chkdsk/f

I store my important data on an external USB Hardrive. When I started the
drive up, I got an error message which advised me that one of my folders was
corrupted, not just a file, but the entire folder. The message advised me to
run chkdsk to recover the files, which I did. Then the message to dismount
the volume appeared and I answered Y to it. With the volume dismounted
message came the message that all open handles to this volume are now
invalid. CHKDSK then proceeded to fix the disk, deleting corrupted files and
then recovering orphaned files. At the end of the run,chkdsk reset the
security id's for some of the files and verified that operation. Then it
inserted data attributes to those files and corrected errors in the master
file table. In other words chkdsk did a fine job, I even have a print out of
what it did. After all was said and done and I re-booted my computer, the
previously corrupt folder, which was fixed by chkdsk, was gone. The entire
directory was gone. The only thing that was left was a ghost folder with
nothing in it. I did a search and nothing came up.
The big question is, what did chkdsk fix and what did it do with an entire
folder ?
I am running Win XP Home Edition.
External drive is a Ximeta, NetDisk NDAS.

Thanks for your feed back,

Paul

"Paul" <Paul@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I store my important data on an external USB Hardrive. When I started the
> drive up, I got an error message which advised me that one of my folders
> was
> corrupted, not just a file, but the entire folder. The message advised me
> to
> run chkdsk to recover the files, which I did. Then the message to dismount
> the volume appeared and I answered Y to it. With the volume dismounted
> message came the message that all open handles to this volume are now
> invalid. CHKDSK then proceeded to fix the disk, deleting corrupted files
> and
> then recovering orphaned files. At the end of the run,chkdsk reset the
> security id's for some of the files and verified that operation. Then it
> inserted data attributes to those files and corrected errors in the master
> file table. In other words chkdsk did a fine job, I even have a print out
> of
> what it did. After all was said and done and I re-booted my computer, the
> previously corrupt folder, which was fixed by chkdsk, was gone. The entire
> directory was gone. The only thing that was left was a ghost folder with
> nothing in it. I did a search and nothing came up.
> The big question is, what did chkdsk fix and what did it do with an entire
> folder ?
> I am running Win XP Home Edition.
> External drive is a Ximeta, NetDisk NDAS.
>
> Thanks for your feed back,
>
> Paul

Don't know what chkdsk did, but what's the problem. Just restore your
important data from your backup.

"Paul" <Paul@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F0A96975-A12F-4901-AD4A-8118A11D6D95@microsoft.com...
>I store my important data on an external USB Hardrive. When I
>started the
> drive up, I got an error message which advised me that one of
> my folders was
> corrupted, not just a file, but the entire folder. The message
> advised me to
> run chkdsk to recover the files, which I did. Then the message
> to dismount
> the volume appeared and I answered Y to it. With the volume
> dismounted
> message came the message that all open handles to this volume
> are now
> invalid. CHKDSK then proceeded to fix the disk, deleting
> corrupted files and
> then recovering orphaned files. At the end of the run,chkdsk
> reset the
> security id's for some of the files and verified that
> operation. Then it
> inserted data attributes to those files and corrected errors
> in the master
> file table. In other words chkdsk did a fine job, I even have
> a print out of
> what it did. After all was said and done and I re-booted my
> computer, the
> previously corrupt folder, which was fixed by chkdsk, was
> gone. The entire
> directory was gone. The only thing that was left was a ghost
> folder with
> nothing in it. I did a search and nothing came up.
> The big question is, what did chkdsk fix and what did it do
> with an entire
> folder ?
> I am running Win XP Home Edition.
> External drive is a Ximeta, NetDisk NDAS.
>
> Thanks for your feed back,
>
> Paul

-
You wanted the corrupt file fixed...that is what it fixed. Carry
on now and re-enter what you lost.
-

So are you suggesting that people should make backups of their backups? And
then, make a copy of the copy of the backup?

How many iterations of a backup in necessary for someone to be truly "backed
up?'

Alan

"Maincat" <steve@nospam.org.uk> wrote in message
news:OvdTkijjHHA.4624@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Don't know what chkdsk did, but what's the problem. Just restore your
> important data from your backup.
>

If that disk was just backups, make new ones.

"Alan" <inthegalaxy@solarsystem.huh> wrote in message
news:O0XSPUljHHA.3656@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> So are you suggesting that people should make backups of their backups?
> And then, make a copy of the copy of the backup?
>
> How many iterations of a backup in necessary for someone to be truly
> "backed up?'
>
> Alan
>
> "Maincat" <steve@nospam.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:OvdTkijjHHA.4624@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Don't know what chkdsk did, but what's the problem. Just restore your
>> important data from your backup.

Where did he say that the files were backups? He didn't. How do you know
they are backups? You don't.


"Alan" <inthegalaxy@solarsystem.huh> wrote in message
news:O0XSPUljHHA.3656@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> So are you suggesting that people should make backups of their backups?
> And then, make a copy of the copy of the backup?
>
> How many iterations of a backup in necessary for someone to be truly
> "backed up?'
>
> Alan
>
> "Maincat" <steve@nospam.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:OvdTkijjHHA.4624@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Don't know what chkdsk did, but what's the problem. Just restore your
>> important data from your backup.
>>
>
>

Paul said:
I store my important data on an external USB Hardrive.

Sounds like a "no backup" situation to me.

Alan wrote:

> So are you suggesting that people should make backups of their backups? And
> then, make a copy of the copy of the backup?
>
> How many iterations of a backup in necessary for someone to be truly "backed
> up?'
>
> Alan
>
> "Maincat" <steve@nospam.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:OvdTkijjHHA.4624@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
>>Don't know what chkdsk did, but what's the problem. Just restore your
>>important data from your backup.
>>
>
>
>

Thanks Doug....
I would love to re-nter what I had lost, but I don't know where it is.
Did chkdsk create some sort of new file? I ran a search for the files I lost
using their file extension syntax, but the files did not show up. Fortunately
I have a scan log listing all the files, the list is 40 pages long and lists
files like Word Documents which I now can't find. Re-entering right now
means, re-typing hundreds of documents of which I have hard copies, in order
to create another database. I am sure they are somewhere, but where. Oh, and
they are not back up files, they are original files stored on an external
harddrive. Virus scan does not show up anything and neither does spyware
scan.

Paul
--
Thank you, Paul


"Doug" wrote:

>
> "Paul" <Paul@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F0A96975-A12F-4901-AD4A-8118A11D6D95@microsoft.com...
> >I store my important data on an external USB Hardrive. When I
> >started the
> > drive up, I got an error message which advised me that one of
> > my folders was
> > corrupted, not just a file, but the entire folder. The message
> > advised me to
> > run chkdsk to recover the files, which I did. Then the message
> > to dismount
> > the volume appeared and I answered Y to it. With the volume
> > dismounted
> > message came the message that all open handles to this volume
> > are now
> > invalid. CHKDSK then proceeded to fix the disk, deleting
> > corrupted files and
> > then recovering orphaned files. At the end of the run,chkdsk
> > reset the
> > security id's for some of the files and verified that
> > operation. Then it
> > inserted data attributes to those files and corrected errors
> > in the master
> > file table. In other words chkdsk did a fine job, I even have
> > a print out of
> > what it did. After all was said and done and I re-booted my
> > computer, the
> > previously corrupt folder, which was fixed by chkdsk, was
> > gone. The entire
> > directory was gone. The only thing that was left was a ghost
> > folder with
> > nothing in it. I did a search and nothing came up.
> > The big question is, what did chkdsk fix and what did it do
> > with an entire
> > folder ?
> > I am running Win XP Home Edition.
> > External drive is a Ximeta, NetDisk NDAS.
> >
> > Thanks for your feed back,
> >
> > Paul
>
> -
> You wanted the corrupt file fixed...that is what it fixed. Carry
> on now and re-enter what you lost.
> -
>
>

"Paul" <Paul@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
>I store my important data on an external USB Hardrive. When I started the
> drive up, I got an error message which advised me that one of my folders
> was
> corrupted, not just a file, but the entire folder. The message advised me
> to
> run chkdsk to recover the files, which I did. Then the message to dismount
> the volume appeared and I answered Y to it. With the volume dismounted
> message came the message that all open handles to this volume are now
> invalid. CHKDSK then proceeded to fix the disk, deleting corrupted files
> and
> then recovering orphaned files. At the end of the run,chkdsk reset the
> security id's for some of the files and verified that operation. Then it
> inserted data attributes to those files and corrected errors in the master
> file table. In other words chkdsk did a fine job, I even have a print out
> of
> what it did. After all was said and done and I re-booted my computer, the
> previously corrupt folder, which was fixed by chkdsk, was gone. The entire
> directory was gone. The only thing that was left was a ghost folder with
> nothing in it. I did a search and nothing came up.
> The big question is, what did chkdsk fix and what did it do with an entire
> folder ?
> I am running Win XP Home Edition.
> External drive is a Ximeta, NetDisk NDAS.


You have experienced one of the problems with chkdsk. In certain
circumstances it can result in data corruption or data loss that is not
recoverable. It also doesn't give any indication of what it did except for
the brief log you can view from event viewer in the application log. Look
for entries of a type winlogon. It won't help you much, though.

Never run chkdsk unless there is a full backup of the data. As a general
rule one should have a backup of all important data at all times.

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

Frank, Maincat and Bob I: All of you are correct about the OP using the
external hard drive for his main data storage media. I shouldn't have
assumed that the external hard drive was his backup.

Alan

"Bob I" <birelan@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:u30E5GnjHHA.504@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Paul said:
> I store my important data on an external USB Hardrive.
>
> Sounds like a "no backup" situation to me.
>
> Alan wrote:
>
>> So are you suggesting that people should make backups of their backups?
>> And then, make a copy of the copy of the backup?
>>
>> How many iterations of a backup in necessary for someone to be truly
>> "backed up?'
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> "Maincat" <steve@nospam.org.uk> wrote in message
>> news:OvdTkijjHHA.4624@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>
>>>Don't know what chkdsk did, but what's the problem. Just restore your
>>>important data from your backup.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>