Cannot END APPLICATIONS

[onetimeonlyposter]

On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 08:33:51 -0800, Andrew Hamilton
<Ahamilton90900@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:56:48 +0000, Jim <bojimbo261@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:13:20 -0800, PRIVATE <none@none.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I am running Windows XP SP3 + all MS patches via auto-update. I am a
>>>VERY experienced PC user.
>>>
>>>In the last few days, my system will not shut down once it has been
>>>running for a few hours. Nor can I end an application by "X"-ing on
>>>the window or selecting FILE | END in the application's main window
>>>
>>>The usual way of forcing an application to end via the Task Manager
>>>also doesn't work.
>>>
>>>Searching the web, there are lots of web pages devoted to Windows
>>>Shutdown, but none apparently to Windows End Application beyond basic
>>>instructions for using Task Manager.
>>>
>>>Can anyone help? I hate to have to do a Windows re-install.
>>>
>>>Thanks.
>>
>>"In the last few days" - installed any new program(s) ?
>
>No.

Replying to my own message, I need to clarify. * I * didn't install
any new programs. But, I have Windows Update set to Auto, and I know
that every few days, if not more frequently, Windows installs patches.

Now, back when I worked for an enterprise software vendor, I learned
that customers don't just install vendor patches automatically. Large,
sophisticated customers test each patch before deploying it
themselves, using in-house servers to distribute the patch across
thousands and thousands of desktops.

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On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 12:08:05 -0800, "Leonard Agoado" <len@mwswire.com>
wrote:

>
>"PRIVATE" <none@none.com> wrote in message
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>> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 07:29:02 -0800, Kemptonian
>> <Kemptonian@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>
>> Yes. Norton Internet Security 2009. Plus Webroot Spy Sweeper.
>
>Private,
>
> If they are both set to scan in real time, disable Spy Sweeper.
>
> Also, Spy Sweeper is notorious for incompatibilities with NIS,
>particularly after major updates.

This is news to me. I'll reconfig the apps to avoid scanning
conflicts.

Thanks.
>
>Regards,
>
>Len Agoado
>agoado@msn.com
>

[onetimeonlyposter]

On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 19:03:02 +0100, "Pegasus [MVP]"
<news@microsoft.com> wrote:


>>
>> x509
>
>About virus scanning: I suggest you get a second opinion by doing a free
>system scan via www.antivirus.com. Look for "House Call".
>
>About memory leaks: The Task Manager will tell you. I had a similar issue
>the other day where the Paging File Usage (visible under the Performance
>tab) climbed from an initial 300 MBytes to 800 or 900 MBytes, causing a
>dramatic drop in performance. In my case the problem was caused by
>repeatedly putting Windows to sleep and waking it up again.
>
>About killing a task: What happens when you use this command from the
>Command Prompt: TaskKill /f /im NameOfApp.exe?

Didn't know that this command existed, but I'm printing out this
message for reference.


>
>Also: Some virus scanners are very intrusive and both NAV and McAfee score a
>frequent mention in this newsgroup. I would physically disconnect the
>machine from the Internet, then use msconfig.exe to disable all virus
>scanner-related tasks and services. Since your problem occurs after 3-4
>hours of idle time, this is an easy test to perform. If you have other
>third-party programs that are resident (e.g. certain background backup
>programs) then you should disable them too.

Funny thing is, the problem seems to have disappeared on its own. I
left the machine on all night and this morning, there were no
problems. I'm going to repeat this test.

Having said that, I will definitely take your suggestion for a second
opinion.