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Old 08-26-2008, 04:24 AM
LMO
 
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Default GoBack vs Restore

Aloha all.
I have been using GoBack since way before Symantec stole it. I like it, as
it simply rolls back my system and drives to before any unfortunate event or
virus, etc. Right now I have both GoBack and System Restore running. I
realize this is redundant, and wonder which is the better one to keep
running. I have hit points with Restore where it is unable to restore to a
point. never happened with GoBack.
Just curious on this. Any opinions?
Thanks.


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Old 08-26-2008, 04:34 AM
Bill in Co.
 
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Default Re: GoBack vs Restore

LMO wrote:
> Aloha all.
> I have been using GoBack since way before Symantec stole it. I like it, as
> it simply rolls back my system and drives to before any unfortunate event
> or
> virus, etc. Right now I have both GoBack and System Restore running. I
> realize this is redundant, and wonder which is the better one to keep
> running. I have hit points with Restore where it is unable to restore to a
> point. never happened with GoBack.
> Just curious on this. Any opinions?
> Thanks.


Neither. Best insurance is using Acronis True Image, to make a system
backup on another HD.


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Old 08-26-2008, 02:30 PM
David B.
 
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Default Re: GoBack vs Restore

Neither of those options will protect you against a hard drive crash, follow
Bill's suggestion.

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"LMO" <gcorlin@hawaii.rr.como> wrote in message
news:g8vt1n$c9a$1@aioe.org...
> Aloha all.
> I have been using GoBack since way before Symantec stole it. I like it, as
> it simply rolls back my system and drives to before any unfortunate event
> or virus, etc. Right now I have both GoBack and System Restore running. I
> realize this is redundant, and wonder which is the better one to keep
> running. I have hit points with Restore where it is unable to restore to a
> point. never happened with GoBack.
> Just curious on this. Any opinions?
> Thanks.
>


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Old 08-26-2008, 03:16 PM
Twayne
 
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Default Re: GoBack vs Restore

> Aloha all.
> I have been using GoBack since way before Symantec stole it. I like
> it, as it simply rolls back my system and drives to before any
> unfortunate event or virus, etc. Right now I have both GoBack and
> System Restore running. I realize this is redundant, and wonder which
> is the better one to keep running. I have hit points with Restore
> where it is unable to restore to a point. never happened with GoBack.
> Just curious on this. Any opinions?
> Thanks.


That's a reasonable setup when you don't have imaging or backup software
to run. I used to use System REstore Points first for some problems and
if that didn't work then I'd use GoBack. It is not unusual to have
system restore points that won't work for one reason or another. I
never noticed any difference in that when I used GoBack along with them.
It's not redundant because System Restore only restores system files
where GoBack restores everything on the drive that has changed,
including non-system files (data). That's why it provides a file
recovery option after the rollback, in order to get back any data that
may not have existed then.
You do want to dispense with GoBack if you go to imaging software
though; they don't play nicely together.

HTH


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Old 08-26-2008, 06:02 PM
Panic
 
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Default Re: GoBack vs Restore

System Restore only restores System files while GoBack can restore all files
including non system programs and files that you created. GoBack has saved
my bacon on numerous occasions. I still have System Restore available and
use True Image to produce an image on my USB hard drive in case my internal
hard drive becomes unavailable. I also copy critical folders directly to my
USB hard drive. I backup Quicken that way and use OEQB to backup Outlook
Express data.

While GoBack is an excellent protective device it is important to read the
details about its operation. It is very "jealous" of any other program
trying to access your hard drive. If your hard drive becomes inaccessible
you must hit the space bar during initial bootup when the GoBack info
appears. Then you must elect to start your computer without GoBack. Then
insert your bootable disk or CD and now boot. By eliminating GoBack this
way your bootable disk can now access the hard drive that was previously
unavailable due to GoBack.

Any time I am about to load a new program or make a major change on my
computer I write down the exact time and date. Then if I find that new
change has caused a problem I use GoBack to totally return my computer back
to how it was at that time before I made the changetotally.

"LMO" <gcorlin@hawaii.rr.como> wrote in message
news:g8vt1n$c9a$1@aioe.org...
> Aloha all.
> I have been using GoBack since way before Symantec stole it. I like it, as
> it simply rolls back my system and drives to before any unfortunate event
> or virus, etc. Right now I have both GoBack and System Restore running. I
> realize this is redundant, and wonder which is the better one to keep
> running. I have hit points with Restore where it is unable to restore to a
> point. never happened with GoBack.
> Just curious on this. Any opinions?
> Thanks.
>



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Old 08-26-2008, 06:22 PM
LMO
 
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Default Re: GoBack vs Restore

Panic; thanks for the feedback. Can I use True Image with GoBack running, or
do I need to disable GoBack first?

"Panic" <smartwit@home.com> wrote in message
news:OmRN715BJHA.2712@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> System Restore only restores System files while GoBack can restore all
> files including non system programs and files that you created. GoBack
> has saved my bacon on numerous occasions. I still have System Restore
> available and use True Image to produce an image on my USB hard drive in
> case my internal hard drive becomes unavailable. I also copy critical
> folders directly to my USB hard drive. I backup Quicken that way and use
> OEQB to backup Outlook Express data.
>
> While GoBack is an excellent protective device it is important to read the
> details about its operation. It is very "jealous" of any other program
> trying to access your hard drive. If your hard drive becomes inaccessible
> you must hit the space bar during initial bootup when the GoBack info
> appears. Then you must elect to start your computer without GoBack. Then
> insert your bootable disk or CD and now boot. By eliminating GoBack this
> way your bootable disk can now access the hard drive that was previously
> unavailable due to GoBack.
>
> Any time I am about to load a new program or make a major change on my
> computer I write down the exact time and date. Then if I find that new
> change has caused a problem I use GoBack to totally return my computer
> back to how it was at that time before I made the changetotally.
>
> "LMO" <gcorlin@hawaii.rr.como> wrote in message
> news:g8vt1n$c9a$1@aioe.org...
>> Aloha all.
>> I have been using GoBack since way before Symantec stole it. I like it,
>> as it simply rolls back my system and drives to before any unfortunate
>> event or virus, etc. Right now I have both GoBack and System Restore
>> running. I realize this is redundant, and wonder which is the better one
>> to keep running. I have hit points with Restore where it is unable to
>> restore to a point. never happened with GoBack.
>> Just curious on this. Any opinions?
>> Thanks.
>>

>
>



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Old 08-27-2008, 12:53 PM
Howard
 
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Default Re: GoBack vs Restore

You have to disable GoBack in order to create a WORKING image with
True Image. If GoBack is not disabled, the image will be created, but
it will not work when you try to restore a disk. -- Howard


On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 07:22:31 -1000, "LMO" <gcorlin@hawaii.rr.como>
wrotG:

>Panic; thanks for the feedback. Can I use True Image with GoBack running, or
>do I need to disable GoBack first?
>
>"Panic" <smartwit@home.com> wrote in message
>news:OmRN715BJHA.2712@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> System Restore only restores System files while GoBack can restore all
>> files including non system programs and files that you created. GoBack
>> has saved my bacon on numerous occasions. I still have System Restore
>> available and use True Image to produce an image on my USB hard drive in
>> case my internal hard drive becomes unavailable. I also copy critical
>> folders directly to my USB hard drive. I backup Quicken that way and use
>> OEQB to backup Outlook Express data.
>>
>> While GoBack is an excellent protective device it is important to read the
>> details about its operation. It is very "jealous" of any other program
>> trying to access your hard drive. If your hard drive becomes inaccessible
>> you must hit the space bar during initial bootup when the GoBack info
>> appears. Then you must elect to start your computer without GoBack. Then
>> insert your bootable disk or CD and now boot. By eliminating GoBack this
>> way your bootable disk can now access the hard drive that was previously
>> unavailable due to GoBack.
>>
>> Any time I am about to load a new program or make a major change on my
>> computer I write down the exact time and date. Then if I find that new
>> change has caused a problem I use GoBack to totally return my computer
>> back to how it was at that time before I made the changetotally.
>>
>> "LMO" <gcorlin@hawaii.rr.como> wrote in message
>> news:g8vt1n$c9a$1@aioe.org...
>>> Aloha all.
>>> I have been using GoBack since way before Symantec stole it. I like it,
>>> as it simply rolls back my system and drives to before any unfortunate
>>> event or virus, etc. Right now I have both GoBack and System Restore
>>> running. I realize this is redundant, and wonder which is the better one
>>> to keep running. I have hit points with Restore where it is unable to
>>> restore to a point. never happened with GoBack.
>>> Just curious on this. Any opinions?
>>> Thanks.
>>>

>>
>>

>

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Old 08-27-2008, 06:55 PM
Twayne
 
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Default Re: GoBack vs Restore

> You have to disable GoBack in order to create a WORKING image with
> True Image. If GoBack is not disabled, the image will be created, but
> it will not work when you try to restore a disk. -- Howard


True. Often GoBack will also stop working and will lose restore points.
You don't need goback with imagine softwrae anyway. And your machine
will boot faster without all that GoBack data to read/write at every
boot.

>
>
> On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 07:22:31 -1000, "LMO" <gcorlin@hawaii.rr.como>
> wrotG:
>
>> Panic; thanks for the feedback. Can I use True Image with GoBack
>> running, or do I need to disable GoBack first?
>>
>> "Panic" <smartwit@home.com> wrote in message
>> news:OmRN715BJHA.2712@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> System Restore only restores System files while GoBack can restore
>>> all files including non system programs and files that you created.
>>> GoBack has saved my bacon on numerous occasions. I still have
>>> System Restore available and use True Image to produce an image on
>>> my USB hard drive in case my internal hard drive becomes
>>> unavailable. I also copy critical folders directly to my USB hard
>>> drive. I backup Quicken that way and use OEQB to backup Outlook
>>> Express data.
>>>
>>> While GoBack is an excellent protective device it is important to
>>> read the details about its operation. It is very "jealous" of any
>>> other program trying to access your hard drive. If your hard drive
>>> becomes inaccessible you must hit the space bar during initial
>>> bootup when the GoBack info appears. Then you must elect to start
>>> your computer without GoBack. Then insert your bootable disk or CD
>>> and now boot. By eliminating GoBack this way your bootable disk
>>> can now access the hard drive that was previously unavailable due
>>> to GoBack.
>>>
>>> Any time I am about to load a new program or make a major change on
>>> my computer I write down the exact time and date. Then if I find
>>> that new change has caused a problem I use GoBack to totally return
>>> my computer back to how it was at that time before I made the
>>> changetotally.
>>>
>>> "LMO" <gcorlin@hawaii.rr.como> wrote in message
>>> news:g8vt1n$c9a$1@aioe.org...
>>>> Aloha all.
>>>> I have been using GoBack since way before Symantec stole it. I
>>>> like it, as it simply rolls back my system and drives to before
>>>> any unfortunate event or virus, etc. Right now I have both GoBack
>>>> and System Restore running. I realize this is redundant, and
>>>> wonder which is the better one to keep running. I have hit points
>>>> with Restore where it is unable to restore to a point. never
>>>> happened with GoBack.
>>>> Just curious on this. Any opinions?
>>>> Thanks.




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Old 08-28-2008, 02:18 AM
Panic
 
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Default Re: GoBack vs Restore

I agree with Howard. You can create your image with GoBack installed and
operating and then in Windows use the Backup Image Browser to recall
anything your stored using Drive Image. But if you lose the use of your
hard drive and want to boot directly to your Drive Image 7 (which I have) CD
you need to disable GoBack on initial boot, choose boot from CD and you can
really only use a backup made when GoBack had been disabled.

I have a large USB external drive. I periodically boot with GoBack disabled
to use Drive Image 7 to make a backup image I can access when booting
directly to my DI 7 CD. After that backup I usually reboot and enable
GoBack again to start its memory. I more frequently update my DI 7 image
with GoBack installed but I realize I can only access that data from a
normal hard drive bootup. I believe True Image would have the same
restrictions. You can review the 2 image systems at
http://www.windowsbbs.com/other-soft...rue-image.html

"Howard" <Howard@Home.com> wrote in message
news:tufab4910lci1tnfsnubseoolban5khem3@4ax.com...
> You have to disable GoBack in order to create a WORKING image with
> True Image. If GoBack is not disabled, the image will be created, but
> it will not work when you try to restore a disk. -- Howard
>
>
> On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 07:22:31 -1000, "LMO" <gcorlin@hawaii.rr.como>
> wrotG:
>
>>Panic; thanks for the feedback. Can I use True Image with GoBack running,
>>or
>>do I need to disable GoBack first?
>>
>>"Panic" <smartwit@home.com> wrote in message
>>news:OmRN715BJHA.2712@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> System Restore only restores System files while GoBack can restore all
>>> files including non system programs and files that you created. GoBack
>>> has saved my bacon on numerous occasions. I still have System Restore
>>> available and use True Image to produce an image on my USB hard drive in
>>> case my internal hard drive becomes unavailable. I also copy critical
>>> folders directly to my USB hard drive. I backup Quicken that way and
>>> use
>>> OEQB to backup Outlook Express data.
>>>
>>> While GoBack is an excellent protective device it is important to read
>>> the
>>> details about its operation. It is very "jealous" of any other program
>>> trying to access your hard drive. If your hard drive becomes
>>> inaccessible
>>> you must hit the space bar during initial bootup when the GoBack info
>>> appears. Then you must elect to start your computer without GoBack.
>>> Then
>>> insert your bootable disk or CD and now boot. By eliminating GoBack
>>> this
>>> way your bootable disk can now access the hard drive that was previously
>>> unavailable due to GoBack.
>>>
>>> Any time I am about to load a new program or make a major change on my
>>> computer I write down the exact time and date. Then if I find that new
>>> change has caused a problem I use GoBack to totally return my computer
>>> back to how it was at that time before I made the changetotally.
>>>
>>> "LMO" <gcorlin@hawaii.rr.como> wrote in message
>>> news:g8vt1n$c9a$1@aioe.org...
>>>> Aloha all.
>>>> I have been using GoBack since way before Symantec stole it. I like it,
>>>> as it simply rolls back my system and drives to before any unfortunate
>>>> event or virus, etc. Right now I have both GoBack and System Restore
>>>> running. I realize this is redundant, and wonder which is the better
>>>> one
>>>> to keep running. I have hit points with Restore where it is unable to
>>>> restore to a point. never happened with GoBack.
>>>> Just curious on this. Any opinions?
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>



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Old 08-28-2008, 02:27 AM
Panic
 
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Default Re: GoBack vs Restore

Well, I don't have any financial interest in GoBack and I've used both
GoBack and RollBack programs. I've used GoBack for about 8 years and have
never had it "stop working" or "lose restore points". Like I said, it is
only my first line of defense. System Restore; Drive Image; and manual
backups on a USB hard drive are all backups to that. I backup Quicken and
Outlook Express (using OEQB) to my external drive.
I see no differing operating speed with GoBack active or disabled. Maybe 15
seconds longer bootup which is a cheap price for the level of backup.

"Twayne" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message
news:uhS8h4GCJHA.2060@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> You have to disable GoBack in order to create a WORKING image with
>> True Image. If GoBack is not disabled, the image will be created, but
>> it will not work when you try to restore a disk. -- Howard

>
> True. Often GoBack will also stop working and will lose restore points.
> You don't need goback with imagine softwrae anyway. And your machine will
> boot faster without all that GoBack data to read/write at every boot.
>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 07:22:31 -1000, "LMO" <gcorlin@hawaii.rr.como>
>> wrotG:
>>
>>> Panic; thanks for the feedback. Can I use True Image with GoBack
>>> running, or do I need to disable GoBack first?
>>>
>>> "Panic" <smartwit@home.com> wrote in message
>>> news:OmRN715BJHA.2712@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> System Restore only restores System files while GoBack can restore
>>>> all files including non system programs and files that you created.
>>>> GoBack has saved my bacon on numerous occasions. I still have
>>>> System Restore available and use True Image to produce an image on
>>>> my USB hard drive in case my internal hard drive becomes
>>>> unavailable. I also copy critical folders directly to my USB hard
>>>> drive. I backup Quicken that way and use OEQB to backup Outlook
>>>> Express data.
>>>>
>>>> While GoBack is an excellent protective device it is important to
>>>> read the details about its operation. It is very "jealous" of any
>>>> other program trying to access your hard drive. If your hard drive
>>>> becomes inaccessible you must hit the space bar during initial
>>>> bootup when the GoBack info appears. Then you must elect to start
>>>> your computer without GoBack. Then insert your bootable disk or CD
>>>> and now boot. By eliminating GoBack this way your bootable disk
>>>> can now access the hard drive that was previously unavailable due
>>>> to GoBack.
>>>>
>>>> Any time I am about to load a new program or make a major change on
>>>> my computer I write down the exact time and date. Then if I find
>>>> that new change has caused a problem I use GoBack to totally return
>>>> my computer back to how it was at that time before I made the
>>>> changetotally.
>>>>
>>>> "LMO" <gcorlin@hawaii.rr.como> wrote in message
>>>> news:g8vt1n$c9a$1@aioe.org...
>>>>> Aloha all.
>>>>> I have been using GoBack since way before Symantec stole it. I
>>>>> like it, as it simply rolls back my system and drives to before
>>>>> any unfortunate event or virus, etc. Right now I have both GoBack
>>>>> and System Restore running. I realize this is redundant, and
>>>>> wonder which is the better one to keep running. I have hit points
>>>>> with Restore where it is unable to restore to a point. never
>>>>> happened with GoBack.
>>>>> Just curious on this. Any opinions?
>>>>> Thanks.

>
>
>



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