>"PD43" <pauld1943@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:8of424d19qk1n3e9pap6hb7m2hgkjceak5@4ax.com.. .
>> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>news:eAL3o5IsIHA.4376@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> Truth be told, the only certainty in this universe is .... uncertainty.
>>>
>>>I dunno about that...
>>>
>> Bill - in case you've not noticed - lives in a different universe.
>
>Not from me. I live in Colorado also.
Ain't no difference. While he hails from Colorado, his mind is on
another planet... or another universe.
I spent almost a year working in Colorado back in '79. Wheatridge (a
suburb of Denver).
"Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:B95EA80D-ABBD-4141-8FC9-62C95D954B46@microsoft.com...
> SP3 is not the security upgrade that SP2 was. There are some new and some
> enhanced functionalities in it. It's actually very helpful in a network
> with Vista computers, for example.
>
> You aren't going to dam the tide of folks wanting the latest thing so all
> anyone can do is advise moderation.
> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:%23uU0wSIsIHA.3780@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> OK, sorry. But I hate seeing everyone blindly jumping on the SP3
>> bandwagon as some (alleged) "necessity" (or in bringing "such great
>> benefits"), when it really isn't.
>> (I'll concede the point it likely tightens up a few more alleged
>> potential security leaks, but THAT is just a neverending story that seems
>> completely out of hand now). "True security comes from within": how
>> YOU use your machine, and what sites YOU visit. The responsibility
>> should be placed where it belongs: on the user, and his own habits. And
>> if he ventures out of there, that's on him. In short, you'll never
>> make any computer perfectly safe from the user's use or abuse. And
>> what's worse, every time they come up with a new "patch", problems
>> *always* surface. (I've been around the block just too many times on
>> this one).
>>
>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:
>>> My point is the ad hominems, Bill.
>>>
>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>> news:%23MY8ZIBsIHA.552@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> The "factual evidence" for wanting or needing SP3?? Well, you SHOW
>>>> me.
>>>> Bottom line: there isn't any (except for wanting to "stay up-to-date"
>>>> (whatever that means) - and that's not *factual* evidence of anything.
>>>>
>>>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:
>>>>> Bill, the ad hominems just aren't helpful. Users are not sheep. Show
>>>>> your
>>>>> superiority with factual advice.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%23ZNdkx$rIHA.5724@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> No, it is NOT necessary. (But you can always join the sheep who
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> blindly doing it, if you want! :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Christie wrote:
>>>>>>> I recall big problems when machines were updated to SP2. My Dell
>>>>>>> works
>>>>>>> great and I don't want to chance f'n something up. Is it really
>>>>>>> necessary
>>>>>>> to upgrade to SP3? What if I don't? What do I have to gain by
>>>>>>> upgrading?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lastly, if I upgrade, can I use System Restore to go back to SP2?
>>>>>>> Probably not, ey?
>>
I don't think so, all my restore points were gone after the install of SP3
WMB wrote:
> "Colin Barnhorst" <c.barnhorst@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:B95EA80D-ABBD-4141-8FC9-62C95D954B46@microsoft.com...
>> SP3 is not the security upgrade that SP2 was. There are some new and
>> some
>> enhanced functionalities in it. It's actually very helpful in a network
>> with Vista computers, for example.
>>
>> You aren't going to dam the tide of folks wanting the latest thing so all
>> anyone can do is advise moderation.
>>
>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:%23uU0wSIsIHA.3780@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> OK, sorry. But I hate seeing everyone blindly jumping on the SP3
>>> bandwagon as some (alleged) "necessity" (or in bringing "such great
>>> benefits"), when it really isn't.
>>>
>>> (I'll concede the point it likely tightens up a few more alleged
>>> potential security leaks, but THAT is just a neverending story that
>>> seems
>>> completely out of hand now). "True security comes from within": how
>>> YOU use your machine, and what sites YOU visit. The responsibility
>>> should be placed where it belongs: on the user, and his own habits. And
>>> if he ventures out of there, that's on him. In short, you'll never
>>> make any computer perfectly safe from the user's use or abuse. And
>>> what's worse, every time they come up with a new "patch", problems
>>> *always* surface. (I've been around the block just too many times on
>>> this one).
>>>
>>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:
>>>> My point is the ad hominems, Bill.
>>>>
>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23MY8ZIBsIHA.552@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> The "factual evidence" for wanting or needing SP3?? Well, you SHOW
>>>>> me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bottom line: there isn't any (except for wanting to "stay up-to-date"
>>>>> (whatever that means) - and that's not *factual* evidence of anything.
>>>>>
>>>>> Colin Barnhorst wrote:
>>>>>> Bill, the ad hominems just aren't helpful. Users are not sheep.
>>>>>> Show
>>>>>> your superiority with factual advice.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Bill in Co." <not_really_here@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:%23ZNdkx$rIHA.5724@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> No, it is NOT necessary. (But you can always join the sheep who
>>>>>>> are blindly doing it, if you want! :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Christie wrote:
>>>>>>>> I recall big problems when machines were updated to SP2. My Dell
>>>>>>>> works great and I don't want to chance f'n something up. Is it
>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>> necessary
>>>>>>>> to upgrade to SP3? What if I don't? What do I have to gain by
>>>>>>>> upgrading?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lastly, if I upgrade, can I use System Restore to go back to SP2?
>>>>>>>> Probably not, ey?
>>>
>
> I don't think so, all my restore points were gone after the install of SP3
Besides which, it just seems that this would be one more of those things
that would (most likely) be a bit beyond the capabilities of System Restore,
due to the plethora of system file changes and overwrites.
Re: wise and/or necessary to SP3 ? 
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