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  #1  
Old 11-02-2009, 02:15 PM
JimL
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Default Router setup inaccessable

xp Pro SP3 updated to about a month ago T42 Thinkpad (Current updates fail)

I got a Linksys BEFSR41 router. Before I could get it connected I had
broadband issues, although I have gotten into the router's browser based
setup a number of times and looked through it. This by way of an HTML file
for the purpose.

When I got connectivity again I didn't have much luck getting the router
into use when I switched the cables. "Repair" in the connection options
would not even run, let alone give me a new number. I went into the setup
again and noticed in the config that the router was set to "invent" its own
number. (I know. Invent is a terrible word.) I turned that off.
Apparently a bad move.

Now when I try to enter the router's setup to change it back through the
same HTML file I get an error saying the internet can't be found. I don't
understand why it's even looking for the internet, because the HTML file is
supposed to be looking for a box just inches down a cat5 cable.

BTW, the router has been reset repeatedly and EVERYTHING is turned off
overnight, so I doubt recycling the router is the problem.

Any miracles, cures or suggestions? Excorcisms?

Thanks

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JimL


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Old 11-02-2009, 02:44 PM
Bernd
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-------- Original-Nachricht --------

> xp Pro SP3 updated to about a month ago T42 Thinkpad (Current updates fail)
>
> I got a Linksys BEFSR41 router. Before I could get it connected I had
> broadband issues, although I have gotten into the router's browser based
> setup a number of times and looked through it. This by way of an HTML file
> for the purpose.
>
> When I got connectivity again I didn't have much luck getting the router
> into use when I switched the cables. "Repair" in the connection options
> would not even run, let alone give me a new number. I went into the setup
> again and noticed in the config that the router was set to "invent" its own
> number. (I know. Invent is a terrible word.) I turned that off.
> Apparently a bad move.
>
> Now when I try to enter the router's setup to change it back through the
> same HTML file I get an error saying the internet can't be found. I don't
> understand why it's even looking for the internet, because the HTML file is
> supposed to be looking for a box just inches down a cat5 cable.
>
> BTW, the router has been reset repeatedly and EVERYTHING is turned off
> overnight, so I doubt recycling the router is the problem.
>
> Any miracles, cures or suggestions? Excorcisms?
>
> Thanks
>



What happens if you try to reach the router by its default IP-Adress
192.168.1.1 ?

Did you use the Setup Wizard from the CD ?

Bernd
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Old 11-02-2009, 02:50 PM
smlunatick
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On Nov 2, 2:15*pm, "JimL" <inva...@invalid.inv> wrote:
> xp Pro SP3 updated to about a month ago T42 Thinkpad (Current updates fail)
>
> I got a Linksys BEFSR41 router. *Before I could get it connected I had
> broadband issues, although I have gotten into the router's browser based
> setup a number of times and looked through it. *This by way of an HTML file
> for the purpose.
>
> When I got connectivity again I didn't have much luck getting the router
> into use when I switched the cables. *"Repair" in the connection options
> would not even run, let alone give me a new number. *I went into the setup
> again and noticed in the config that the router was set to "invent" its own
> number. *(I know. *Invent is a terrible word.) *I turned that off.
> Apparently a bad move.
>
> Now when I try to enter the router's setup to change it back through the
> same HTML file I get an error saying the internet can't be found. *I don't
> understand why it's even looking for the internet, because the HTML file is
> supposed to be looking for a box just inches down a cat5 cable.
>
> BTW, the router has been reset repeatedly and EVERYTHING is turned off
> overnight, so I doubt recycling the router is the problem.
>
> Any miracles, cures or suggestions? *Excorcisms?
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> For most of us the most danger is most politicians.
>
> JimL


Which setup are you talking about? Most routers have their own
internal web pages and are accessible via Internet Explorer. by IP
address assigned to the router. You normally just need to connect a
wire to a LAN port and connect the broadband access to the WAN port.

I do not use any "bundled" install software that comes on the included
CD. These tend to require the Internet to work.

Nowm you meed to be sure that you do a factory "reset" of the router
and make sure that you PC is assigned an IP address with the router's
correct "range." Most Linksys routers use 192.168.1.1 for the router
and assigns out 192.1681.2 - 192.168.1.xxx range.

If you PC does not get a valid IP address, then the Ethernet cable or
the PC's network Ethernet adapter is defective. Cable is easily
replaced. If the network adapter is defective, you will have the
replace it.
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Old 11-02-2009, 05:57 PM
JimL
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"Bernd" <fake@gmx.de> wrote in message
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>
>
> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>
>> xp Pro SP3 updated to about a month ago T42 Thinkpad (Current updates
>> fail)
>>
>> I got a Linksys BEFSR41 router. Before I could get it connected I had
>> broadband issues, although I have gotten into the router's browser based
>> setup a number of times and looked through it. This by way of an HTML
>> file for the purpose.
>>
>> When I got connectivity again I didn't have much luck getting the router
>> into use when I switched the cables. "Repair" in the connection options
>> would not even run, let alone give me a new number. I went into the
>> setup again and noticed in the config that the router was set to "invent"
>> its own number. (I know. Invent is a terrible word.) I turned that
>> off. Apparently a bad move.
>>
>> Now when I try to enter the router's setup to change it back through the
>> same HTML file I get an error saying the internet can't be found. I
>> don't understand why it's even looking for the internet, because the HTML
>> file is supposed to be looking for a box just inches down a cat5 cable.
>>
>> BTW, the router has been reset repeatedly and EVERYTHING is turned off
>> overnight, so I doubt recycling the router is the problem.
>>
>> Any miracles, cures or suggestions? Excorcisms?
>>
>> Thanks
>>

>
>
> What happens if you try to reach the router by its default IP-Adress
> 192.168.1.1 ?


That's what the HTML accesses. That's what gives me the error. I just
entered it directly in Firefox again and got this, same as always.

-------------------------------
Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at 192.168.1.1.

Let's try to troubleshoot the problem:
* Check Internet connection: Internet connection does
NOT seem to be working!
* Try to perform some diagnostic tests:
-------------------------------

> Did you use the Setup Wizard from the CD ?
>
> Bernd


I have no CD.

Thanks

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Old 11-02-2009, 06:03 PM
JimL
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192.168.1.1 did work, so the cable is fine. 192.168.1.1 is what NOW gives
me the error saying it can't find the internet. I have no bundled stuff.

Thanks

"smlunatick" <yveslec@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:19237706-72b7-4748-808e-406886e9be47@k4g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 2, 2:15 pm, "JimL" <inva...@invalid.inv> wrote:
> xp Pro SP3 updated to about a month ago T42 Thinkpad (Current updates
> fail)
>
> I got a Linksys BEFSR41 router. Before I could get it connected I had
> broadband issues, although I have gotten into the router's browser based
> setup a number of times and looked through it. This by way of an HTML file
> for the purpose.
>
> When I got connectivity again I didn't have much luck getting the router
> into use when I switched the cables. "Repair" in the connection options
> would not even run, let alone give me a new number. I went into the setup
> again and noticed in the config that the router was set to "invent" its
> own
> number. (I know. Invent is a terrible word.) I turned that off.
> Apparently a bad move.
>
> Now when I try to enter the router's setup to change it back through the
> same HTML file I get an error saying the internet can't be found. I don't
> understand why it's even looking for the internet, because the HTML file
> is
> supposed to be looking for a box just inches down a cat5 cable.
>
> BTW, the router has been reset repeatedly and EVERYTHING is turned off
> overnight, so I doubt recycling the router is the problem.
>
> Any miracles, cures or suggestions? Excorcisms?
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> For most of us the most danger is most politicians.
>
> JimL


Which setup are you talking about? Most routers have their own
internal web pages and are accessible via Internet Explorer. by IP
address assigned to the router. You normally just need to connect a
wire to a LAN port and connect the broadband access to the WAN port.

I do not use any "bundled" install software that comes on the included
CD. These tend to require the Internet to work.

Nowm you meed to be sure that you do a factory "reset" of the router
and make sure that you PC is assigned an IP address with the router's
correct "range." Most Linksys routers use 192.168.1.1 for the router
and assigns out 192.1681.2 - 192.168.1.xxx range.

If you PC does not get a valid IP address, then the Ethernet cable or
the PC's network Ethernet adapter is defective. Cable is easily
replaced. If the network adapter is defective, you will have the
replace it.



--
For most of us the most danger is most politicians.

JimL


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Old 11-02-2009, 06:28 PM
smlunatick
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On Nov 2, 6:03*pm, "JimL" <inva...@invalid.inv> wrote:
> 192.168.1.1 did work, so the cable is fine. *192.168.1.1 is what NOW gives
> me the error saying it can't find the internet. *I have no bundled stuff.
>
> Thanks
>
> "smlunatick" <yves...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:19237706-72b7-4748-808e-406886e9be47@k4g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 2, 2:15 pm, "JimL" <inva...@invalid.inv> wrote:
>
>
>
> > xp Pro SP3 updated to about a month ago T42 Thinkpad (Current updates
> > fail)

>
> > I got a Linksys BEFSR41 router. Before I could get it connected I had
> > broadband issues, although I have gotten into the router's browser based
> > setup a number of times and looked through it. This by way of an HTML file
> > for the purpose.

>
> > When I got connectivity again I didn't have much luck getting the router
> > into use when I switched the cables. "Repair" in the connection options
> > would not even run, let alone give me a new number. I went into the setup
> > again and noticed in the config that the router was set to "invent" its
> > own
> > number. (I know. Invent is a terrible word.) I turned that off.
> > Apparently a bad move.

>
> > Now when I try to enter the router's setup to change it back through the
> > same HTML file I get an error saying the internet can't be found. I don't
> > understand why it's even looking for the internet, because the HTML file
> > is
> > supposed to be looking for a box just inches down a cat5 cable.

>
> > BTW, the router has been reset repeatedly and EVERYTHING is turned off
> > overnight, so I doubt recycling the router is the problem.

>
> > Any miracles, cures or suggestions? Excorcisms?

>
> > Thanks

>
> > --
> > For most of us the most danger is most politicians.

>
> > JimL

>
> Which setup are you talking about? *Most routers have their own
> internal web pages and are accessible *via Internet Explorer. by IP
> address assigned to the router. *You normally just need to connect a
> wire to a LAN port and connect the broadband access to the WAN port.
>
> I do not use any "bundled" install software that comes on the included
> CD. *These tend to require the Internet to work.
>
> Nowm you meed to be sure that you do a factory "reset" of the router
> and make sure that you PC is assigned an IP address with the router's
> correct "range." *Most Linksys routers use 192.168.1.1 for the router
> and assigns out 192.1681.2 - 192.168.1.xxx range.
>
> If you PC does not get a valid IP address, then the Ethernet cable or
> the PC's network Ethernet adapter is defective. *Cable is easily
> replaced. *If the network adapter is defective, you will have the
> replace it.
>
> --
> For most of us the most danger is most politicians.
>
> JimL


What is the "Default gateway" set to on your "questionable" PC? It
should be the IP address of the wireless router.
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:10 AM
JimL
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"smlunatick" <yveslec@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:650d2a18-976d-4b9f-b88e-77b3867582bf@a31g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 2, 6:03 pm, "JimL" <inva...@invalid.inv> wrote:
> 192.168.1.1 did work, so the cable is fine. 192.168.1.1 is what NOW gives
> me the error saying it can't find the internet. I have no bundled stuff.
>
> Thanks
>
> "smlunatick" <yves...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:19237706-72b7-4748-808e-406886e9be47@k4g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 2, 2:15 pm, "JimL" <inva...@invalid.inv> wrote:
>
>
>
> > xp Pro SP3 updated to about a month ago T42 Thinkpad (Current updates
> > fail)

>
> > I got a Linksys BEFSR41 router. Before I could get it connected I had
> > broadband issues, although I have gotten into the router's browser based
> > setup a number of times and looked through it. This by way of an HTML
> > file
> > for the purpose.

>
> > When I got connectivity again I didn't have much luck getting the router
> > into use when I switched the cables. "Repair" in the connection options
> > would not even run, let alone give me a new number. I went into the
> > setup
> > again and noticed in the config that the router was set to "invent" its
> > own
> > number. (I know. Invent is a terrible word.) I turned that off.
> > Apparently a bad move.

>
> > Now when I try to enter the router's setup to change it back through the
> > same HTML file I get an error saying the internet can't be found. I
> > don't
> > understand why it's even looking for the internet, because the HTML file
> > is
> > supposed to be looking for a box just inches down a cat5 cable.

>
> > BTW, the router has been reset repeatedly and EVERYTHING is turned off
> > overnight, so I doubt recycling the router is the problem.

>
> > Any miracles, cures or suggestions? Excorcisms?

>
> > Thanks

>
> > --
> > For most of us the most danger is most politicians.

>
> > JimL

>
> Which setup are you talking about? Most routers have their own
> internal web pages and are accessible via Internet Explorer. by IP
> address assigned to the router. You normally just need to connect a
> wire to a LAN port and connect the broadband access to the WAN port.
>
> I do not use any "bundled" install software that comes on the included
> CD. These tend to require the Internet to work.
>
> Nowm you meed to be sure that you do a factory "reset" of the router
> and make sure that you PC is assigned an IP address with the router's
> correct "range." Most Linksys routers use 192.168.1.1 for the router
> and assigns out 192.1681.2 - 192.168.1.xxx range.
>
> If you PC does not get a valid IP address, then the Ethernet cable or
> the PC's network Ethernet adapter is defective. Cable is easily
> replaced. If the network adapter is defective, you will have the
> replace it.
>
> --
> For most of us the most danger is most politicians.
>
> JimL


What is the "Default gateway" set to on your "questionable" PC? It
should be the IP address of the wireless router.

- What did I miss? Questionable PC?

- All addressing is set to automatic. None of the Default Gateway
- boxes have contents even if their auto is turned off.


- I have a wired router - befsr41.

BTW, when I swap the computer ethernet cable off the router and onto the
modem it works fine. I'm using it now.

Might it make any difference if I put the cable on a different port on the
router? I try it on #1. Pure hardware problem?

Thanks

--
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JimL


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Old 11-03-2009, 01:00 AM
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"JimL" <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote in message
news:hcnsek$vg9$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> "smlunatick" <yveslec@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:650d2a18-976d-4b9f-b88e-77b3867582bf@a31g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 2, 6:03 pm, "JimL" <inva...@invalid.inv> wrote:
>> 192.168.1.1 did work, so the cable is fine. 192.168.1.1 is what NOW gives
>> me the error saying it can't find the internet. I have no bundled stuff.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> "smlunatick" <yves...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:19237706-72b7-4748-808e-406886e9be47@k4g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>> On Nov 2, 2:15 pm, "JimL" <inva...@invalid.inv> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > xp Pro SP3 updated to about a month ago T42 Thinkpad (Current updates
>> > fail)

>>
>> > I got a Linksys BEFSR41 router. Before I could get it connected I had
>> > broadband issues, although I have gotten into the router's browser
>> > based
>> > setup a number of times and looked through it. This by way of an HTML
>> > file
>> > for the purpose.

>>
>> > When I got connectivity again I didn't have much luck getting the
>> > router
>> > into use when I switched the cables. "Repair" in the connection options
>> > would not even run, let alone give me a new number. I went into the
>> > setup
>> > again and noticed in the config that the router was set to "invent" its
>> > own
>> > number. (I know. Invent is a terrible word.) I turned that off.
>> > Apparently a bad move.

>>
>> > Now when I try to enter the router's setup to change it back through
>> > the
>> > same HTML file I get an error saying the internet can't be found. I
>> > don't
>> > understand why it's even looking for the internet, because the HTML
>> > file
>> > is
>> > supposed to be looking for a box just inches down a cat5 cable.

>>
>> > BTW, the router has been reset repeatedly and EVERYTHING is turned off
>> > overnight, so I doubt recycling the router is the problem.

>>
>> > Any miracles, cures or suggestions? Excorcisms?

>>
>> > Thanks

>>
>> > --
>> > For most of us the most danger is most politicians.

>>
>> > JimL

>>
>> Which setup are you talking about? Most routers have their own
>> internal web pages and are accessible via Internet Explorer. by IP
>> address assigned to the router. You normally just need to connect a
>> wire to a LAN port and connect the broadband access to the WAN port.
>>
>> I do not use any "bundled" install software that comes on the included
>> CD. These tend to require the Internet to work.
>>
>> Nowm you meed to be sure that you do a factory "reset" of the router
>> and make sure that you PC is assigned an IP address with the router's
>> correct "range." Most Linksys routers use 192.168.1.1 for the router
>> and assigns out 192.1681.2 - 192.168.1.xxx range.
>>
>> If you PC does not get a valid IP address, then the Ethernet cable or
>> the PC's network Ethernet adapter is defective. Cable is easily
>> replaced. If the network adapter is defective, you will have the
>> replace it.
>>
>> --
>> For most of us the most danger is most politicians.
>>
>> JimL

>
> What is the "Default gateway" set to on your "questionable" PC? It
> should be the IP address of the wireless router.

I am attaching the results of ipconfig/all on this computer. You will
clearly see "Default gateway" in this list. The IP is that of the router.
If that line does not show the ip address of your router, the router must be
misconfigured.
>
> - What did I miss? Questionable PC?
>
> - All addressing is set to automatic. None of the Default Gateway
> - boxes have contents even if their auto is turned off.
>
>
> - I have a wired router - befsr41.

One input port to connect the cable or dsl modem to the router
Four ports to connect computers
>
> BTW, when I swap the computer ethernet cable off the router and onto the
> modem it works fine. I'm using it now.

So, the modem is working fine.
>
> Might it make any difference if I put the cable on a different port on the
> router? I try it on #1. Pure hardware problem?

Don't do this. One and only one is designed to be connected to the modem.
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> For most of us the most danger is most politicians.
>
> JimL
>
>







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Old 11-12-2009, 02:37 PM
JimL
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"smlunatick" <yveslec@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:650d2a18-976d-4b9f-b88e-77b3867582bf@a31g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 2, 6:03 pm, "JimL" <inva...@invalid.inv> wrote:
> 192.168.1.1 did work, so the cable is fine. 192.168.1.1 is what NOW gives
> me the error saying it can't find the internet. I have no bundled stuff.
>
> Thanks
>
> "smlunatick" <yves...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:19237706-72b7-4748-808e-406886e9be47@k4g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 2, 2:15 pm, "JimL" <inva...@invalid.inv> wrote:
>
>
>
> > xp Pro SP3 updated to about a month ago T42 Thinkpad (Current updates
> > fail)

>
> > I got a Linksys BEFSR41 router. Before I could get it connected I had
> > broadband issues, although I have gotten into the router's browser based
> > setup a number of times and looked through it. This by way of an HTML
> > file
> > for the purpose.

>
> > When I got connectivity again I didn't have much luck getting the router
> > into use when I switched the cables. "Repair" in the connection options
> > would not even run, let alone give me a new number. I went into the
> > setup
> > again and noticed in the config that the router was set to "invent" its
> > own
> > number. (I know. Invent is a terrible word.) I turned that off.
> > Apparently a bad move.

>
> > Now when I try to enter the router's setup to change it back through the
> > same HTML file I get an error saying the internet can't be found. I
> > don't
> > understand why it's even looking for the internet, because the HTML file
> > is
> > supposed to be looking for a box just inches down a cat5 cable.

>
> > BTW, the router has been reset repeatedly and EVERYTHING is turned off
> > overnight, so I doubt recycling the router is the problem.

>
> > Any miracles, cures or suggestions? Excorcisms?

>
> > Thanks

>
> > --
> > For most of us the most danger is most politicians.

>
> > JimL

>
> Which setup are you talking about? Most routers have their own
> internal web pages and are accessible via Internet Explorer. by IP
> address assigned to the router. You normally just need to connect a
> wire to a LAN port and connect the broadband access to the WAN port.
>
> I do not use any "bundled" install software that comes on the included
> CD. These tend to require the Internet to work.
>
> Nowm you meed to be sure that you do a factory "reset" of the router
> and make sure that you PC is assigned an IP address with the router's
> correct "range." Most Linksys routers use 192.168.1.1 for the router
> and assigns out 192.1681.2 - 192.168.1.xxx range.
>
> If you PC does not get a valid IP address, then the Ethernet cable or
> the PC's network Ethernet adapter is defective. Cable is easily
> replaced. If the network adapter is defective, you will have the
> replace it.
>
> --
> For most of us the most danger is most politicians.
>
> JimL


What is the "Default gateway" set to on your "questionable" PC? It
should be the IP address of the wireless router.


What IS a default gateway?

--
For most of us the most danger is most politicians.

JimL


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Old 11-12-2009, 02:41 PM
JimL
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"Bernd" <fake@gmx.de> wrote in message
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>
>
> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>
>> xp Pro SP3 updated to about a month ago T42 Thinkpad (Current updates
>> fail)
>>
>> I got a Linksys BEFSR41 router. Before I could get it connected I had
>> broadband issues, although I have gotten into the router's browser based
>> setup a number of times and looked through it. This by way of an HTML
>> file for the purpose.
>>
>> When I got connectivity again I didn't have much luck getting the router
>> into use when I switched the cables. "Repair" in the connection options
>> would not even run, let alone give me a new number. I went into the
>> setup again and noticed in the config that the router was set to "invent"
>> its own number. (I know. Invent is a terrible word.) I turned that
>> off. Apparently a bad move.
>>
>> Now when I try to enter the router's setup to change it back through the
>> same HTML file I get an error saying the internet can't be found. I
>> don't understand why it's even looking for the internet, because the HTML
>> file is supposed to be looking for a box just inches down a cat5 cable.
>>
>> BTW, the router has been reset repeatedly and EVERYTHING is turned off
>> overnight, so I doubt recycling the router is the problem.
>>
>> Any miracles, cures or suggestions? Excorcisms?
>>
>> Thanks
>>

>
>
> What happens if you try to reach the router by its default IP-Adress
> 192.168.1.1 ?
>
> Did you use the Setup Wizard from the CD ?
>
> Bernd



OK, I now have Setup Wizard.

With 3 different known good cables a port LED lights up, but with each one
Setup Wizard says there is no router. Odd, given that my browser was
talking to it a couple weeks ago.

Thanks

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