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Old 06-14-2007, 07:18 AM
Kayman
 
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Default XP Firewall vs Vista Firewall.

In my view, the XP FW is doing its job adequately. Provided you surf safely
and are careful what to install there is no concern with respect to outbound
traffic. I am faring with this quite well and have no intentions to
change/opt
for a 3rd party firewall application.

I understand that the Vista firewall does monitor outbound traffic.

I am curious to know as why MS changed their original concept and what
were the *technical* justifications.

Was it (justified/unjustified) customer pressure?

Maybe I am wrong, but if the circumstances were really *that* pressing for
introducing a firewall monitoring outbound traffic, wouldn't MS bring out
some
kind of 'patch' to upgrade the WinXP firewall accordingly?

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Old 06-14-2007, 01:05 PM
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Default Re: XP Firewall vs Vista Firewall.

"Kayman" <kayhkay~nospam~@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Maybe I am wrong, but if the circumstances were really *that* pressing for
> introducing a firewall monitoring outbound traffic, wouldn't MS bring out
> some
> kind of 'patch' to upgrade the WinXP firewall accordingly?


Then you wouldn't have to buy Vista.

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Old 06-14-2007, 03:31 PM
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Default Re: XP Firewall vs Vista Firewall.

On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 13:18:14 +0700, Kayman wrote:

> In my view, the XP FW is doing its job adequately.


It's nothing but a toy. Take it a site that tests firewalls, and see why.
Al it does is hide you.

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Old 06-15-2007, 02:29 AM
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Default Re: XP Firewall vs Vista Firewall.

Kayman wrote:
> In my view, the XP FW is doing its job adequately. Provided you surf safely
> and are careful what to install there is no concern with respect to
> outbound
> traffic. I am faring with this quite well and have no intentions to
> change/opt
> for a 3rd party firewall application.
>



You've mostly been lucky, then. Some things get by even the most
stringent precautions; a firewall that monitors outbound traffic would
tell you that that had happened.


> I understand that the Vista firewall does monitor outbound traffic.
>
> I am curious to know as why MS changed their original concept and what
> were the *technical* justifications.
>


For the improved security provided by the ability to monitor outbound
traffic, of course.


> Was it (justified/unjustified) customer pressure?
>


Since when has Microsoft ever listened to customers?


> Maybe I am wrong, but if the circumstances were really *that* pressing for
> introducing a firewall monitoring outbound traffic, wouldn't MS bring
> out some
> kind of 'patch' to upgrade the WinXP firewall accordingly?



When they're trying to sell a newer, more secure OS? Are you serious?


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Old 06-15-2007, 05:00 AM
Kayman
 
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Default Re: XP Firewall vs Vista Firewall.

"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
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> Kayman wrote:
>> In my view, the XP FW is doing its job adequately. Provided you surf
>> safely
>> and are careful what to install there is no concern with respect to
>> outbound
>> traffic. I am faring with this quite well and have no intentions to
>> change/opt
>> for a 3rd party firewall application.
>>

> You've mostly been lucky, then. Some things get by even the most
> stringent precautions;


Well, call whatever you want; I make my own luck.

> a firewall that monitors outbound traffic would tell you that that had
> happened.


It only would tell me if my pc was infected in the *first* place. A good AV
application
is adding to my so-called 'luck'

>> I understand that the Vista firewall does monitor outbound traffic.
>>
>> I am curious to know as why MS changed their original concept and what
>> were the *technical* justifications.
>>

>
> For the improved security provided by the ability to monitor outbound
> traffic, of course.


This is not improved security. No infection = No worries about outbound
traffic.

>
>> Was it (justified/unjustified) customer pressure?

>
> Since when has Microsoft ever listened to customers?


I am not so sure about this statment but won't go into any debates

>
>> Maybe I am wrong, but if the circumstances were really *that* pressing
>> for
>> introducing a firewall monitoring outbound traffic, wouldn't MS bring out
>> some
>> kind of 'patch' to upgrade the WinXP firewall accordingly?

>
> When they're trying to sell a newer, more secure OS? Are you serious?


Yes, I am. Why would MS continue to provide 'patches' etc. every month and
why are they going to offer Win XP SP3 sometimes in the first half of 2008?
An enhancement to the XP FW would therefore be appropriate if it *really*
was
called for.

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