Re: Home Network -- 2 XP Machines

Kanari...

Don't give up yet. Here's some things I've run into. Since both can get
out on web... hardware's working!

1. You said TWO XP PCs... did you disable ICF on BOTH PCs? Seems whenever
you try to run the Network Wizard... it automatically turns ICF on.

2. I've two new XP Home PCs... and one was delivered with Norton
Firewall... remove it!

3. Earlier this year, a friend had a similar problem... it turned out he
had loaded McAfee... which included firewall too. Turn that firewall off.

4. XP builds "SharedDocs" folders on each XP system but... if you share
"something" of your own choosing... re-check ICF option again after doing
that... per PC.

5. Finally, of course, both PCs should have the same "workgroup" name... or
you'll need to look for them on "entire network".

That's all I can remember right now...
Steve


"Kanari" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9b6b01c405c9$e009f1d0$a101280a@phx.gbl...
> I officially give up....I disabled the firewall, I was
> always 'connecting through the resedential gateway', I
> did the protocol and the netbios, it didn't say peer-to-
> peer, it said hybrid whatever that was. As for changing
> my registry key I didn't understand most of it and I
> don't feel comfertable with that so I think I will have
> someone come out and do this for me. At one point I was
> connected to a network for a few hours with a friend of
> mine and it took him forever and a day to get it to work.
> We will see. I need a proffesional here doing this.
>
> thank you agian for all of your help.
> Kanari
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >In article <696101c405c0$90093a00
> $a601280a@phx.gbl>, "Kanari"
> ><anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >>I guess there must be something up with one of the
> >>computers becuase even though we Are connected to
> through
> >>the router and i've run the wizard on both computers
> >>putting the same workgroup name I still can't get them
> to
> >>see each other in the workgroup.Please do you have any
> >>sugguestions? I've run the wizard a half dozen times
> and
> >>no matter what I do it won't work. It is probably
> >>something simple, but i can't figure it out. -_-
> >
> >Did you tell the Wizard that the computers connect to
> the Internet
> >through a "residential gateway", as I suggested?
> >
> >Here are some other troubleshooting tips:
> >
> >1. Permanently disable XP's built-in Internet Connection
> Firewall on
> >local area network connections -- it's for use only on a
> direct modem
> >connection to the Internet. Disable and un-install all
> other
> >firewalls while troubleshooting. Details here:
> >
> >Windows XP Internet Connection Firewall
> >http://www.practicallynetworked.com/.../xp/ic_firewal
> l.htm
> >
> >2. Use only one protocol for File and Printer Sharing.
> If the network
> >needs more than one protocol, unbind File and Printer
> Sharing from all
> >but one of them. Details here:
> >
> >Windows XP Network Protocols
> >http://www.practicallynetworked.com/.../xp/network_pr
> otocols.htm
> >
> >3. Make sure that NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on all
> computers.
> >Details here:
> >
> >Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP (NetBT)
> >http://www.practicallynetworked.com/.../troubleshoot/
> netbt.htm
> >
> >4. Run "ipconfig /all" on XP and look at the "Node Type"
> at the
> >beginning of the output. If it says "Peer-to-Peer"
> (which should
> >actually be "Point-to-Point") that's the problem. It
> means that the
> >computer only uses a WINS server, which isn't available
> on a
> >peer-to-peer network for NetBIOS name resolution.
> >
> >If that's the case, run the registry editor, open this
> key:
> >
> > HLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parame ters
> >
> >and delete these values if they're present:
> >
> > NodeType
> > DhcpNodeType
> >
> >Reboot, then try network access again.
> >
> >If that doesn't fix it, open that registry key again,
> create a DWORD
> >value called "NodeType", and set it to 1 for "Broadcast"
> or 4 for
> >"Mixed".
> >
> >For details, see these Microsoft Knowledge Base articles:
> >
> >Default Node Type for Microsoft Clients
> >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
> us;160177
> >
> >TCP/IP and NBT Configuration Parameters for Windows XP
> >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
> us;314053
> >--
> >Best Wishes,
> >Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
> >
> >Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news
> group
> >for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer
> questions
> >addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
> >
> >Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
> >http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
> >.
> >

Firewalls are not a problem. Put your IP range in the trusted zone:
I.E. If your router is 192.168.1.1 then the trusted range would be
192.168.1.0 to 192.168.1.255
The only time I have had problems is when I over-look the firewall on new
installations. I done this with both NIS and Zone Alarm but haven't uses
McAfee. This way your PC's are fully protected for the internet (traffic
originating from your PC to the internet still relies on other firewall
rules).
"Steve" <smking139@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:#HW9LPGLEHA.892@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Kanari...
>
> Don't give up yet. Here's some things I've run into. Since both can get
> out on web... hardware's working!
>
> 1. You said TWO XP PCs... did you disable ICF on BOTH PCs? Seems
whenever
> you try to run the Network Wizard... it automatically turns ICF on.
>
> 2. I've two new XP Home PCs... and one was delivered with Norton
> Firewall... remove it!
>
> 3. Earlier this year, a friend had a similar problem... it turned out he
> had loaded McAfee... which included firewall too. Turn that firewall off.
>
> 4. XP builds "SharedDocs" folders on each XP system but... if you share
> "something" of your own choosing... re-check ICF option again after doing
> that... per PC.
>
> 5. Finally, of course, both PCs should have the same "workgroup" name...
or
> you'll need to look for them on "entire network".
>
> That's all I can remember right now...
> Steve
>
>
> "Kanari" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:9b6b01c405c9$e009f1d0$a101280a@phx.gbl...
> > I officially give up....I disabled the firewall, I was
> > always 'connecting through the resedential gateway', I
> > did the protocol and the netbios, it didn't say peer-to-
> > peer, it said hybrid whatever that was. As for changing
> > my registry key I didn't understand most of it and I
> > don't feel comfertable with that so I think I will have
> > someone come out and do this for me. At one point I was
> > connected to a network for a few hours with a friend of
> > mine and it took him forever and a day to get it to work.
> > We will see. I need a proffesional here doing this.
> >
> > thank you agian for all of your help.
> > Kanari
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >In article <696101c405c0$90093a00
> > $a601280a@phx.gbl>, "Kanari"
> > ><anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > >>I guess there must be something up with one of the
> > >>computers becuase even though we Are connected to
> > through
> > >>the router and i've run the wizard on both computers
> > >>putting the same workgroup name I still can't get them
> > to
> > >>see each other in the workgroup.Please do you have any
> > >>sugguestions? I've run the wizard a half dozen times
> > and
> > >>no matter what I do it won't work. It is probably
> > >>something simple, but i can't figure it out. -_-
> > >
> > >Did you tell the Wizard that the computers connect to
> > the Internet
> > >through a "residential gateway", as I suggested?
> > >
> > >Here are some other troubleshooting tips:
> > >
> > >1. Permanently disable XP's built-in Internet Connection
> > Firewall on
> > >local area network connections -- it's for use only on a
> > direct modem
> > >connection to the Internet. Disable and un-install all
> > other
> > >firewalls while troubleshooting. Details here:
> > >
> > >Windows XP Internet Connection Firewall
> > >http://www.practicallynetworked.com/.../xp/ic_firewal
> > l.htm
> > >
> > >2. Use only one protocol for File and Printer Sharing.
> > If the network
> > >needs more than one protocol, unbind File and Printer
> > Sharing from all
> > >but one of them. Details here:
> > >
> > >Windows XP Network Protocols
> > >http://www.practicallynetworked.com/.../xp/network_pr
> > otocols.htm
> > >
> > >3. Make sure that NetBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on all
> > computers.
> > >Details here:
> > >
> > >Enable NetBIOS Over TCP/IP (NetBT)
> > >http://www.practicallynetworked.com/.../troubleshoot/
> > netbt.htm
> > >
> > >4. Run "ipconfig /all" on XP and look at the "Node Type"
> > at the
> > >beginning of the output. If it says "Peer-to-Peer"
> > (which should
> > >actually be "Point-to-Point") that's the problem. It
> > means that the
> > >computer only uses a WINS server, which isn't available
> > on a
> > >peer-to-peer network for NetBIOS name resolution.
> > >
> > >If that's the case, run the registry editor, open this
> > key:
> > >
> > > HLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Netbt\Parame ters
> > >
> > >and delete these values if they're present:
> > >
> > > NodeType
> > > DhcpNodeType
> > >
> > >Reboot, then try network access again.
> > >
> > >If that doesn't fix it, open that registry key again,
> > create a DWORD
> > >value called "NodeType", and set it to 1 for "Broadcast"
> > or 4 for
> > >"Mixed".
> > >
> > >For details, see these Microsoft Knowledge Base articles:
> > >
> > >Default Node Type for Microsoft Clients
> > >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
> > us;160177
> > >
> > >TCP/IP and NBT Configuration Parameters for Windows XP
> > >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-
> > us;314053
> > >--
> > >Best Wishes,
> > >Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
> > >
> > >Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news
> > group
> > >for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer
> > questions
> > >addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
> > >
> > >Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
> > >http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
> > >.
> > >
>
>