I have 1 laptop (ACER) and 1 desktop (JC) which are in the same group
(BUGG) with user "Jean-Charles" as administrator on both machines.
Pings are OK, every computer can "see" the other in the workgroup
computers but the problems are after that.
JC can enter ACER but not browse the "system" folders (windows, progam
files....) then I get the "no rights" message.
ACER cannot even enter JC
I had this problem the last time with another computer in my network and
it was solved by adding the user accounts on both machines, but since this
time I'm using the same user account "Jean-Charles" on both machines and
this user is OF COURSE administrator I don't understand what is wrong
Txl wrote:
> Hello
>
> I have 1 laptop (ACER) and 1 desktop (JC) which are in the same group
> (BUGG) with user "Jean-Charles" as administrator on both machines.
>
> Pings are OK, every computer can "see" the other in the workgroup
> computers but the problems are after that.
>
> JC can enter ACER but not browse the "system" folders (windows, progam
> files....) then I get the "no rights" message.
>
> ACER cannot even enter JC
>
> I had this problem the last time with another computer in my network
> and it was solved by adding the user accounts on both machines, but
> since this time I'm using the same user account "Jean-Charles" on
> both machines and this user is OF COURSE administrator I don't
> understand what is wrong
and the passwords match?
did you disable simple file sharing?
>
> Thanks for the help
On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 19:34:11 +0200, Txl <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>Hello
>
>I have 1 laptop (ACER) and 1 desktop (JC) which are in the same group
>(BUGG) with user "Jean-Charles" as administrator on both machines.
>
>Pings are OK, every computer can "see" the other in the workgroup
>computers but the problems are after that.
>
>JC can enter ACER but not browse the "system" folders (windows, progam
>files....) then I get the "no rights" message.
>
>ACER cannot even enter JC
>
>I had this problem the last time with another computer in my network and
>it was solved by adding the user accounts on both machines, but since this
>time I'm using the same user account "Jean-Charles" on both machines and
>this user is OF COURSE administrator I don't understand what is wrong
>
>Thanks for the help
Txl,
On any XP Pro computer, check to see if Simple File Sharing (Control Panel -
Folder Options - View - Advanced settings) is enabled or disabled. With XP Pro,
you need to have the SFS settings properly set on each computer. If you want to
administer across the network (share the System folders), you have to disable
SFS - Guest won't administer.
With XP Pro, if SFS is disabled, check the Local Security Policy (Control Panel
- Administrative Tools). Under Local Policies - Security Options, look at
"Network access: Sharing and security model", and ensure it's set to "Classic -
local users authenticate as themselves". "Guest only" won't administer.
Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 13:50:07 -0400, Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]
<lanwench@heybuddy.donotsendme.unsolicitedmail.aty ahoo.com> wrote:
> Txl wrote:
>> Hello
>>
>> I have 1 laptop (ACER) and 1 desktop (JC) which are in the same group
>> (BUGG) with user "Jean-Charles" as administrator on both machines.
>>
>> Pings are OK, every computer can "see" the other in the workgroup
>> computers but the problems are after that.
>>
>> JC can enter ACER but not browse the "system" folders (windows, progam
>> files....) then I get the "no rights" message.
>>
>> ACER cannot even enter JC
>>
>> I had this problem the last time with another computer in my network
>> and it was solved by adding the user accounts on both machines, but
>> since this time I'm using the same user account "Jean-Charles" on
>> both machines and this user is OF COURSE administrator I don't
>> understand what is wrong
>
> and the passwords match?
No passwords on any of the accounts
>
> did you disable simple file sharing?
Yes, this is the first thing I do on XP, together with "show me system
files" and so on....
On 16 Jun 2004 14:06:17 -0500, Chuck <none@example.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 19:34:11 +0200, Txl <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello
>>
>> I have 1 laptop (ACER) and 1 desktop (JC) which are in the same group
>> (BUGG) with user "Jean-Charles" as administrator on both machines.
>>
>> Pings are OK, every computer can "see" the other in the workgroup
>> computers but the problems are after that.
>>
>> JC can enter ACER but not browse the "system" folders (windows, progam
>> files....) then I get the "no rights" message.
>>
>> ACER cannot even enter JC
>>
>> I had this problem the last time with another computer in my network and
>> it was solved by adding the user accounts on both machines, but since
>> this
>> time I'm using the same user account "Jean-Charles" on both machines and
>> this user is OF COURSE administrator I don't understand what is wrong
>>
>> Thanks for the help
>
> Txl,
>
> On any XP Pro computer, check to see if Simple File Sharing (Control
> Panel -
> Folder Options - View - Advanced settings) is enabled or disabled. With
> XP Pro,
> you need to have the SFS settings properly set on each computer. If you
> want to
> administer across the network (share the System folders), you have to
> disable
> SFS - Guest won't administer.
Done, SFS was out when I first installed windows
> With XP Pro, if SFS is disabled, check the Local Security Policy
> (Control Panel
> - Administrative Tools). Under Local Policies - Security Options, look
> at
> "Network access: Sharing and security model", and ensure it's set to
> "Classic -
> local users authenticate as themselves". "Guest only" won't administer.
Also done from my problem last time.
What can i try next ?
thanks
> Cheers,
> Chuck
> Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 23:11:04 +0200, Txl <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>On 16 Jun 2004 14:06:17 -0500, Chuck <none@example.net> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 19:34:11 +0200, Txl <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hello
>>>
>>> I have 1 laptop (ACER) and 1 desktop (JC) which are in the same group
>>> (BUGG) with user "Jean-Charles" as administrator on both machines.
>>>
>>> Pings are OK, every computer can "see" the other in the workgroup
>>> computers but the problems are after that.
>>>
>>> JC can enter ACER but not browse the "system" folders (windows, progam
>>> files....) then I get the "no rights" message.
>>>
>>> ACER cannot even enter JC
>>>
>>> I had this problem the last time with another computer in my network and
>>> it was solved by adding the user accounts on both machines, but since
>>> this
>>> time I'm using the same user account "Jean-Charles" on both machines and
>>> this user is OF COURSE administrator I don't understand what is wrong
>>>
>>> Thanks for the help
>>
>> Txl,
>>
>> On any XP Pro computer, check to see if Simple File Sharing (Control
>> Panel -
>> Folder Options - View - Advanced settings) is enabled or disabled. With
>> XP Pro,
>> you need to have the SFS settings properly set on each computer. If you
>> want to
>> administer across the network (share the System folders), you have to
>> disable
>> SFS - Guest won't administer.
>
>Done, SFS was out when I first installed windows
>
>
>
>> With XP Pro, if SFS is disabled, check the Local Security Policy
>> (Control Panel
>> - Administrative Tools). Under Local Policies - Security Options, look
>> at
>> "Network access: Sharing and security model", and ensure it's set to
>> "Classic -
>> local users authenticate as themselves". "Guest only" won't administer.
>
>Also done from my problem last time.
>
>
>What can i try next ?
>
>thanks
Set the Jean-Charles account with an identical, non-blank password on both
computers.
Do either of the computers have a software firewall (ICF or third party)? If
so, you need to configure them for file sharing, by opening ports TCP 139, 445
and UDP 137, 138, 445, and / or by identifying the other computers as present in
the Local (Trusted) zone. Firewall configurations are a very common cause of
(network) browser, and file sharing, problems.
Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
On 16 Jun 2004 17:50:06 -0500, Chuck <none@example.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 23:11:04 +0200, Txl <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> On 16 Jun 2004 14:06:17 -0500, Chuck <none@example.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 19:34:11 +0200, Txl <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello
>>>>
>>>> I have 1 laptop (ACER) and 1 desktop (JC) which are in the same group
>>>> (BUGG) with user "Jean-Charles" as administrator on both machines.
>>>>
>>>> Pings are OK, every computer can "see" the other in the workgroup
>>>> computers but the problems are after that.
>>>>
>>>> JC can enter ACER but not browse the "system" folders (windows, progam
>>>> files....) then I get the "no rights" message.
>>>>
>>>> ACER cannot even enter JC
>>>>
>>>> I had this problem the last time with another computer in my network
>>>> and
>>>> it was solved by adding the user accounts on both machines, but since
>>>> this
>>>> time I'm using the same user account "Jean-Charles" on both machines
>>>> and
>>>> this user is OF COURSE administrator I don't understand what is wrong
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the help
>>>
>>> Txl,
>>>
>>> On any XP Pro computer, check to see if Simple File Sharing (Control
>>> Panel -
>>> Folder Options - View - Advanced settings) is enabled or disabled.
>>> With
>>> XP Pro,
>>> you need to have the SFS settings properly set on each computer. If
>>> you
>>> want to
>>> administer across the network (share the System folders), you have to
>>> disable
>>> SFS - Guest won't administer.
>>
>> Done, SFS was out when I first installed windows
>>
>>
>>
>>> With XP Pro, if SFS is disabled, check the Local Security Policy
>>> (Control Panel
>>> - Administrative Tools). Under Local Policies - Security Options, look
>>> at
>>> "Network access: Sharing and security model", and ensure it's set to
>>> "Classic -
>>> local users authenticate as themselves". "Guest only" won't
>>> administer.
>>
>> Also done from my problem last time.
>>
>>
>> What can i try next ?
>>
>> thanks
>
> Set the Jean-Charles account with an identical, non-blank password on
> both
> computers.
>
> Do either of the computers have a software firewall (ICF or third
> party)? If
> so, you need to configure them for file sharing, by opening ports TCP
> 139, 445
> and UDP 137, 138, 445, and / or by identifying the other computers as
> present in
> the Local (Trusted) zone. Firewall configurations are a very common
> cause of
> (network) browser, and file sharing, problems.
>
> Cheers,
> Chuck
> Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
Ok, moving along...after many reboots
ACER can now fully access JC, no problem, JC can "see" ACER, enter the
"non sytem folders" but is blocked upon entering "windows", or "program
files"
I can live with this since I can move the files I want to a "non sytem"
folder and then do my file shuffle internally from ACER but I'd like toi
make it work.
I have BLACK ICE Firewall installed but the proper ports are opened and
anyway the network is working fine on the other PCs and the windows
firewall is one of the first things to go (with SFS and messenger).
What can i do to make JC access ACER's system folders ?
Home network (again !) 
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