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Old 06-25-2004, 02:50 PM
Brian
 
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Default LAN problem with XP Home

I have 2 computers running XP Home sharing a DSL
connection through a Belkin 4 Port Router. Both
computers can access the Internet, but they cannot access
eachother for file sharing. Details:

-ICF is disabled on both computers.
-NETBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on both.
-The computers have the same Workgroup name.
-Both computers can ping themselves by IP address and by
name. Both can ping the other by IP address, but NOT by
name.
-In Network Places, each computer can see itself but not
the other computer.

Thanks for your help.

Brian
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Old 06-25-2004, 03:35 PM
Luke
 
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Default LAN problem with XP Home

Hi,
Can you just check whether the LAN connections on the
computers are bridged (on both computers);
1. Open network connections
2. Check whether there is a network connection that is
shown as a bridge icon.
3. If there is then disable it and then delete it.
If that doesn't work then please try the following:
Check to see if Simple File Sharing (Control Panel -
Folder Options - View - Advanced settings) is enabled or
disabled.
For XP Home with Simple File Sharing enabled, make sure
that the Guest account is enabled, thru Local User
Manager (Start - Run - "lusrmgr.msc"), on each computer.
Do any of the computers have a software firewall (ICF or
third party)? If so, you need to configure them for file
sharing, by opening ports TCP 139, 445 and UDP 137, 138,
445, and / or by identifying the other computers as
present in the Local (Trusted) zone. Firewall
configurations are a very common cause of (network)
browser, and file sharing, problems.
Let me know if the problem still exists, Luke.
>-----Original Message-----
>I have 2 computers running XP Home sharing a DSL
>connection through a Belkin 4 Port Router. Both
>computers can access the Internet, but they cannot

access
>eachother for file sharing. Details:
>
>-ICF is disabled on both computers.
>-NETBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on both.
>-The computers have the same Workgroup name.
>-Both computers can ping themselves by IP address and by
>name. Both can ping the other by IP address, but NOT by
>name.
>-In Network Places, each computer can see itself but not
>the other computer.
>
>Thanks for your help.
>
>Brian
>.
>

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Old 06-25-2004, 03:45 PM
Ron Lowe
 
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Default Re: LAN problem with XP Home

"Brian" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2175301c45abb$60cc6a50$a501280a@phx.gbl...
> I have 2 computers running XP Home sharing a DSL
> connection through a Belkin 4 Port Router. Both
> computers can access the Internet, but they cannot access
> eachother for file sharing. Details:
>
> -ICF is disabled on both computers.
> -NETBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on both.
> -The computers have the same Workgroup name.
> -Both computers can ping themselves by IP address and by
> name. Both can ping the other by IP address, but NOT by
> name.
> -In Network Places, each computer can see itself but not
> the other computer.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Brian



On each machine, go to a command prompt and issue the command:

ipconfig /all

Report the Node Type on each machine.

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Best Regards,
Ron Lowe
MS-MVP Windows Networking


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Old 06-25-2004, 04:05 PM
anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com
 
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Default Re: LAN problem with XP Home

On one computer, Node Type is "Hybrid." On the other,
Node Type is "Unknown." What does this mean?



>-----Original Message-----
>"Brian" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

message
>news:2175301c45abb$60cc6a50$a501280a@phx.gbl...
>> I have 2 computers running XP Home sharing a DSL
>> connection through a Belkin 4 Port Router. Both
>> computers can access the Internet, but they cannot

access
>> eachother for file sharing. Details:
>>
>> -ICF is disabled on both computers.
>> -NETBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on both.
>> -The computers have the same Workgroup name.
>> -Both computers can ping themselves by IP address and

by
>> name. Both can ping the other by IP address, but NOT

by
>> name.
>> -In Network Places, each computer can see itself but

not
>> the other computer.
>>
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>> Brian

>
>
>On each machine, go to a command prompt and issue the

command:
>
> ipconfig /all
>
>Report the Node Type on each machine.
>
>--
>Best Regards,
>Ron Lowe
>MS-MVP Windows Networking
>
>
>.
>

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Old 06-25-2004, 04:09 PM
anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com
 
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Default LAN problem with XP Home

Hi Luke,

No network connections are bridged.

When I go to check whether Simple File Sharing is
enabled, I don't see an option for it. I went to Control
Panel > Folder Options > View, and looked under Advanced
Settings. There's no checkbox for Simple File Sharing.

Guest Account is enabled on both computers.

ICF is disabled on both computers, and neither is using a
third-party firewall.

Any thoughts?

-Brian
>-----Original Message-----
>Hi,
>Can you just check whether the LAN connections on the
>computers are bridged (on both computers);
>1. Open network connections
>2. Check whether there is a network connection that is
>shown as a bridge icon.
>3. If there is then disable it and then delete it.
>If that doesn't work then please try the following:
>Check to see if Simple File Sharing (Control Panel -
>Folder Options - View - Advanced settings) is enabled or
>disabled.
>For XP Home with Simple File Sharing enabled, make sure
>that the Guest account is enabled, thru Local User
>Manager (Start - Run - "lusrmgr.msc"), on each computer.
>Do any of the computers have a software firewall (ICF or
>third party)? If so, you need to configure them for file
>sharing, by opening ports TCP 139, 445 and UDP 137, 138,
>445, and / or by identifying the other computers as
>present in the Local (Trusted) zone. Firewall
>configurations are a very common cause of (network)
>browser, and file sharing, problems.
>Let me know if the problem still exists, Luke.
>>-----Original Message-----
>>I have 2 computers running XP Home sharing a DSL
>>connection through a Belkin 4 Port Router. Both
>>computers can access the Internet, but they cannot

>access
>>eachother for file sharing. Details:
>>
>>-ICF is disabled on both computers.
>>-NETBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on both.
>>-The computers have the same Workgroup name.
>>-Both computers can ping themselves by IP address and

by
>>name. Both can ping the other by IP address, but NOT

by
>>name.
>>-In Network Places, each computer can see itself but

not
>>the other computer.
>>
>>Thanks for your help.
>>
>>Brian
>>.
>>

>.
>

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  #6  
Old 06-25-2004, 04:26 PM
Scott M.
 
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Default Re: LAN problem with XP Home

In the Network Connection properties, is File and Printer Sharing installed?
If not, install it.


"Brian" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2175301c45abb$60cc6a50$a501280a@phx.gbl...
> I have 2 computers running XP Home sharing a DSL
> connection through a Belkin 4 Port Router. Both
> computers can access the Internet, but they cannot access
> eachother for file sharing. Details:
>
> -ICF is disabled on both computers.
> -NETBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on both.
> -The computers have the same Workgroup name.
> -Both computers can ping themselves by IP address and by
> name. Both can ping the other by IP address, but NOT by
> name.
> -In Network Places, each computer can see itself but not
> the other computer.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Brian



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Old 06-25-2004, 04:26 PM
Brian
 
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Default LAN problem with XP Home

Hi Luke,

No network connections are bridged.

When I go to check whether Simple File Sharing is
enabled, I don't see an option for it. I went to Control
Panel > Folder Options > View, and looked under Advanced
Settings. There's no checkbox for Simple File Sharing.

Guest Account is enabled on both computers.

ICF is disabled on both computers, and neither is using a
third-party firewall.

Any thoughts?

-Brian

>-----Original Message-----
>Hi,
>Can you just check whether the LAN connections on the
>computers are bridged (on both computers);
>1. Open network connections
>2. Check whether there is a network connection that is
>shown as a bridge icon.
>3. If there is then disable it and then delete it.
>If that doesn't work then please try the following:
>Check to see if Simple File Sharing (Control Panel -
>Folder Options - View - Advanced settings) is enabled or
>disabled.
>For XP Home with Simple File Sharing enabled, make sure
>that the Guest account is enabled, thru Local User
>Manager (Start - Run - "lusrmgr.msc"), on each computer.
>Do any of the computers have a software firewall (ICF or
>third party)? If so, you need to configure them for file
>sharing, by opening ports TCP 139, 445 and UDP 137, 138,
>445, and / or by identifying the other computers as
>present in the Local (Trusted) zone. Firewall
>configurations are a very common cause of (network)
>browser, and file sharing, problems.
>Let me know if the problem still exists, Luke.
>>-----Original Message-----
>>I have 2 computers running XP Home sharing a DSL
>>connection through a Belkin 4 Port Router. Both
>>computers can access the Internet, but they cannot

>access
>>eachother for file sharing. Details:
>>
>>-ICF is disabled on both computers.
>>-NETBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on both.
>>-The computers have the same Workgroup name.
>>-Both computers can ping themselves by IP address and

by
>>name. Both can ping the other by IP address, but NOT

by
>>name.
>>-In Network Places, each computer can see itself but

not
>>the other computer.
>>
>>Thanks for your help.
>>
>>Brian
>>.
>>

>.
>

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  #8  
Old 06-25-2004, 04:27 PM
Brian
 
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Default Re: LAN problem with XP Home

On one computer, Node Type is "Hybrid." On the other,
Node Type is "Unknown." What does this mean?

-Brian

>-----Original Message-----
>"Brian" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in

message
>news:2175301c45abb$60cc6a50$a501280a@phx.gbl...
>> I have 2 computers running XP Home sharing a DSL
>> connection through a Belkin 4 Port Router. Both
>> computers can access the Internet, but they cannot

access
>> eachother for file sharing. Details:
>>
>> -ICF is disabled on both computers.
>> -NETBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on both.
>> -The computers have the same Workgroup name.
>> -Both computers can ping themselves by IP address and

by
>> name. Both can ping the other by IP address, but NOT

by
>> name.
>> -In Network Places, each computer can see itself but

not
>> the other computer.
>>
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>> Brian

>
>
>On each machine, go to a command prompt and issue the

command:
>
> ipconfig /all
>
>Report the Node Type on each machine.
>
>--
>Best Regards,
>Ron Lowe
>MS-MVP Windows Networking
>
>
>.
>

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Old 06-25-2004, 06:33 PM
Luke
 
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Default LAN problem with XP Home

Hi Brian,
I see that Ron is in contact with you, he'll
probably know better. Some other things that I have known
to help has been to manually configure the LAN
connection. First make sure that you have tried re-
running the networking wizard. If that has not worked
then try the following:
1. Open the properties for your LAN connection
2. Remove all of the protocols, services and components
in the box on the properties page (you will not be able
to remove TCP/IP).
3. Then install the following:
-Client for Microsoft Networks
-File & Printer sharing....
(If the tope 2 alone don't fix the problem try adding the
bottom 2 as well below
-NWLink NetBIOS
-NWLink IPX\SPX...
4. Restart the computer (try this on both machines)
Let me know how you get on, Luke.

>-----Original Message-----
>Hi Luke,
>
>No network connections are bridged.
>
>When I go to check whether Simple File Sharing is
>enabled, I don't see an option for it. I went to

Control
>Panel > Folder Options > View, and looked under Advanced
>Settings. There's no checkbox for Simple File Sharing.
>
>Guest Account is enabled on both computers.
>
>ICF is disabled on both computers, and neither is using

a
>third-party firewall.
>
>Any thoughts?
>
>-Brian
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Hi,
>>Can you just check whether the LAN connections on the
>>computers are bridged (on both computers);
>>1. Open network connections
>>2. Check whether there is a network connection that is
>>shown as a bridge icon.
>>3. If there is then disable it and then delete it.
>>If that doesn't work then please try the following:
>>Check to see if Simple File Sharing (Control Panel -
>>Folder Options - View - Advanced settings) is enabled

or
>>disabled.
>>For XP Home with Simple File Sharing enabled, make sure
>>that the Guest account is enabled, thru Local User
>>Manager (Start - Run - "lusrmgr.msc"), on each

computer.
>>Do any of the computers have a software firewall (ICF

or
>>third party)? If so, you need to configure them for

file
>>sharing, by opening ports TCP 139, 445 and UDP 137,

138,
>>445, and / or by identifying the other computers as
>>present in the Local (Trusted) zone. Firewall
>>configurations are a very common cause of (network)
>>browser, and file sharing, problems.
>>Let me know if the problem still exists, Luke.
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>I have 2 computers running XP Home sharing a DSL
>>>connection through a Belkin 4 Port Router. Both
>>>computers can access the Internet, but they cannot

>>access
>>>eachother for file sharing. Details:
>>>
>>>-ICF is disabled on both computers.
>>>-NETBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on both.
>>>-The computers have the same Workgroup name.
>>>-Both computers can ping themselves by IP address and

>by
>>>name. Both can ping the other by IP address, but NOT

>by
>>>name.
>>>-In Network Places, each computer can see itself but

>not
>>>the other computer.
>>>
>>>Thanks for your help.
>>>
>>>Brian
>>>.
>>>

>>.
>>

>.
>

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  #10  
Old 06-25-2004, 07:41 PM
Brian
 
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Default LAN problem with XP Home

Luke,

Activating NWLINK NetBIOS on both machines solved the
problem. Thanks so much for your help!

-Brian

>-----Original Message-----
>Hi Brian,
> I see that Ron is in contact with you, he'll
>probably know better. Some other things that I have

known
>to help has been to manually configure the LAN
>connection. First make sure that you have tried re-
>running the networking wizard. If that has not worked
>then try the following:
>1. Open the properties for your LAN connection
>2. Remove all of the protocols, services and components
>in the box on the properties page (you will not be able
>to remove TCP/IP).
>3. Then install the following:
>-Client for Microsoft Networks
>-File & Printer sharing....
>(If the tope 2 alone don't fix the problem try adding

the
>bottom 2 as well below
>-NWLink NetBIOS
>-NWLink IPX\SPX...
>4. Restart the computer (try this on both machines)
>Let me know how you get on, Luke.
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Hi Luke,
>>
>>No network connections are bridged.
>>
>>When I go to check whether Simple File Sharing is
>>enabled, I don't see an option for it. I went to

>Control
>>Panel > Folder Options > View, and looked under

Advanced
>>Settings. There's no checkbox for Simple File Sharing.
>>
>>Guest Account is enabled on both computers.
>>
>>ICF is disabled on both computers, and neither is using

>a
>>third-party firewall.
>>
>>Any thoughts?
>>
>>-Brian
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>Hi,
>>>Can you just check whether the LAN connections on the
>>>computers are bridged (on both computers);
>>>1. Open network connections
>>>2. Check whether there is a network connection that is
>>>shown as a bridge icon.
>>>3. If there is then disable it and then delete it.
>>>If that doesn't work then please try the following:
>>>Check to see if Simple File Sharing (Control Panel -
>>>Folder Options - View - Advanced settings) is enabled

>or
>>>disabled.
>>>For XP Home with Simple File Sharing enabled, make

sure
>>>that the Guest account is enabled, thru Local User
>>>Manager (Start - Run - "lusrmgr.msc"), on each

>computer.
>>>Do any of the computers have a software firewall (ICF

>or
>>>third party)? If so, you need to configure them for

>file
>>>sharing, by opening ports TCP 139, 445 and UDP 137,

>138,
>>>445, and / or by identifying the other computers as
>>>present in the Local (Trusted) zone. Firewall
>>>configurations are a very common cause of (network)
>>>browser, and file sharing, problems.
>>>Let me know if the problem still exists, Luke.
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>I have 2 computers running XP Home sharing a DSL
>>>>connection through a Belkin 4 Port Router. Both
>>>>computers can access the Internet, but they cannot
>>>access
>>>>eachother for file sharing. Details:
>>>>
>>>>-ICF is disabled on both computers.
>>>>-NETBIOS over TCP/IP is enabled on both.
>>>>-The computers have the same Workgroup name.
>>>>-Both computers can ping themselves by IP address and

>>by
>>>>name. Both can ping the other by IP address, but NOT

>>by
>>>>name.
>>>>-In Network Places, each computer can see itself but

>>not
>>>>the other computer.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for your help.
>>>>
>>>>Brian
>>>>.
>>>>
>>>.
>>>

>>.
>>

>.
>

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