>> I've been surfing the 'net for 15 years and have yet to get my first
>> virus/malware infestation.
>
>I find that seriously hard to believe.
Sorry... it's true. And for probably half of that time I ran without
virus protection.
It's simple: I don't visit strange websites, don't download from
unknown sites, don't do file-sharing and I play safe with email.
>Even if you keep your virus checker
>as up to date as you can, there is always a short interval between the
>release of a new virus and the virus checker gaining the ability to detect
>it. As for other malware: have you tried a scan with AdAware and other
>similar products? They usually turn up all sorts of surprises (and plenty
>of them to boot).
Stopped doing that a couple years ago... all it ever found was
"tracking cookies". I now regularly check my cookie file and delete
those I don't want (CC Cleaner).
"PD43" <pauld1943@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> It's simple: I don't visit strange websites, don't download from
> unknown sites, don't do file-sharing and I play safe with email.
>
well all I can say is you've been EXTREMELY lucky. Do you get attachments by
email? Many viruses are spread by people opening attachments from PEOPLE
THEY KNOW.....
>"PD43" <pauld1943@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:mdt7s3lm9180p7st4um072e068lqp84r6s@4ax.com.. .
>> It's simple: I don't visit strange websites, don't download from
>> unknown sites, don't do file-sharing and I play safe with email.
>>
>
>well all I can say is you've been EXTREMELY lucky. Do you get attachments by
>email? Many viruses are spread by people opening attachments from PEOPLE
>THEY KNOW.....
>
I'm well aware of that... one can hardly have spent as much time on
the 'net as I have and NOT know that. Why does it seem to bother you
so much that I have never had a virus or malware infestation?
"PD43" <pauld1943@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> "Gordon" <gbplinux@gmail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>>"PD43" <pauld1943@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>news:mdt7s3lm9180p7st4um072e068lqp84r6s@4ax.com. ..
>>> It's simple: I don't visit strange websites, don't download from
>>> unknown sites, don't do file-sharing and I play safe with email.
>>>
>>
>>well all I can say is you've been EXTREMELY lucky. Do you get attachments
>>by
>>email? Many viruses are spread by people opening attachments from PEOPLE
>>THEY KNOW.....
>>
>
> I'm well aware of that... one can hardly have spent as much time on
> the 'net as I have and NOT know that. Why does it seem to bother you
> so much that I have never had a virus or malware infestation?
It doesn't - I am concerned however that you may not KNOW you've ever had a
virus, and may, unwittingly, have spread it to others. That is why there are
virus checkers for Linux, not, to protect Linux, because it doesn't need
protecting, but to protect WINDOWS machines that might be in contact with
that Linux box.
"PD43" <pauld1943@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> "M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>> I've been surfing the 'net for 15 years and have yet to get my first
>>> virus/malware infestation.
>>
>>I find that seriously hard to believe.
>
> Sorry... it's true. And for probably half of that time I ran without
> virus protection.
>
It has frequently been demonstrated that if you connect a PC to the internet
without a virus checker then the longest it is likely to last before a virus
invades is around 15 minutes. And that is without even opening Internet
Explorer at all. Many of these viruses and worms simply look for
unprotected ports and install themselves. Many have become infected between
the time they install windows and installing the virus scanner and firewall
(though windows XP SP2 has alleviated the position a little by including a
firewall - of sorts).
> It's simple: I don't visit strange websites, don't download from
> unknown sites, don't do file-sharing and I play safe with email.
>
It is not necessary to do any of these things to get infected. For all you
know, your PC could have been silently infected with a bot of some sort and
is even as you read interfering with something somewhere - and you can be
totally unaware of it.
>>Even if you keep your virus checker
>>as up to date as you can, there is always a short interval between the
>>release of a new virus and the virus checker gaining the ability to detect
>>it. As for other malware: have you tried a scan with AdAware and other
>>similar products? They usually turn up all sorts of surprises (and plenty
>>of them to boot).
>
> Stopped doing that a couple years ago... all it ever found was
> "tracking cookies". I now regularly check my cookie file and delete
> those I don't want (CC Cleaner).
I don't do anything you don't do except keep my protection up to date, but
every malware scan still turns up a lot more than just 'tracking cookies'.
>It has frequently been demonstrated that if you connect a PC to the internet
>without a virus checker then the longest it is likely to last before a virus
>invades is around 15 minutes.
Whatta bunch of bull****.
>> Stopped doing that a couple years ago... all it ever found was
>> "tracking cookies". I now regularly check my cookie file and delete
>> those I don't want (CC Cleaner).
>
>I don't do anything you don't do except keep my protection up to date, but
>every malware scan still turns up a lot more than just 'tracking cookies'.
Your problem, not mine. You are obviously more active visiting
strange websites than I am.
"PD43" <pauld1943@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> "M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>>It has frequently been demonstrated that if you connect a PC to the
>>internet
>>without a virus checker then the longest it is likely to last before a
>>virus
>>invades is around 15 minutes.
>
> Whatta bunch of bull****.
>
I can only assume that you believe that the only way malware can get to your
machine is if you visit a web site that carries that malware (that is
certainly the vein of your postings). Believe me, sunshine, that just ain't
the case. Although much malware does work that way, an equal or larger
number of species does not. These things can propagate themselves without
any help or assistance from you or I.
A few years ago we had the dubious privilege of watching a self replicating
worm spreading around our network of PCs without any of them looking at
anything on the internet or intranet. It might have been difficult to keep
up except that it actually slowed down probably due to all the network
traffic each copy was generating looking for new uninfected machines to
transfer itself to. It took a couple of hours to do the whole network of
several thousand machines, but it's probably accurate to say that the
infection also spread to other machines and networks conected to the
planetary network.
"Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Lou wrote:
>> Does anyone know what the above Subject phrase is all about?
>> It appears when I access the Internet at the end of the page name.
>> For instance: The top line of my home page reads "(My ISP) Start
>> Page - MonaRonaDona"
>> It continues to appear on all pages that I access.
>
> Somebody added it to your Titlebar - likely through registry/group policy.
>
> Look in your registry:
>
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main
> "Window Title"=
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
Many thanks. Title removed.
Was it a virus that placed it on my computer?
Lou
Lou wrote:
> Does anyone know what the above Subject phrase is all about?
> It appears when I access the Internet at the end of the page name.
> For instance: The top line of my home page reads "(My ISP) Start
> Page - MonaRonaDona"
> It continues to appear on all pages that I access.
Shenan Stanley wrote:
> Somebody added it to your Titlebar - likely through registry/group
> policy.
> Look in your registry:
>
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main
> "Window Title"=
Lou wrote:
> Many thanks. Title removed.
> Was it a virus that placed it on my computer?
Virus installed applicatioon, malware. I should have stated,
"Somebody/something added it to your Titlebar - likely through
registry/group policy."
Most of the buzz on it points to some software called, "Unigray Antivirus".
Did you install that lately?
Have you rebooted and made sure the title does not get 'put back'?
"M.I.5¾" <no.one@no.where.NO_SPAM.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "PD43" <pauld1943@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>> "MAP" <mikepawlak2REM@OVEhotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> Without Spywareblaster: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/176497
>>>
>>>Nice but that doesn't stop crap from installing on your system as well.
>>
>> I've been surfing the 'net for 15 years and have yet to get my first
>> virus/malware infestation.
>
> I find that seriously hard to believe.
I'll say the same thing PD43 did. I have twice inserted an infected diskette
into the drive (both times were years ago), but both times my anti-virus
software alerted me and the diskette was taken out before any damage was
done. Other than that, nothing.
> Even if you keep your virus checker as up to date as you can, there is
> always a short interval between the release of a new virus and the virus
> checker gaining the ability to detect it. As for other malware: have you
> tried a scan with AdAware and other similar products? They usually turn
> up all sorts of surprises (and plenty of them to boot).
I run an anti-virus program and six different anti-spyware programs, in
addition to a firewall. In my case, nothing more than Tracking Cookies has
ever been found.
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