old 06-30-2004, 04:15 PM
JamesLilli@noaddress.con
 
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Default Re: XP-Home and XP-PRO

On 30 Jun 2004 08:26:07 -0500, Chuck <none@example.net> wrote:

>On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 05:58:20 -0700, "Dr Jason Scott Barron"
><*email_address_deleted*> wrote:
>
>>I have two computer connected via a wireless router and
>>other needed hardware. I am able to get on to the web
>>with no problem. When I run my computer number one that
>>has bother XP-Home and XP-PRO I can connect, as I stated
>>to the internet not trouble. On the XP-HOME I can
>>connect to my computer number two to get access to files
>>there. However, when I am running XP-PRO and can not get
>>a connection setup. Can anyone please let me know how I
>>can get my two computers to speak to each other either in
>>XP-Home or XP-PRO. You can reply to this post or e-mail
>>at *email_address_deleted*
>>
>>Thank you,
>>Jason

>
>Jason,
>
>On the XP Pro computer, check to see if Simple File Sharing (Control Panel -
>Folder Options - View - Advanced settings) is enabled or disabled. With XP Pro,
>you need to have SFS properly set.
>
>With XP Pro, if SFS is disabled,


What if it's enabled?

>check the Local Security Policy (Control Panel
>- Administrative Tools). Under Local Policies - Security Options, look at
>"Network access: Sharing and security model", and ensure it's set to "Classic -
>local users authenticate as themselves".
>
>With XP Pro, if you set the Local Security Policy to "Guest only", make sure
>that the Guest account is enabled, thru Local User Manager (Start - Run -
>"lusrmgr.msc"), and has an identical, non-blank, password on all computers. If
>"Classic", setup and use a common non-Guest account, with identical, non-blank,
>password on all computers.
>

I'm not sure what this means. I'm the only person using these computers.
I have two identical user names with identical passwords.


>For XP Home, OR for XP Pro with Simple File Sharing enabled, make sure that the
>Guest account is enabled (for XP Pro, thru Local User Manager (Start - Run -
>"lusrmgr.msc")), on each computer.
>

Isn't there something I have to do with networking protocols or ips first?
Under Win 98 you installed the identical protocol enabled file sharing and you
were networked.
I have no idea how to do this safely under XP.
I don't even know where to start.

>Do any of the computers have a software firewall (ICF or third party)? If so,
>you need to configure them for file sharing, by opening ports TCP 139, 445 and
>UDP 137, 138, 445, and / or by identifying the other computers as present in the
>Local (Trusted) zone. Firewall configurations are a very common cause of
>(network) browser, and file sharing, problems.
>
>And Jason, please don't contribute to the spread and success of email address
>mining viruses. Learn to munge your email address properly, to keep yourself a
>bit safer when posting to open forums. Protect yourself and the rest of the
>internet - read this article.
>http://www.mailmsg.com/SPAM_munging.htm
>
>Please let us know what, if anything, solves your problem. Everybody learns
>here.
>
>Cheers,
>Chuck
>Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.


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Old 06-30-2004, 05:44 PM
Chuck
 
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Default Re: XP-Home and XP-PRO

On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 15:15:29 GMT, *email_address_deleted* wrote:

>On 30 Jun 2004 08:26:07 -0500, Chuck <none@example.net> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 05:58:20 -0700, "Dr Jason Scott Barron"
>><*email_address_deleted*> wrote:
>>
>>>I have two computer connected via a wireless router and
>>>other needed hardware. I am able to get on to the web
>>>with no problem. When I run my computer number one that
>>>has bother XP-Home and XP-PRO I can connect, as I stated
>>>to the internet not trouble. On the XP-HOME I can
>>>connect to my computer number two to get access to files
>>>there. However, when I am running XP-PRO and can not get
>>>a connection setup. Can anyone please let me know how I
>>>can get my two computers to speak to each other either in
>>>XP-Home or XP-PRO. You can reply to this post or e-mail
>>>at *email_address_deleted*
>>>
>>>Thank you,
>>>Jason

>>
>>Jason,
>>
>>On the XP Pro computer, check to see if Simple File Sharing (Control Panel -
>>Folder Options - View - Advanced settings) is enabled or disabled. With XP Pro,
>>you need to have SFS properly set.
>>
>>With XP Pro, if SFS is disabled,

>
>What if it's enabled?
>
>>check the Local Security Policy (Control Panel
>>- Administrative Tools). Under Local Policies - Security Options, look at
>>"Network access: Sharing and security model", and ensure it's set to "Classic -
>>local users authenticate as themselves".
>>
>>With XP Pro, if you set the Local Security Policy to "Guest only", make sure
>>that the Guest account is enabled, thru Local User Manager (Start - Run -
>>"lusrmgr.msc"), and has an identical, non-blank, password on all computers. If
>>"Classic", setup and use a common non-Guest account, with identical, non-blank,
>>password on all computers.
>>

>I'm not sure what this means. I'm the only person using these computers.
>I have two identical user names with identical passwords.
>
>
>>For XP Home, OR for XP Pro with Simple File Sharing enabled, make sure that the
>>Guest account is enabled (for XP Pro, thru Local User Manager (Start - Run -
>>"lusrmgr.msc")), on each computer.
>>

>Isn't there something I have to do with networking protocols or ips first?
>Under Win 98 you installed the identical protocol enabled file sharing and you
>were networked.
>I have no idea how to do this safely under XP.
>I don't even know where to start.
>
>>Do any of the computers have a software firewall (ICF or third party)? If so,
>>you need to configure them for file sharing, by opening ports TCP 139, 445 and
>>UDP 137, 138, 445, and / or by identifying the other computers as present in the
>>Local (Trusted) zone. Firewall configurations are a very common cause of
>>(network) browser, and file sharing, problems.
>>
>>And Jason, please don't contribute to the spread and success of email address
>>mining viruses. Learn to munge your email address properly, to keep yourself a
>>bit safer when posting to open forums. Protect yourself and the rest of the
>>internet - read this article.
>>http://www.mailmsg.com/SPAM_munging.htm
>>
>>Please let us know what, if anything, solves your problem. Everybody learns
>>here.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Chuck
>>Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.


James,

Are you Jason also? Or are you another person with these problems?

From Jason's problem description, he is able to connect XP Home to XP Pro, but
not vice versa. Non-symetrical connectivity is not symptomatic of a protocol
problem. And Windows XP, by default, has all the necessary protocols installed.

Which makes me suspect two possibilities - Simple / Advanced File Sharing
settings, and firewall interference.

For file sharing problems, Microsoft provides this article (which I read from
time to time):
<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=87c0a6db-aef8-4bef-925e-7ac9be791028&DisplayLang=en>

You say that you have two computers, with "two identical user names with
identical passwords". Are you using Simple, or Advanced, File Sharing? With
SFS, you have to enable the Guest account (for XP Pro, thru Local User Manager
(Start - Run - "lusrmgr.msc")) - the Guest account is the only authentication
used in SFS. Remember, SFS is permanently set on XP Home - and it is selectable
on XP Pro.

Then, if you have XP Pro with Advanced File Sharing, check the Local Security
Policy. The "Guest only" setting makes you authenticate as if you have SFS on,
which makes your two identical user names pretty useless. If you set AFS on
(SFS off), CHECK THE LSP as noted.

Also, if you have a personal firewall in use on either computer, RTFM. And
configure it as noted.

If none of this is any help, there is more to check - let us know. But please
check the above settings, as noted, first.

Your munging is an improvement, but it's not spot on yet. The domain
"noaddress.com" actually exists:
<http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=noaddress.com>
Read:
<http://members.aol.com/emailfaq/mungfaq.html>

Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
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