Re: Auto IP Detect Not Working

Tell me if you are actually using a hub or router to connect both computers?
A hub will not let you connect more than one computer and since the other
connected first, it is going to get the connection no matter how many times
you reinstall XP without removing the other computer from the configuration
(and even then, cable modems are notorious for keeping up with MAC addresses
so it blocks other computers from connecting).

You can buy the router or use ICS (Internet Connection Sharing). I would
highly recommend purchasing a router for firewall protection with your cable
modem.

"Frank P" <FrankP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3213024E-9637-4737-BA9E-C75E05BEA837@microsoft.com...
> i'm grasping at straws...last shot...are there any viruses going around
that may be doing this sort of thing? since a did a fresh reinstall
without an AV until I downloaded the patches and updates online, that did
leave my PC open for a bit...just a last gasp of an effort to try to figure
this thing out.
>
> thanks everyone for helping
>
> "Frank P" wrote:
>
> > Help would be fantastic. My PC had loads of problems, so i did a total
format and reinstall of XP Pro. PC started up, and I downloaded all the
patches (internet ok at this point). Next day, I start up and my internet
is gone. everything else is ok, just the internet is shot for some reason.
> >
> > I am using a cable modem, adn we have 2 pcs on the hub and we have had
no issues before. I boot up and the settings are on autodetect for IP and
for DNS, so I should not have to enter anything. LAN properties has
'Invalid IP Address' and zeros for the rest of the options.
> >
> > I click on 'Repair the Connection' and I get an IP in the 169....range
which is invalid for Internet access and a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0.
> >
> > The Nic fires up and works ok. i've tried 3 different cards, one of
which is brand new.
> > Cannot ping anything (http's or IP's)
> > Cannot access webpages through IE
> >
> > Any help would be pretty sweet...thanks

The only way you will be able to connect multiple computers is using the
router. That will fix all your problems. Let me know how it works.

"Frank P" <FrankP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:870AA66A-617E-43A0-9E72-75A91016FDD5@microsoft.com...
> Using a Hub (Hawking PN500TB MiniHub) to connect both PCs to one cable
modem connection. i agree that a router is more effective; we've just been
using this hub for a while now.
>
>
> "Karl Burrows" wrote:
>
> > Tell me if you are actually using a hub or router to connect both
computers?
> > A hub will not let you connect more than one computer and since the
other
> > connected first, it is going to get the connection no matter how many
times
> > you reinstall XP without removing the other computer from the
configuration
> > (and even then, cable modems are notorious for keeping up with MAC
addresses
> > so it blocks other computers from connecting).
> >
> > You can buy the router or use ICS (Internet Connection Sharing). I
would
> > highly recommend purchasing a router for firewall protection with your
cable
> > modem.
> >
> > "Frank P" <FrankP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:3213024E-9637-4737-BA9E-C75E05BEA837@microsoft.com...
> > > i'm grasping at straws...last shot...are there any viruses going
around
> > that may be doing this sort of thing? since a did a fresh reinstall
> > without an AV until I downloaded the patches and updates online, that
did
> > leave my PC open for a bit...just a last gasp of an effort to try to
figure
> > this thing out.
> > >
> > > thanks everyone for helping
> > >
> > > "Frank P" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Help would be fantastic. My PC had loads of problems, so i did a
total
> > format and reinstall of XP Pro. PC started up, and I downloaded all the
> > patches (internet ok at this point). Next day, I start up and my
internet
> > is gone. everything else is ok, just the internet is shot for some
reason.
> > > >
> > > > I am using a cable modem, adn we have 2 pcs on the hub and we have
had
> > no issues before. I boot up and the settings are on autodetect for IP
and
> > for DNS, so I should not have to enter anything. LAN properties has
> > 'Invalid IP Address' and zeros for the rest of the options.
> > > >
> > > > I click on 'Repair the Connection' and I get an IP in the
169....range
> > which is invalid for Internet access and a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0.
> > > >
> > > > The Nic fires up and works ok. i've tried 3 different cards, one of
> > which is brand new.
> > > > Cannot ping anything (http's or IP's)
> > > > Cannot access webpages through IE
> > > >
> > > > Any help would be pretty sweet...thanks
> >
> >
> >

It may be that your IP recently changed to allow only one P/C to connect
without an extra fee. This might explain your problem. A typical router can
emulate a MAC address of a P/C such that all P/Cs connected appear to be the
same MAC address as set in the router. As to a router based firewall-- Most
home or small business routers provide a "NAT" firewall. This is basic
protection only. With such a router, you will also usually need to run
something like Add Aware, an antivirus program, and some sort of antispy
software.

"Frank P" <FrankP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:870AA66A-617E-43A0-9E72-75A91016FDD5@microsoft.com...
> Using a Hub (Hawking PN500TB MiniHub) to connect both PCs to one cable
> modem connection. i agree that a router is more effective; we've just been
> using this hub for a while now.
>
>
> "Karl Burrows" wrote:
>
>> Tell me if you are actually using a hub or router to connect both
>> computers?
>> A hub will not let you connect more than one computer and since the other
>> connected first, it is going to get the connection no matter how many
>> times
>> you reinstall XP without removing the other computer from the
>> configuration
>> (and even then, cable modems are notorious for keeping up with MAC
>> addresses
>> so it blocks other computers from connecting).
>>
>> You can buy the router or use ICS (Internet Connection Sharing). I would
>> highly recommend purchasing a router for firewall protection with your
>> cable
>> modem.
>>
>> "Frank P" <FrankP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:3213024E-9637-4737-BA9E-C75E05BEA837@microsoft.com...
>> > i'm grasping at straws...last shot...are there any viruses going around
>> that may be doing this sort of thing? since a did a fresh reinstall
>> without an AV until I downloaded the patches and updates online, that did
>> leave my PC open for a bit...just a last gasp of an effort to try to
>> figure
>> this thing out.
>> >
>> > thanks everyone for helping
>> >
>> > "Frank P" wrote:
>> >
>> > > Help would be fantastic. My PC had loads of problems, so i did a
>> > > total
>> format and reinstall of XP Pro. PC started up, and I downloaded all the
>> patches (internet ok at this point). Next day, I start up and my
>> internet
>> is gone. everything else is ok, just the internet is shot for some
>> reason.
>> > >
>> > > I am using a cable modem, adn we have 2 pcs on the hub and we have
>> > > had
>> no issues before. I boot up and the settings are on autodetect for IP
>> and
>> for DNS, so I should not have to enter anything. LAN properties has
>> 'Invalid IP Address' and zeros for the rest of the options.
>> > >
>> > > I click on 'Repair the Connection' and I get an IP in the
>> > > 169....range
>> which is invalid for Internet access and a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0.
>> > >
>> > > The Nic fires up and works ok. i've tried 3 different cards, one of
>> which is brand new.
>> > > Cannot ping anything (http's or IP's)
>> > > Cannot access webpages through IE
>> > >
>> > > Any help would be pretty sweet...thanks
>>
>>
>>


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He doesn't have a router, so this doesn't apply.

"Chuck" <cdkuder@msn.com> wrote in message
news:OVmCixWYEHA.1224@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> It may be that your IP recently changed to allow only one P/C to connect
> without an extra fee. This might explain your problem. A typical router
can
> emulate a MAC address of a P/C such that all P/Cs connected appear to be
the
> same MAC address as set in the router. As to a router based firewall--
Most
> home or small business routers provide a "NAT" firewall. This is basic
> protection only. With such a router, you will also usually need to run
> something like Add Aware, an antivirus program, and some sort of antispy
> software.
>
> "Frank P" <FrankP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:870AA66A-617E-43A0-9E72-75A91016FDD5@microsoft.com...
> > Using a Hub (Hawking PN500TB MiniHub) to connect both PCs to one cable
> > modem connection. i agree that a router is more effective; we've just
been
> > using this hub for a while now.
> >
> >
> > "Karl Burrows" wrote:
> >
> >> Tell me if you are actually using a hub or router to connect both
> >> computers?
> >> A hub will not let you connect more than one computer and since the
other
> >> connected first, it is going to get the connection no matter how many
> >> times
> >> you reinstall XP without removing the other computer from the
> >> configuration
> >> (and even then, cable modems are notorious for keeping up with MAC
> >> addresses
> >> so it blocks other computers from connecting).
> >>
> >> You can buy the router or use ICS (Internet Connection Sharing). I
would
> >> highly recommend purchasing a router for firewall protection with your
> >> cable
> >> modem.
> >>
> >> "Frank P" <FrankP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:3213024E-9637-4737-BA9E-C75E05BEA837@microsoft.com...
> >> > i'm grasping at straws...last shot...are there any viruses going
around
> >> that may be doing this sort of thing? since a did a fresh reinstall
> >> without an AV until I downloaded the patches and updates online, that
did
> >> leave my PC open for a bit...just a last gasp of an effort to try to
> >> figure
> >> this thing out.
> >> >
> >> > thanks everyone for helping
> >> >
> >> > "Frank P" wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Help would be fantastic. My PC had loads of problems, so i did a
> >> > > total
> >> format and reinstall of XP Pro. PC started up, and I downloaded all the
> >> patches (internet ok at this point). Next day, I start up and my
> >> internet
> >> is gone. everything else is ok, just the internet is shot for some
> >> reason.
> >> > >
> >> > > I am using a cable modem, adn we have 2 pcs on the hub and we have
> >> > > had
> >> no issues before. I boot up and the settings are on autodetect for IP
> >> and
> >> for DNS, so I should not have to enter anything. LAN properties has
> >> 'Invalid IP Address' and zeros for the rest of the options.
> >> > >
> >> > > I click on 'Repair the Connection' and I get an IP in the
> >> > > 169....range
> >> which is invalid for Internet access and a subnet mask of
255.255.255.0.
> >> > >
> >> > > The Nic fires up and works ok. i've tried 3 different cards, one
of
> >> which is brand new.
> >> > > Cannot ping anything (http's or IP's)
> >> > > Cannot access webpages through IE
> >> > >
> >> > > Any help would be pretty sweet...thanks
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
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