Windows XP Media Center Edition 2002:
> "If you install Windows XP SP3 on a computer running Windows XP Media Center
> Edition 2002 with SP1, Windows XP Media Center Edition may malfunction. To
> avoid this, install Windows XP SP2 before you install Windows XP SP3. If
> this issue has already occurred, uninstall Windows XP SP3, install Windows
> XP SP2, and then reinstall Windows XP SP3."
SP3 Doesn't seem to like MCE 2005 either I recently installed SP3 and
rebooted as per instructions only to find that upon reboot IE7 was only
usable for 5 mins before it crashed and that Outlook Express 6 refused to
work full stop, evan after myself and my ISP had re-configured settings, as
far as I'm concerned if there are bugs in the release it shouldn't have been
released and looking around the web there is plenty of evidence to suggest
that I am not alone
Richard
"Shenan Stanley" wrote:
> Chris wrote:
> > while many people have been able to successfully upgrade to sp3,
> > i've seen more than enough complains and issues created by
> > the pack to make me think twice before downloading it.
> >
> > i dont want to lose my files, and i currently dont have a way to
> > back up my hard drive.
> >
> > all im looking for is an honest to god yes or no on whether or
> > not i should go ahead and update to sp3.
> >
> > so yes or no?
>
> Patrick Keenan wrote:
> > You can certainly download it without installing it.
> >
> > It's probably a better idea to download it, and install it from a
> > local file, than to use Windows Update.
> >
> > If you don't have a way to back up your files and don't want to
> > lose them, you shouldn't use your PC at all till you resolve that
> > major issue. It's never a good idea to use a PC, let alone install a
> > service
> > pack, without backing it up.
> >
> > It's very easy to make backups. 500 gig hard disks are under
> > $100 now, and external drive cases are around $30.
> >
> > So no, you shouldn't install it if you have no way to back it up.
> >
> > What you should do is address the backup issue, determine whether
> > you have an AMD processor, then take the steps to install SP3.
>
> <answers inline from here on>
>
> George wrote:
> > If you have an AMD Chip, don't put SP3 on.
>
> False.
> If you have an AMD chip and think there is a possibility your OEM used an
> image made on an Intel chip to 'put' Windows XP onto the system - then you
> need to perform a step or two before installing SP3 all because your OEM
> messed up things for you.
>
> > If you have Norton Anti-Virus, don't put SP3 on.
>
> False.
> While some people have better luck installing *anything* with their AV
> turned off - on the many I have installed upon so far (60+% with
> Norton/Symantec AV - admitrtedly AV *only*) I have not turned off or
> uninstalled the AV software nor had any issues by doing this.
>
> > There are many more reasons not to install SP3 but you need to read
> > about the the issues and work-arounds.
>
> There are no _reasons_ not to install SP3. I can show _excuses_ and _things
> that need effort put into them_ because something is already wrong with the
> system in question - things that Windows XP SP3 would exasperate if
> installed without first fixing them - but that is not a reason to stop the
> installation of SP3 - that is a reason to fix what is wrong with your
> computer.
>
> > If you building a computer or have on that has hardly no software
> > installed, then you stand a better chance of getting it installed
> > without issues.
>
> No doubt a clean install means the least amount of effort.
>
> For the rest of the world (including the OP) - the answer is, "Yes, you
> should put forth the effort to install SP3 on your Windows XP system.
> Excuses can be given things can be postponed - but sooner or later - you
> likely will be doing it anyway."
>
> Prepare for it - backup your stuff (if you don't have a method of doing this
> already - spin the barrel again... click... click... boom! = or you could
> start doing what one thing is unique about "risk and computers"...) and read
> through the known issues and the things that resolve them. Do those things
> *before* installing SP3 and then you can install SP3 with the confidence
> that worst case is restoring your system to the state you last backed it up
> in. Best case - you have cleaned up and fixed problems that already existed
> on your system (you don't have to know you have a blood clot to suddenly
> drop dead from one) and gotten the latest service pack for your operating
> system installed.
>
> A place to get FREE support for SP3 installation issues *from Microsoft*...
> http://support.microsoft.com/oas/def...3&gprid=522131
>
>
> WinXP SP3 - Read all prerequisites for a successful installation
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/harrywaldron...tallation.aspx
>
> Steps to take before you install Windows XP Service Pack 3
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/950717
>
> Release Notes for Windows XP Service Pack 3
> http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...1/relnotes.htm
>
> Key things to note:
>
> Internet Explorer:
> "If you have installed Windows Internet Explorer® 7 or a beta version of
> Internet Explorer 8, and then install Windows XP SP3, you cannot uninstall
> Internet Explorer. To avoid this, ensure Internet Explorer 7 or a beta
> version of Internet Explorer 8 is not installed before installing Windows XP
> SP3. If you have already encountered this issue, uninstall Windows XP SP3,
> uninstall Internet Explorer, and then reinstall Windows XP SP3."
>
> Windows XP Media Center Edition 2002:
> "If you install Windows XP SP3 on a computer running Windows XP Media Center
> Edition 2002 with SP1, Windows XP Media Center Edition may malfunction. To
> avoid this, install Windows XP SP2 before you install Windows XP SP3. If
> this issue has already occurred, uninstall Windows XP SP3, install Windows
> XP SP2, and then reinstall Windows XP SP3."
>
> It seems some people are unable to get further updates after installing
> SP3... Seems some have experienced a symptom similar to doing a repair
> installation on Windows XP - and the same fix seems to work for them for
> that...
>
> Updates are not installed successfully from Windows Update, from Microsoft
> Update, or by using Automatic Updates after you repair a Windows XP
> installation
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943144
>
> Some people experience an "endless reboot" issue...
>
> From PA Bear [MS MVP]:
> Workarounds:
>
> http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesp...ng-xp-sp3.aspx
> [NB: The above has been updated many times and now includes "a small tool
> that will detect the IntelPPM problem and mitigate it before installing
> [WinXP SP3]."
>
> 1. Boot into Safe Mode and rename INTELPMM.SYS to INTELPMM.OLD.
> 2. After booting into Safe Mode:
> Start --> Run --> (copy/paste)
> sc config intelppm start= disabled
> --> OK --> Reboot into normal (Windows) mode.
>
> Other references include:
> .. http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?p=187790#p187790
> ..
> http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesp...ng-xp-sp3.aspx
> .. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05...boots_crashes/
> ..
> http://www.computerworld.com/action/...icleId=9084418
> .. You receive a "Stop 0x0000007E" error message after you upgrade to Windows
> XP Service Pack 2 or Service Pack 3 on a non-Intel-processor-based computer
> (Revised 06 May-08)
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/888372
>
> Good luck!
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
>
>
"Dickiedriver" <Dickiedriver@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:88E5CCA7-208E-470B-949F-58C5E001DA6C@microsoft.com...
> Windows XP Media Center Edition 2002:
>> "If you install Windows XP SP3 on a computer running Windows XP Media
>> Center
>> Edition 2002 with SP1, Windows XP Media Center Edition may malfunction.
>> To
>> avoid this, install Windows XP SP2 before you install Windows XP SP3. If
>> this issue has already occurred, uninstall Windows XP SP3, install
>> Windows
>> XP SP2, and then reinstall Windows XP SP3."
>
> SP3 Doesn't seem to like MCE 2005 either I recently installed SP3 and
> rebooted as per instructions only to find that upon reboot IE7 was only
> usable for 5 mins before it crashed and that Outlook Express 6 refused to
> work full stop, evan after myself and my ISP had re-configured settings,
> as
> far as I'm concerned if there are bugs in the release it shouldn't have
> been
> released and looking around the web there is plenty of evidence to suggest
> that I am not alone
All MS code is bug ladden. That is why the wise will not install a service
pack until it has been released for several months.
Newest report now (something bad comes out every day) is that SP3 installs
an old version of Flash. That mean you will have to go through the updates
and reinstall the updates pertaining to Flash. While this is not a big
deal... it fly's in the face of Microsoft who has always stated that the
latest service packs are fully inclusive (not true now).
Not a big issue but wanted to pass it on.
"Patrick Keenan" <test@dev.null> wrote in message
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>
> "Chris" <Chris@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> newsCB3E818-FA36-41ED-A3BA-ACC3EAA9EE26@microsoft.com...
>> while many people have been able to successfully upgrade to sp3, i've
>> seen
>> more than enough complains and issues created by the pack to make me
>> think
>> twice before downloading it.
>
> You can certainly download it without installing it.
>
> It's probably a better idea to download it, and install it from a local
> file, than to use Windows Update.
>
>>
>> i dont want to lose my files, and i currently dont have a way to back up
>> my
>> hard drive.
>
> If you don't have a way to back up your files and don't want to lose them,
> you shouldn't use your PC at all till you resolve that major issue.
>
>
>> all im looking for is an honest to god yes or no on whether or not i
>> should
>> go ahead and update to sp3.
>>
>> so yes or no?
>
> It's never a good idea to use a PC, let alone install a service pack,
> without backing it up.
>
> It's very easy to make backups. 500 gig hard disks are under $100 now,
> and external drive cases are around $30.
>
> So no, you shouldn't install it if you have no way to back it up.
>
> What you should do is address the backup issue, determine whether you have
> an AMD processor, then take the steps to install SP3.
>
> HTH
> -pk
>
>
I wish I had seen this before ! I have AMD and Norton - I lost all my
programs and the "restore point" was no use at all. My data is safe but my
programs have all gone and it is taking a long time to get back. To add
insult to injury Microsoft still want me to attempt SP3 again. I'm very very
very angry.
"George" wrote:
> If you have an AMD Chip, don't put SP3 on.
> If you have Norton Anti-Virus, don't put SP3 on.
> There are many more reasons not to install SP3 but you need to read about
> the the issues and work-arounds.
>
> If you building a computer or have on that has hardly no software installed,
> then you stand a better chance of getting it installed without issues.
>
> "Patrick Keenan" <test@dev.null> wrote in message
> news:utMijHFxIHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >
> > "Chris" <Chris@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > newsCB3E818-FA36-41ED-A3BA-ACC3EAA9EE26@microsoft.com...
> >> while many people have been able to successfully upgrade to sp3, i've
> >> seen
> >> more than enough complains and issues created by the pack to make me
> >> think
> >> twice before downloading it.
> >
> > You can certainly download it without installing it.
> >
> > It's probably a better idea to download it, and install it from a local
> > file, than to use Windows Update.
> >
> >>
> >> i dont want to lose my files, and i currently dont have a way to back up
> >> my
> >> hard drive.
> >
> > If you don't have a way to back up your files and don't want to lose them,
> > you shouldn't use your PC at all till you resolve that major issue.
> >
> >
> >> all im looking for is an honest to god yes or no on whether or not i
> >> should
> >> go ahead and update to sp3.
> >>
> >> so yes or no?
> >
> > It's never a good idea to use a PC, let alone install a service pack,
> > without backing it up.
> >
> > It's very easy to make backups. 500 gig hard disks are under $100 now,
> > and external drive cases are around $30.
> >
> > So no, you shouldn't install it if you have no way to back it up.
> >
> > What you should do is address the backup issue, determine whether you have
> > an AMD processor, then take the steps to install SP3.
> >
> > HTH
> > -pk
> >
> >
>
"Wiz-less" <Wiz-less@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:537D5D50-2862-4C2B-956E-227C1AEE50DB@microsoft.com...
>I wish I had seen this before ! I have AMD and Norton - I lost all my
> programs and the "restore point" was no use at all. My data is safe but
> my
> programs have all gone and it is taking a long time to get back. To add
> insult to injury Microsoft still want me to attempt SP3 again. I'm very
> very
> very angry.
>
>
> "George" wrote:
>
>> If you have an AMD Chip, don't put SP3 on.
>> If you have Norton Anti-Virus, don't put SP3 on.
>> There are many more reasons not to install SP3 but you need to read about
>> the the issues and work-arounds.
>>
>> If you building a computer or have on that has hardly no software
>> installed,
>> then you stand a better chance of getting it installed without issues.
>>
>> "Patrick Keenan" <test@dev.null> wrote in message
>> news:utMijHFxIHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> >
>> > "Chris" <Chris@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > newsCB3E818-FA36-41ED-A3BA-ACC3EAA9EE26@microsoft.com...
>> >> while many people have been able to successfully upgrade to sp3, i've
>> >> seen
>> >> more than enough complains and issues created by the pack to make me
>> >> think
>> >> twice before downloading it.
>> >
>> > You can certainly download it without installing it.
>> >
>> > It's probably a better idea to download it, and install it from a local
>> > file, than to use Windows Update.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> i dont want to lose my files, and i currently dont have a way to back
>> >> up
>> >> my
>> >> hard drive.
>> >
>> > If you don't have a way to back up your files and don't want to lose
>> > them,
>> > you shouldn't use your PC at all till you resolve that major issue.
>> >
>> >
>> >> all im looking for is an honest to god yes or no on whether or not i
>> >> should
>> >> go ahead and update to sp3.
>> >>
>> >> so yes or no?
>> >
>> > It's never a good idea to use a PC, let alone install a service pack,
>> > without backing it up.
>> >
>> > It's very easy to make backups. 500 gig hard disks are under $100
>> > now,
>> > and external drive cases are around $30.
>> >
>> > So no, you shouldn't install it if you have no way to back it up.
>> >
>> > What you should do is address the backup issue, determine whether you
>> > have
>> > an AMD processor, then take the steps to install SP3.
>> >
>> > HTH
>> > -pk
>> >
>> >
>>
I installed SP3 on two AMD systems that were NOT running Norton <anything>..
had no problems at all..
Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
> "Wiz-less" <Wiz-less@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:537D5D50-2862-4C2B-956E-227C1AEE50DB@microsoft.com...
>> I wish I had seen this before ! I have AMD and Norton - I lost all my
>> programs and the "restore point" was no use at all. My data is safe
>> but my
>> programs have all gone and it is taking a long time to get back. To add
>> insult to injury Microsoft still want me to attempt SP3 again. I'm
>> very very
>> very angry.
>>
>>
>> "George" wrote:
>>
>>> If you have an AMD Chip, don't put SP3 on.
>>> If you have Norton Anti-Virus, don't put SP3 on.
>>> There are many more reasons not to install SP3 but you need to read
>>> about
>>> the the issues and work-arounds.
>>>
>>> If you building a computer or have on that has hardly no software
>>> installed,
>>> then you stand a better chance of getting it installed without issues.
>>>
>>> "Patrick Keenan" <test@dev.null> wrote in message
>>> news:utMijHFxIHA.3968@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> >
>>> > "Chris" <Chris@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> > newsCB3E818-FA36-41ED-A3BA-ACC3EAA9EE26@microsoft.com...
>>> >> while many people have been able to successfully upgrade to sp3, i've
>>> >> seen
>>> >> more than enough complains and issues created by the pack to make me
>>> >> think
>>> >> twice before downloading it.
>>> >
>>> > You can certainly download it without installing it.
>>> >
>>> > It's probably a better idea to download it, and install it from a
>>> local
>>> > file, than to use Windows Update.
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> i dont want to lose my files, and i currently dont have a way to
>>> back >> up
>>> >> my
>>> >> hard drive.
>>> >
>>> > If you don't have a way to back up your files and don't want to
>>> lose > them,
>>> > you shouldn't use your PC at all till you resolve that major issue.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> all im looking for is an honest to god yes or no on whether or not i
>>> >> should
>>> >> go ahead and update to sp3.
>>> >>
>>> >> so yes or no?
>>> >
>>> > It's never a good idea to use a PC, let alone install a service pack,
>>> > without backing it up.
>>> >
>>> > It's very easy to make backups. 500 gig hard disks are under $100
>>> > now,
>>> > and external drive cases are around $30.
>>> >
>>> > So no, you shouldn't install it if you have no way to back it up.
>>> >
>>> > What you should do is address the backup issue, determine whether
>>> you > have
>>> > an AMD processor, then take the steps to install SP3.
>>> >
>>> > HTH
>>> > -pk
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>
>
> I installed SP3 on two AMD systems that were NOT running Norton
> <anything>.. had no problems at all..
>
>
so did I AMD is not a problem--Norton maybe problematic--disable it
temporarily
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