Windows Security Center???

In the past, I've not used the security components in Windows XP. I use AVG
Pro for AV, Zone Alarm for firewall, and a number of antispyware programs,
including Spyware Doctor.

Apparently in recent auto updates, MS has enabled all of the Windows
security stuff. I went into the Windows XP Pro security window, but there
doesn't seem to be any way to disable them. I've been advised that when
multiple security software programs are used, that problems can arise, and I
know from experience that is true.

So, how does one disable the Windows security stuff? Why has MS made this so
difficult now?

Ron Hirsch

"Ron Hirsch" <rbhirsch1h4i3r9s@NOSPAMcomcast.net> wrote in message
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> In the past, I've not used the security components in Windows XP. I use
> AVG
> Pro for AV, Zone Alarm for firewall, and a number of antispyware programs,
> including Spyware Doctor.
>
> Apparently in recent auto updates, MS has enabled all of the Windows
> security stuff. I went into the Windows XP Pro security window, but there
> doesn't seem to be any way to disable them. I've been advised that when
> multiple security software programs are used, that problems can arise, and
> I
> know from experience that is true.
>
> So, how does one disable the Windows security stuff? Why has MS made this
> so
> difficult now?


What do you mean by "MS has enabled all of the Windows security stuff"?
What security stuff? What exactly is the problem?

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

WinXP SP2's Security Center monitors the *status* or your anti-virus
application, your firewall, and Automatic Updates. It's often the first to
notice (and notify you) that something's gone amiss so I recommend leaving
it alone.

However, you can "change the way Security Center alerts [you]", if you look
closely. <w>
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org


Ron Hirsch wrote:
> In the past, I've not used the security components in Windows XP. I use
> AVG
> Pro for AV, Zone Alarm for firewall, and a number of antispyware programs,
> including Spyware Doctor.
>
> Apparently in recent auto updates, MS has enabled all of the Windows
> security stuff. I went into the Windows XP Pro security window, but there
> doesn't seem to be any way to disable them. I've been advised that when
> multiple security software programs are used, that problems can arise, and
> I
> know from experience that is true.
>
> So, how does one disable the Windows security stuff? Why has MS made this
> so
> difficult now?
>
> Ron Hirsch

Hey..im the same got PC CIllen too on mine and after these last updates got
these programmes poping up all the time and cant get rid of them...
SO has anyone found out how to rid the PC of it..cause its driving me nuts
and my hubby wants to reformate PC to be rid of them....
Will reformattin remove them

"PA Bear" wrote:

> WinXP SP2's Security Center monitors the *status* or your anti-virus
> application, your firewall, and Automatic Updates. It's often the first to
> notice (and notify you) that something's gone amiss so I recommend leaving
> it alone.
>
> However, you can "change the way Security Center alerts [you]", if you look
> closely. <w>
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
> AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org
>
>
> Ron Hirsch wrote:
> > In the past, I've not used the security components in Windows XP. I use
> > AVG
> > Pro for AV, Zone Alarm for firewall, and a number of antispyware programs,
> > including Spyware Doctor.
> >
> > Apparently in recent auto updates, MS has enabled all of the Windows
> > security stuff. I went into the Windows XP Pro security window, but there
> > doesn't seem to be any way to disable them. I've been advised that when
> > multiple security software programs are used, that problems can arise, and
> > I
> > know from experience that is true.
> >
> > So, how does one disable the Windows security stuff? Why has MS made this
> > so
> > difficult now?
> >
> > Ron Hirsch
>
>

I interpreted the fact that everything is set to "ON" meant that Windows has
enabled the Windows security software. Possibly I misinterpreted this, and
it is just telling me that there are active AV and firewall programs on my
system, whihc of course is correct.

Does not Windows have MS security utilities of its own, which many people
accept, rather than bothering with 3rd party software?

I know in the past that by having 3rd party protection running, I had a
window which allowed me to disable the MS protection. And I've seen m uc
written that when using 3rd party software, the Windows function should be
disabled - is this not so?

Ron Hirsch

+++++++++++++++++++

"Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote in message
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"Ron Hirsch" <rbhirsch1h4i3r9s@NOSPAMcomcast.net> wrote in message
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> In the past, I've not used the security components in Windows XP. I use
> AVG
> Pro for AV, Zone Alarm for firewall, and a number of antispyware programs,
> including Spyware Doctor.
>
> Apparently in recent auto updates, MS has enabled all of the Windows
> security stuff. I went into the Windows XP Pro security window, but there
> doesn't seem to be any way to disable them. I've been advised that when
> multiple security software programs are used, that problems can arise, and
> I
> know from experience that is true.
>
> So, how does one disable the Windows security stuff? Why has MS made this
> so
> difficult now?


What do you mean by "MS has enabled all of the Windows security stuff"?
What security stuff? What exactly is the problem?

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

"Ron Hirsch" <rbhirsch1h4i3r9s@NOSPAMcomcast.net> wrote
>I interpreted the fact that everything is set to "ON" meant that Windows
>has
> enabled the Windows security software. Possibly I misinterpreted this, and
> it is just telling me that there are active AV and firewall programs on my
> system, whihc of course is correct.
>
> Does not Windows have MS security utilities of its own, which many people
> accept, rather than bothering with 3rd party software?
>
> I know in the past that by having 3rd party protection running, I had a
> window which allowed me to disable the MS protection. And I've seen m uc
> written that when using 3rd party software, the Windows function should be
> disabled - is this not so?

> "Rock" <Rock@nospam.net> wrote

> "Ron Hirsch" <rbhirsch1h4i3r9s@NOSPAMcomcast.net> wrote
>> In the past, I've not used the security components in Windows XP. I use
>> AVG
>> Pro for AV, Zone Alarm for firewall, and a number of antispyware
>> programs,
>> including Spyware Doctor.
>>
>> Apparently in recent auto updates, MS has enabled all of the Windows
>> security stuff. I went into the Windows XP Pro security window, but there
>> doesn't seem to be any way to disable them. I've been advised that when
>> multiple security software programs are used, that problems can arise,
>> and
>> I
>> know from experience that is true.
>>
>> So, how does one disable the Windows security stuff? Why has MS made this
>> so
>> difficult now?
>
>
> What do you mean by "MS has enabled all of the Windows security stuff"?
> What security stuff? What exactly is the problem?

XP comes with a firewall. It is turned on by default in SP2. Some 3rd
party firewalls will disable the XP firewall. One should not run two
firewalls at the same time. It can cause problems. If a 3rd party firewall
is installed then make sure that XP's is disabled.

XP does not have an AV program or any anti-spyware apps. You can install
windows defender for anti-spyware as an add on. All the Security Center
does is tell you if there is an AV program or firewall active, and the
status of automatic updates. It does not by itself install or control any
security apps.

Some 3rd party programs can disable the security center.

If you need more help provide more specifics of the security programs you're
running and what the issues are.

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

Rock,

OK, I misunderstood the security dialog box window info. I overlooked the
fact that Windows recognized 3rd party security software.

When I looked further, I did see that Windows firewall was not activated,
and that Windows was advising me that there was an active firewall.
ZoneAlarm apparently did turn off the Windows firewall.

So I really have no issues

Thanks

Ron Hirsch

++++++++++++++++++

XP comes with a firewall. It is turned on by default in SP2. Some 3rd
party firewalls will disable the XP firewall. One should not run two
firewalls at the same time. It can cause problems. If a 3rd party firewall
is installed then make sure that XP's is disabled.

XP does not have an AV program or any anti-spyware apps. You can install
windows defender for anti-spyware as an add on. All the Security Center
does is tell you if there is an AV program or firewall active, and the
status of automatic updates. It does not by itself install or control any
security apps.

Some 3rd party programs can disable the security center.

If you need more help provide more specifics of the security programs you're
running and what the issues are.

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

You're welcome, Ron.

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

"Ron Hirsch" <rbhirsch1h4i3r9s@NOSPAMcomcast.net> wrote
> Rock,
>
> OK, I misunderstood the security dialog box window info. I overlooked the
> fact that Windows recognized 3rd party security software.
>
> When I looked further, I did see that Windows firewall was not activated,
> and that Windows was advising me that there was an active firewall.
> ZoneAlarm apparently did turn off the Windows firewall.
>
> So I really have no issues
>
> Thanks
>
> Ron Hirsch
>
> ++++++++++++++++++
>
> XP comes with a firewall. It is turned on by default in SP2. Some 3rd
> party firewalls will disable the XP firewall. One should not run two
> firewalls at the same time. It can cause problems. If a 3rd party
> firewall
> is installed then make sure that XP's is disabled.
>
> XP does not have an AV program or any anti-spyware apps. You can install
> windows defender for anti-spyware as an add on. All the Security Center
> does is tell you if there is an AV program or firewall active, and the
> status of automatic updates. It does not by itself install or control any
> security apps.
>
> Some 3rd party programs can disable the security center.
>
> If you need more help provide more specifics of the security programs
> you're
> running and what the issues are.