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  #1  
Old 04-27-2004, 03:15 PM
Elizabeth Candanedo
 
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Default Networking XP Pro to a Downlevel NT4 domain

Hi all. I know there is a way to do this. I have seen it done before and I
believe that it is as simple as checking a box off in one of the system
policies, but I am unable to figure out where this checkbox is. The problem
is that the XP Pro PC does not recognize the NT4 domain and I need to get it
to recognize the domain controller. I believe it is relying solely on DNS
and not looking for the NetBIOS name.

Does anyone know where this magical checkbox is? I would greatly appreciate
it.

Thanks in advance for your help.


--
Elizabeth Candanedo, MCSE


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Old 04-27-2004, 03:39 PM
allan grossman [mvp]
 
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Default Networking XP Pro to a Downlevel NT4 domain

Hi, Elizabeth -

An XP Professional machine should hook in to an NT4
domain without checking any boxes at all ;-)

Let's get the simple stuff out of the way first. We know
the NT4 DC must be running SP6a, right? Also, a domain
account for the machine itself is required. I know this
is simple stuff, but if those two prerequisites are met
the XP box ought to connect with no problems.

Windows XP defaults to the NetBIOS setting of the DHCP
server. If the machine has a static IP then NetBIOS over
TCP-IP is enabled by default. If the DHCP server doesn't
provide this information you might need to enable NetBIOS
over TCP-IP. You'll find it in the properties (advanced)
of the instance of TCP-IP that's bound to the NIC.

Hope this helps -

>-----Original Message-----
>Hi all. I know there is a way to do this. I have seen

it done before and I
>believe that it is as simple as checking a box off in

one of the system
>policies, but I am unable to figure out where this

checkbox is. The problem
>is that the XP Pro PC does not recognize the NT4 domain

and I need to get it
>to recognize the domain controller. I believe it is

relying solely on DNS
>and not looking for the NetBIOS name.
>
>Does anyone know where this magical checkbox is? I

would greatly appreciate
>it.
>
>Thanks in advance for your help.
>
>
>--
>Elizabeth Candanedo, MCSE
>
>
>.
>

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Old 04-27-2004, 04:02 PM
Elizabeth Candanedo
 
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Default Re: Networking XP Pro to a Downlevel NT4 domain

Thanks for the input. I enabled NetBIOS over TCP/IP and now I'm getting a
different message. (At least the XP workstation is now finding the NT4
PDC.) I am now getting an access denied message.

We are not running DCHP here. The NT4 box, as far as I know, is running
SP4. I know that XP boxes can hook to this domain because there are three
XP boxes hooked in already. Now we just got a new laptop in loaded with XP
Pro and I was tasked with joining it to the domain. I'm dealing with old
technology here... I'm an MCSE on 2000 not NT4. How does one create a
machine account on the PDC?

Could you lend me more more insight on this issue? Thanks again.


--
Elizabeth Candanedo, MCSE
"allan grossman [mvp]" <allan_grossman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4cbf01c42c65$645ad550$a601280a@phx.gbl...
> Hi, Elizabeth -
>
> An XP Professional machine should hook in to an NT4
> domain without checking any boxes at all ;-)
>
> Let's get the simple stuff out of the way first. We know
> the NT4 DC must be running SP6a, right? Also, a domain
> account for the machine itself is required. I know this
> is simple stuff, but if those two prerequisites are met
> the XP box ought to connect with no problems.
>
> Windows XP defaults to the NetBIOS setting of the DHCP
> server. If the machine has a static IP then NetBIOS over
> TCP-IP is enabled by default. If the DHCP server doesn't
> provide this information you might need to enable NetBIOS
> over TCP-IP. You'll find it in the properties (advanced)
> of the instance of TCP-IP that's bound to the NIC.
>
> Hope this helps -
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Hi all. I know there is a way to do this. I have seen

> it done before and I
> >believe that it is as simple as checking a box off in

> one of the system
> >policies, but I am unable to figure out where this

> checkbox is. The problem
> >is that the XP Pro PC does not recognize the NT4 domain

> and I need to get it
> >to recognize the domain controller. I believe it is

> relying solely on DNS
> >and not looking for the NetBIOS name.
> >
> >Does anyone know where this magical checkbox is? I

> would greatly appreciate
> >it.
> >
> >Thanks in advance for your help.
> >
> >
> >--
> >Elizabeth Candanedo, MCSE
> >
> >
> >.
> >



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Old 04-27-2004, 04:22 PM
GTS
 
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Default Re: Networking XP Pro to a Downlevel NT4 domain

Perhaps this will help http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=318266

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"Elizabeth Candanedo" <ecandanedo@mayogilligan.com> wrote in message
news:uT3kDHGLEHA.1120@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Hi all. I know there is a way to do this. I have seen it done before and

I
> believe that it is as simple as checking a box off in one of the system
> policies, but I am unable to figure out where this checkbox is. The

problem
> is that the XP Pro PC does not recognize the NT4 domain and I need to get

it
> to recognize the domain controller. I believe it is relying solely on DNS
> and not looking for the NetBIOS name.
>
> Does anyone know where this magical checkbox is? I would greatly

appreciate
> it.
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>
>
> --
> Elizabeth Candanedo, MCSE
>
>



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Old 04-27-2004, 04:44 PM
Elizabeth Candanedo
 
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Default Re: Networking XP Pro to a Downlevel NT4 domain

Thanks for the info, GTS. I looked at it and disabled the item it told me
to. I am still getting an access denied. There's got to be something else.
But what?


--
Elizabeth Candanedo, MCSE


"GTS" <x> wrote in message news:eAT3rtGLEHA.3056@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Perhaps this will help http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=318266
>
> --
>
> "Elizabeth Candanedo" <ecandanedo@mayogilligan.com> wrote in message
> news:uT3kDHGLEHA.1120@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > Hi all. I know there is a way to do this. I have seen it done before

and
> I
> > believe that it is as simple as checking a box off in one of the system
> > policies, but I am unable to figure out where this checkbox is. The

> problem
> > is that the XP Pro PC does not recognize the NT4 domain and I need to

get
> it
> > to recognize the domain controller. I believe it is relying solely on

DNS
> > and not looking for the NetBIOS name.
> >
> > Does anyone know where this magical checkbox is? I would greatly

> appreciate
> > it.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your help.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Elizabeth Candanedo, MCSE
> >
> >

>
>



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  #6  
Old 04-27-2004, 04:57 PM
allan grossman [mvp]
 
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Default Re: Networking XP Pro to a Downlevel NT4 domain

Hi again -

There are two ways to create a domain account on an NT4
domain - the first is to run Server Manager either from
the server or the client (it's on the server CD if you
decide to install it on the client) and the other is to
create the domain account from the workstation. Let's
try that one first ;-)

On the XP machine if you right-click My Computer and
select Properties --> Computer Name you'll see where to
join the computer to a domain. Since you now have
connectivity to the DC it should work just fine. When
you try to join the domain you'll be prompted for the
username and password of someone authorized to add
computers to the domain - if you're a domain admin all
you do is put your domain admin username and password in
the box and away you go ;-)

Holler if you need more help -

>-----Original Message-----
>Thanks for the input. I enabled NetBIOS over TCP/IP and

now I'm getting a
>different message. (At least the XP workstation is now

finding the NT4
>PDC.) I am now getting an access denied message.
>
>We are not running DCHP here. The NT4 box, as far as I

know, is running
>SP4. I know that XP boxes can hook to this domain

because there are three
>XP boxes hooked in already. Now we just got a new

laptop in loaded with XP
>Pro and I was tasked with joining it to the domain. I'm

dealing with old
>technology here... I'm an MCSE on 2000 not NT4. How

does one create a
>machine account on the PDC?
>
>Could you lend me more more insight on this issue?

Thanks again.

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Old 04-27-2004, 05:39 PM
Elizabeth Candanedo
 
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Default Re: Networking XP Pro to a Downlevel NT4 domain

Thank you, Allan!

Sometimes we just can't see the forest for the trees even when the answer is
right smack under our noses. I couldn't join the pc because my account info
did not have domain admin permissions... When I flagged down someone who
did to enter her credentials, it worked.

Thank you (and GTS) again. The answer to the mystery was a combination of
things and it has finally been solved.


--
Elizabeth Candanedo, MCSE


"allan grossman [mvp]" <allan_grossman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4f1001c42c70$5902c6d0$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> Hi again -
>
> There are two ways to create a domain account on an NT4
> domain - the first is to run Server Manager either from
> the server or the client (it's on the server CD if you
> decide to install it on the client) and the other is to
> create the domain account from the workstation. Let's
> try that one first ;-)
>
> On the XP machine if you right-click My Computer and
> select Properties --> Computer Name you'll see where to
> join the computer to a domain. Since you now have
> connectivity to the DC it should work just fine. When
> you try to join the domain you'll be prompted for the
> username and password of someone authorized to add
> computers to the domain - if you're a domain admin all
> you do is put your domain admin username and password in
> the box and away you go ;-)
>
> Holler if you need more help -
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Thanks for the input. I enabled NetBIOS over TCP/IP and

> now I'm getting a
> >different message. (At least the XP workstation is now

> finding the NT4
> >PDC.) I am now getting an access denied message.
> >
> >We are not running DCHP here. The NT4 box, as far as I

> know, is running
> >SP4. I know that XP boxes can hook to this domain

> because there are three
> >XP boxes hooked in already. Now we just got a new

> laptop in loaded with XP
> >Pro and I was tasked with joining it to the domain. I'm

> dealing with old
> >technology here... I'm an MCSE on 2000 not NT4. How

> does one create a
> >machine account on the PDC?
> >
> >Could you lend me more more insight on this issue?

> Thanks again.
>



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