I have 2 win98 computers and a new XP machine in my home
(which replaced an old Win95 machine). Previously the 2
win98 machines were on a network using NetBEUI. The two
Win98 machines see each other, but not the XP machine, the
XP machine does not see either Win98 machine (in fact, it
doesn't even 'see' itself, only the shared documents
folder shows up in 'my network places').
I have tried installing NetBEUI on the XP machine, and
TCP/IP on the Win98 machines, all to no avail. The only
thing different about the XP machine (verus the Win95
machine that it replaced) is XP rather than Win95, and the
installation of two network cards (one for DSL, the other
for the in-house network).
Anyone have any suggestions as to how to get the XP
machine into the loop?
On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 08:18:23 -0700, "LDMartin1959"
<anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>I have 2 win98 computers and a new XP machine in my home
>(which replaced an old Win95 machine). Previously the 2
>win98 machines were on a network using NetBEUI. The two
>Win98 machines see each other, but not the XP machine, the
>XP machine does not see either Win98 machine (in fact, it
>doesn't even 'see' itself, only the shared documents
>folder shows up in 'my network places').
>
>I have tried installing NetBEUI on the XP machine, and
>TCP/IP on the Win98 machines, all to no avail. The only
>thing different about the XP machine (verus the Win95
>machine that it replaced) is XP rather than Win95, and the
>installation of two network cards (one for DSL, the other
>for the in-house network).
>
>Anyone have any suggestions as to how to get the XP
>machine into the loop?
>
>Thanks.
>
>LDMartin1959
My personal recommendation would be to get a NAT router, and get rid of the
second network card in the XP computer. For so many reasons.
If you can't do that, then install TCP/IP, and enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP, on
both computers. Then activate ICS on the XP computer, to provide TCP/IP
settings for the Win98 computer. Forget NetBEUI.
Once that is done, from each computer, verify connectivity:
1) Ping the other by name.
2) Ping the other by ip address.
3) Ping itself by name.
4) Ping itself by ip address.
5) Ping 127.0.0.1.
Report success / failure of each of 10 pings.
Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
>I have 2 win98 computers and a new XP machine in my home
>(which replaced an old Win95 machine). Previously the 2
>win98 machines were on a network using NetBEUI. The two
>Win98 machines see each other, but not the XP machine, the
>XP machine does not see either Win98 machine (in fact, it
>doesn't even 'see' itself, only the shared documents
>folder shows up in 'my network places').
>
>I have tried installing NetBEUI on the XP machine, and
>TCP/IP on the Win98 machines, all to no avail. The only
>thing different about the XP machine (verus the Win95
>machine that it replaced) is XP rather than Win95, and the
>installation of two network cards (one for DSL, the other
>for the in-house network).
>
>Anyone have any suggestions as to how to get the XP
>machine into the loop?
At the moment a router is not an option. On the other
hand, if I am having trouble with something as simple as
this, I may not be able to handle dealing with a
router .
Checked the settings you indicated on the various
machines. All is in order. Still no success. The XP
machine will ping to itself (all three ping targets), but
can not ping the other computers (reports "time out"
and "all packets lost"). The reverse holds from the other
computers to the XP machine.
Any more thoughts/suggestions.
Thanks.
LDMartin1959
("Just because you're paranoid doen't mean they're not out
to get you")
>-----Original Message-----
>On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 08:18:23 -0700, "LDMartin1959"
><anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>>I have 2 win98 computers and a new XP machine in my home
>>(which replaced an old Win95 machine). Previously the 2
>>win98 machines were on a network using NetBEUI. The two
>>Win98 machines see each other, but not the XP machine,
the
>>XP machine does not see either Win98 machine (in fact,
it
>>doesn't even 'see' itself, only the shared documents
>>folder shows up in 'my network places').
>>
>>I have tried installing NetBEUI on the XP machine, and
>>TCP/IP on the Win98 machines, all to no avail. The only
>>thing different about the XP machine (verus the Win95
>>machine that it replaced) is XP rather than Win95, and
the
>>installation of two network cards (one for DSL, the
other
>>for the in-house network).
>>
>>Anyone have any suggestions as to how to get the XP
>>machine into the loop?
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>LDMartin1959
>
>Here are a couple websites with useful tutorials:
>http://www.cablesense.com/
>http://www.homenethelp.com/
>
>My personal recommendation would be to get a NAT router,
and get rid of the
>second network card in the XP computer. For so many
reasons.
>
>If you can't do that, then install TCP/IP, and enable
NetBIOS Over TCP/IP, on
>both computers. Then activate ICS on the XP computer, to
provide TCP/IP
>settings for the Win98 computer. Forget NetBEUI.
>
>Once that is done, from each computer, verify
connectivity:
>1) Ping the other by name.
>2) Ping the other by ip address.
>3) Ping itself by name.
>4) Ping itself by ip address.
>5) Ping 127.0.0.1.
>Report success / failure of each of 10 pings.
>
>Cheers,
>Chuck
>Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a
bad thing.
>.
>
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 06:29:01 -0700, "LDMartin1959"
<anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>Chuck,
>
>At the moment a router is not an option. On the other
>hand, if I am having trouble with something as simple as
>this, I may not be able to handle dealing with a
>router .
>
>Checked the settings you indicated on the various
>machines. All is in order. Still no success. The XP
>machine will ping to itself (all three ping targets), but
>can not ping the other computers (reports "time out"
>and "all packets lost"). The reverse holds from the other
>computers to the XP machine.
Sorry a router is not possible right now - setting one up is easier than you
think. And more affordable.
So let's do some detailed analysis of your network.
Please provide ipconfig information for each computer.
Start - Run - "cmd". Type "ipconfig /all >c:\ipconfig.txt" into the command
window - Open c:\ipconfig.txt in Notepad, copy and paste into your next post.
Label each ipconfig with name of operating system.
Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
>-----Original Message-----
>On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 06:29:01 -0700, "LDMartin1959"
><anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>>Chuck,
>>
>>At the moment a router is not an option. On the other
>>hand, if I am having trouble with something as simple as
>>this, I may not be able to handle dealing with a
>>router .
>>
>>Checked the settings you indicated on the various
>>machines. All is in order. Still no success. The XP
>>machine will ping to itself (all three ping targets), but
>>can not ping the other computers (reports "time out"
>>and "all packets lost"). The reverse holds from the other
>>computers to the XP machine.
>
>Sorry a router is not possible right now - setting one up
is easier than you
>think. And more affordable.
>
>So let's do some detailed analysis of your network.
>
>Please provide ipconfig information for each computer.
>Start - Run - "cmd". Type "ipconfig /all >c:\ipconfig.
txt" into the command
>window - Open c:\ipconfig.txt in Notepad, copy and paste
into your next post.
>Label each ipconfig with name of operating system.
>
>Cheers,
>Chuck
>Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a
bad thing.
>.
>
On Tue, 4 May 2004 16:40:18 -0700, "LDMartin1959"
<anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>Chuck,
>
>Sorry for the delay. Been a lousey last few days.... Ok,
>here is the info for the XP machine and one of the 98
>machines:
<SNIP Diagnostic Data>
I presume Picard is connecting to Troi thru the Starfleet LAN. Pity you
couldn't name the LAN connection on Troi too. How does the other computer
connect? Is there a hub / switch somewhere? Make and model number might be
useful.
Hey throw in ipconfig for the other too please. Might give us a clue.
Anyway, apparently the Starfleet LAN adapters on Picard (Realtek) and Troi
(Novell) are both set for autoconfiguration, but, since there's no DHCP server,
they're picking up APIPA addresses. Both addresses, 169.254.238.161 and
169.254.149.192, are in the same subnet (169.254/16), so, if there truly is
connectivity, they should communicate.
But you haven't described HOW they connect. And where does internet service
come in? And did you install / enable NBT on all 3 computers?
From each computer, Picard and Troi, check IP connectivity with the other:
1) Ping the other by name.
2) Ping the other by ip address.
3) Ping itself by name.
4) Ping itself by ip address.
5) Ping 127.0.0.1.
Report success / failure of each of 10 pings.
Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
XP cant see Win98 machines 
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