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Old 02-03-2008, 04:23 PM
PeterB
 
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Default Vista PC Invisible on my Network

I have added a new Vista PC to my home network but it is not visible from my
old Xp machine

It has the same Workgroup
I have tried dynamic IP address's provided by my router, and static, neither
make any difference.
I cannot ping the Vista machine from the Xp machine. A "Network not found"
error is returned.
The Vista machine sees the Xp PC , my network store and my Router, and can
ping them all.
I can access the Internet from both the Vista PC and the Xp PC.
I have tried both Public and Private network settings on the Vista PC, they
make no difference. It is left on Private

I am rather disappointed with Vista, it is slow and fussy. This problem
makes it next to useless if I cannot fully use my network!

I would be pleased to hear any suggestions.

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Old 02-03-2008, 05:18 PM
Jack \(MVP-Networking\).
 
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Default Re: Vista PC Invisible on my Network

Hi
Successful Sharing involves some general consideration in Network settings,
http://www.ezlan.net/sharing.html
As well as specific adjustment of each computer according to what it is
allowed to be shared.
Vista File and Printer Sharing-
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/net.../vista_fp.mspx
Windows XP File Sharing -
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;304040
Printer Sharing XP -
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...utt_july2.mspx
Windows Native Firewall setting for Sharing XP -
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875357
Windows XP patch for Sharing with Vista -
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120
Jack (MVP-Networking).

"PeterB" <PeterB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3A31DDC0-0B41-4887-9EE9-3F156DD57A53@microsoft.com...
>I have added a new Vista PC to my home network but it is not visible from
>my
> old Xp machine
>
> It has the same Workgroup
> I have tried dynamic IP address's provided by my router, and static,
> neither
> make any difference.
> I cannot ping the Vista machine from the Xp machine. A "Network not found"
> error is returned.
> The Vista machine sees the Xp PC , my network store and my Router, and can
> ping them all.
> I can access the Internet from both the Vista PC and the Xp PC.
> I have tried both Public and Private network settings on the Vista PC,
> they
> make no difference. It is left on Private
>
> I am rather disappointed with Vista, it is slow and fussy. This problem
> makes it next to useless if I cannot fully use my network!
>
> I would be pleased to hear any suggestions.
>


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Old 02-03-2008, 05:44 PM
Steve Winograd
 
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Default Re: Vista PC Invisible on my Network

On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 08:23:01 -0800, PeterB
<PeterB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>I have added a new Vista PC to my home network but it is not visible from my
>old Xp machine
>
>It has the same Workgroup
>I have tried dynamic IP address's provided by my router, and static, neither
>make any difference.
>I cannot ping the Vista machine from the Xp machine. A "Network not found"
>error is returned.
>The Vista machine sees the Xp PC , my network store and my Router, and can
>ping them all.
>I can access the Internet from both the Vista PC and the Xp PC.
>I have tried both Public and Private network settings on the Vista PC, they
>make no difference. It is left on Private
>
>I am rather disappointed with Vista, it is slow and fussy. This problem
>makes it next to useless if I cannot fully use my network!
>
>I would be pleased to hear any suggestions.


A misconfigured firewall program on the Vista machine (Windows
Firewall, Norton, McAfee, PC-cillin, etc) could be causing the
problem.

I'm not familiar with the "ping" command giving a "Network not found"
error. Is that really what it says when you ping Vista from Xp? If
so, the error is due to something being configured wrong on Xp.

"Private" is the right network setting on Vista. "Public" would block
access by other computers on the network.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
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Old 02-03-2008, 07:28 PM
PeterB
 
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Default Re: Vista PC Invisible on my Network



"Steve Winograd" wrote:

> A misconfigured firewall program on the Vista machine (Windows
> Firewall, Norton, McAfee, PC-cillin, etc) could be causing the
> problem.
>
> I'm not familiar with the "ping" command giving a "Network not found"
> error. Is that really what it says when you ping Vista from Xp? If
> so, the error is due to something being configured wrong on Xp.
>
> "Private" is the right network setting on Vista. "Public" would block
> access by other computers on the network.
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>

Thanks for your reply.
There is no firewall running, as far as I know. The Windows firewall is offf
and the only software running is Spysweeper.
Sorry confused two pieces of information. Ping is giving a 'No reply'
response.
When I try to access the Vista PC from the Xp PC. The Vista PC is listed but
double clicking gives the 'Network not found' error.

Cheers

Peter
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Old 02-03-2008, 09:31 PM
PeterB
 
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Default Re: Vista PC Invisible on my Network



"PeterB" wrote:

One more piece of information.
A friend brought thier Vista Laptop over and after ltering its settings to
suit my network, had no trouble being seen or seeing others on the network,
except my Vista PC !!

Cheers
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Old 02-04-2008, 02:52 AM
Steve Winograd
 
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Default Re: Vista PC Invisible on my Network

On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 11:28:00 -0800, PeterB
<PeterB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> A misconfigured firewall program on the Vista machine (Windows
>> Firewall, Norton, McAfee, PC-cillin, etc) could be causing the
>> problem.
>>
>> I'm not familiar with the "ping" command giving a "Network not found"
>> error. Is that really what it says when you ping Vista from Xp? If
>> so, the error is due to something being configured wrong on Xp.
>>
>> "Private" is the right network setting on Vista. "Public" would block
>> access by other computers on the network.

>
>Thanks for your reply.
>There is no firewall running, as far as I know. The Windows firewall is offf
>and the only software running is Spysweeper.
>Sorry confused two pieces of information. Ping is giving a 'No reply'
>response.
>When I try to access the Vista PC from the Xp PC. The Vista PC is listed but
>double clicking gives the 'Network not found' error.
>
>Cheers
>
>Peter


Is the error message "The network path was not found"? That means
that XP can't find a specific computer or shared folder on the
network. I'm not familiar with an error message that says "Network
not found" under any circumstances.

Is there an antivirus program on the Vista PC? Some antivirus
programs have firewall components that have to be configured.

This web page has tips that might help make the Vista PC accessible:

File and Printer Sharing in Windows Vista
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
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Old 02-04-2008, 06:16 PM
PeterB
 
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Default Re: Vista PC Invisible on my Network


Thanks for your comments, I have now found the problem
It is new PC from Dell and they had loaded McAfee on which I had disabled in
favour of my chosen AV software.
I removed McAfee altogether and lo and behold, the PC was visible.

I think that despite being disabled the firewall was still active.

Cheers
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Old 02-04-2008, 07:16 PM
Steve Winograd
 
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Default Re: Vista PC Invisible on my Network

On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 10:16:03 -0800, PeterB
<PeterB@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>Thanks for your comments, I have now found the problem
>It is new PC from Dell and they had loaded McAfee on which I had disabled in
>favour of my chosen AV software.
>I removed McAfee altogether and lo and behold, the PC was visible.
>
>I think that despite being disabled the firewall was still active.
>
>Cheers


You're welcome. Nice job of finding the problem. Yes, a firewall can
still cause problems when it's disabled. The only way to tell for
sure is to un-install the firewall.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
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