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Old 06-28-2007, 11:44 AM
noob
 
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Default 2 HDD and Login problem?

I got 2 HDD sharing a cpu, both installed with win xp home edition and used
by different user. I used to have mobile rack to switch between the HDD. I
need to know:

1) (2HDD, 2 users) Is there there a way to do a switch between the 2 HDD w/o
using a mobile rack. (HDD1 for User1, HDD2 for User2)

or

2) (1 HDD, 2 users) A way to create a partition whereby only one user can
access one partition allocated to him. Loging in as User1 can only access D:
drive and loging in as User2 can only access E: drive. (eg. C: boot, D: for
User1 only, E: for User2 only)

Currently, what I understand is that if I 2 users and a D: drive both user
can access. The only restriction is User1 cant access the document in C: for
User2.

Thanks in advance!!

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Old 06-28-2007, 05:17 PM
Pegasus \(MVP\)
 
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Default Re: 2 HDD and Login problem?


"noob" <noob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9A539EFE-B601-41DC-AB49-6A9280F2EA7A@microsoft.com...
>I got 2 HDD sharing a cpu, both installed with win xp home edition and used
> by different user. I used to have mobile rack to switch between the HDD. I
> need to know:
>
> 1) (2HDD, 2 users) Is there there a way to do a switch between the 2 HDD
> w/o
> using a mobile rack. (HDD1 for User1, HDD2 for User2)
>
> or
>
> 2) (1 HDD, 2 users) A way to create a partition whereby only one user can
> access one partition allocated to him. Loging in as User1 can only access
> D:
> drive and loging in as User2 can only access E: drive. (eg. C: boot, D:
> for
> User1 only, E: for User2 only)
>
> Currently, what I understand is that if I 2 users and a D: drive both user
> can access. The only restriction is User1 cant access the document in C:
> for
> User2.
>
> Thanks in advance!!
>
> --
> computer idiot


When specifying your requirements, you have to drop
the concept of "Users". It plays no role in this discusssion.
What's important is whether you require a machine with
one WinXP installation or two (=dual booting). Also:
Do you want to use a single disk or both disks?


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Old 06-28-2007, 05:46 PM
noob
 
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--
computer idiot


"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>
> "noob" <noob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:9A539EFE-B601-41DC-AB49-6A9280F2EA7A@microsoft.com...
> >I got 2 HDD sharing a cpu, both installed with win xp home edition and used
> > by different user. I used to have mobile rack to switch between the HDD. I
> > need to know:
> >
> > 1) (2HDD, 2 users) Is there there a way to do a switch between the 2 HDD
> > w/o
> > using a mobile rack. (HDD1 for User1, HDD2 for User2)
> >
> > or
> >
> > 2) (1 HDD, 2 users) A way to create a partition whereby only one user can
> > access one partition allocated to him. Loging in as User1 can only access
> > D:
> > drive and loging in as User2 can only access E: drive. (eg. C: boot, D:
> > for
> > User1 only, E: for User2 only)
> >
> > Currently, what I understand is that if I 2 users and a D: drive both user
> > can access. The only restriction is User1 cant access the document in C:
> > for
> > User2.
> >
> > Thanks in advance!!
> >
> > --
> > computer idiot

>
> When specifying your requirements, you have to drop
> the concept of "Users". It plays no role in this discusssion.
> What's important is whether you require a machine with
> one WinXP installation or two (=dual booting). Also:
> Do you want to use a single disk or both disks?


Fine, no "users" I will use Jack and Jill.

I got 2 HDD sharing a cpu, both installed with win xp home edition and used
by different Jack and Jill. I used to have mobile rack to switch between the
HDD. I
need to know:

1) (2HDD, 1 for Jack and 1 for Jill) Is there there a way to do a switch
between the 2 HDD w/o using a mobile rack. (HDD1 for Jack, HDD2 for Jill).
Each HDD had it own OS.

Or

2) (1 HDD, Both Jack and Jill) A way to create a partition whereby only one
user can
access one partition allocated to him/her. Loging in as Jack can only access
to D:
drive and loging in as Jill can only access E: drive. (eg. C: boot, D: for
Jack only, E: for Jill only). 1 HDD with ONLY 1 OS and 2 LOGIN.

Currently, what I understand is that when Jack or Jill login, they can
access and the document in D: drive and E: drive. The only restriction is
Jack cant access the document in C: drive for Jill (Private).

I did not stated anything about dual boot

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Old 06-28-2007, 07:14 PM
Pegasus \(MVP\)
 
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Default Re: 2 HDD and Login problem?


"noob" <noob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5540CA34-F23A-48E8-8143-780A1D2E512F@microsoft.com...
>
> --
> computer idiot
>
>
> "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
>
>>
>> "noob" <noob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:9A539EFE-B601-41DC-AB49-6A9280F2EA7A@microsoft.com...
>> >I got 2 HDD sharing a cpu, both installed with win xp home edition and
>> >used
>> > by different user. I used to have mobile rack to switch between the
>> > HDD. I
>> > need to know:
>> >
>> > 1) (2HDD, 2 users) Is there there a way to do a switch between the 2
>> > HDD
>> > w/o
>> > using a mobile rack. (HDD1 for User1, HDD2 for User2)
>> >
>> > or
>> >
>> > 2) (1 HDD, 2 users) A way to create a partition whereby only one user
>> > can
>> > access one partition allocated to him. Loging in as User1 can only
>> > access
>> > D:
>> > drive and loging in as User2 can only access E: drive. (eg. C: boot, D:
>> > for
>> > User1 only, E: for User2 only)
>> >
>> > Currently, what I understand is that if I 2 users and a D: drive both
>> > user
>> > can access. The only restriction is User1 cant access the document in
>> > C:
>> > for
>> > User2.
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance!!
>> >
>> > --
>> > computer idiot

>>
>> When specifying your requirements, you have to drop
>> the concept of "Users". It plays no role in this discusssion.
>> What's important is whether you require a machine with
>> one WinXP installation or two (=dual booting). Also:
>> Do you want to use a single disk or both disks?

>
> Fine, no "users" I will use Jack and Jill.
>
> I got 2 HDD sharing a cpu, both installed with win xp home edition and
> used
> by different Jack and Jill. I used to have mobile rack to switch between
> the
> HDD. I
> need to know:
>
> 1) (2HDD, 1 for Jack and 1 for Jill) Is there there a way to do a switch
> between the 2 HDD w/o using a mobile rack. (HDD1 for Jack, HDD2 for Jill).
> Each HDD had it own OS.
>
> Or
>
> 2) (1 HDD, Both Jack and Jill) A way to create a partition whereby only
> one
> user can
> access one partition allocated to him/her. Loging in as Jack can only
> access
> to D:
> drive and loging in as Jill can only access E: drive. (eg. C: boot, D: for
> Jack only, E: for Jill only). 1 HDD with ONLY 1 OS and 2 LOGIN.
>
> Currently, what I understand is that when Jack or Jill login, they can
> access and the document in D: drive and E: drive. The only restriction is
> Jack cant access the document in C: drive for Jill (Private).
>
> I did not stated anything about dual boot
>


Your option 2) is by far the simplest solution:
- Single hard disk
- One logon account for Jack
- One logon account for Jill
- Appropriate access restrictions for folders located on drives
D: and E:.

Access restrictions can be set on drives D: and E: if they
use the NTFS file system. If they use the FAT32 file system
then they must first be converted to NTFS, using convert.exe.

Click Start / Help and look for help on "convert" to see how
it's done.

Click Start / Help and look for help on "permission" to see
how to set permissions. You'll find it under "Removable
Storage", even though your drives are fixed.


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Old 06-29-2007, 11:36 AM
noob
 
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--
computer idiot


"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>
> "noob" <noob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:5540CA34-F23A-48E8-8143-780A1D2E512F@microsoft.com...
> >
> > --
> > computer idiot
> >
> >
> > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "noob" <noob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:9A539EFE-B601-41DC-AB49-6A9280F2EA7A@microsoft.com...
> >> >I got 2 HDD sharing a cpu, both installed with win xp home edition and
> >> >used
> >> > by different user. I used to have mobile rack to switch between the
> >> > HDD. I
> >> > need to know:
> >> >
> >> > 1) (2HDD, 2 users) Is there there a way to do a switch between the 2
> >> > HDD
> >> > w/o
> >> > using a mobile rack. (HDD1 for User1, HDD2 for User2)
> >> >
> >> > or
> >> >
> >> > 2) (1 HDD, 2 users) A way to create a partition whereby only one user
> >> > can
> >> > access one partition allocated to him. Loging in as User1 can only
> >> > access
> >> > D:
> >> > drive and loging in as User2 can only access E: drive. (eg. C: boot, D:
> >> > for
> >> > User1 only, E: for User2 only)
> >> >
> >> > Currently, what I understand is that if I 2 users and a D: drive both
> >> > user
> >> > can access. The only restriction is User1 cant access the document in
> >> > C:
> >> > for
> >> > User2.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks in advance!!
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > computer idiot
> >>
> >> When specifying your requirements, you have to drop
> >> the concept of "Users". It plays no role in this discusssion.
> >> What's important is whether you require a machine with
> >> one WinXP installation or two (=dual booting). Also:
> >> Do you want to use a single disk or both disks?

> >
> > Fine, no "users" I will use Jack and Jill.
> >
> > I got 2 HDD sharing a cpu, both installed with win xp home edition and
> > used
> > by different Jack and Jill. I used to have mobile rack to switch between
> > the
> > HDD. I
> > need to know:
> >
> > 1) (2HDD, 1 for Jack and 1 for Jill) Is there there a way to do a switch
> > between the 2 HDD w/o using a mobile rack. (HDD1 for Jack, HDD2 for Jill).
> > Each HDD had it own OS.
> >
> > Or
> >
> > 2) (1 HDD, Both Jack and Jill) A way to create a partition whereby only
> > one
> > user can
> > access one partition allocated to him/her. Loging in as Jack can only
> > access
> > to D:
> > drive and loging in as Jill can only access E: drive. (eg. C: boot, D: for
> > Jack only, E: for Jill only). 1 HDD with ONLY 1 OS and 2 LOGIN.
> >
> > Currently, what I understand is that when Jack or Jill login, they can
> > access and the document in D: drive and E: drive. The only restriction is
> > Jack cant access the document in C: drive for Jill (Private).
> >
> > I did not stated anything about dual boot
> >

>
> Your option 2) is by far the simplest solution:
> - Single hard disk
> - One logon account for Jack
> - One logon account for Jill
> - Appropriate access restrictions for folders located on drives
> D: and E:.
>
> Access restrictions can be set on drives D: and E: if they
> use the NTFS file system. If they use the FAT32 file system
> then they must first be converted to NTFS, using convert.exe.
>
> Click Start / Help and look for help on "convert" to see how
> it's done.
>
> Click Start / Help and look for help on "permission" to see
> how to set permissions. You'll find it under "Removable
> Storage", even though your drives are fixed.
>
>

\\Does this apply to Home edition or Pro?
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Old 06-29-2007, 02:58 PM
noob
 
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Default Re: 2 HDD and Login problem?

Solved option 2.

I boot in as administrator in safe mode. go to my computer. right click on
the selected D: drive. click on security tab and add Jill and deny Jill
access to D: drive. did the same for E: but add Jack and deny Jack access to
E: Drive.

Anyone can solve Option 1???

Thanks!
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Old 06-29-2007, 08:08 PM
Pegasus \(MVP\)
 
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Default Re: 2 HDD and Login problem?


"noob" <noob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F716BFC1-EE69-43C7-84B6-69B2C8C1433B@microsoft.com...
> Solved option 2.
>
> I boot in as administrator in safe mode. go to my computer. right click on
> the selected D: drive. click on security tab and add Jill and deny Jill
> access to D: drive. did the same for E: but add Jack and deny Jack access
> to
> E: Drive.
>
> Anyone can solve Option 1???
>
> Thanks!


Option 1 (Launching one or the other installation of Windows,
each on its own disk) is tedious to implement retrospectively
unless you decide to use a third-party boot manager such as
XOSL. With such a boot manager Option 1 is easy but only
after you have spent the time becoming familiar with its inner
workings. During the learning period you are likely to wipe
some or all of the existing OSs.

If you use the native boot manager for Option 1 then you risk
incorrect system drive letters and/or mixed up systems, with
installation A using parts of installation B and vice versa.
Not recommended if you're a novice to multi-booting.


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Old 06-30-2007, 12:34 AM
Uncle Grumpy
 
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noob <noob@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>--
>computer idiot


Well said.
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Old 06-30-2007, 12:41 AM
C.Joseph Drayton
 
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Default Re: 2 HDD and Login problem?

noob wrote:
> I got 2 HDD sharing a cpu, both installed with win xp home edition and used
> by different user. I used to have mobile rack to switch between the HDD. I
> need to know:
>
> 1) (2HDD, 2 users) Is there there a way to do a switch between the 2 HDD w/o
> using a mobile rack. (HDD1 for User1, HDD2 for User2)
>
> or
>
> 2) (1 HDD, 2 users) A way to create a partition whereby only one user can
> access one partition allocated to him. Loging in as User1 can only access D:
> drive and loging in as User2 can only access E: drive. (eg. C: boot, D: for
> User1 only, E: for User2 only)
>
> Currently, what I understand is that if I 2 users and a D: drive both user
> can access. The only restriction is User1 cant access the document in C: for
> User2.
>
> Thanks in advance!!
>


Hi Noob,

I am not sure exactly why you would want to do this but if
you want to do what your asking . . . Yes it is possible.

All you do is install the first copy of Windows. This will
be installed to DSK0.

Do not remove this drive or change its jumpers. Then do a
second install of Windows. When you do the second install,
make sure to tell it to install on the DSK1.

What will happen is the second install of Windows will
install a boot loader. The boot loader information will be
in the boot.ini file. Edit the boot.ini file so each version
of Windows has a unique name. So long as you password
protect each install of Windows. They will be totally
separate and independent of each other.

The first version will be on the DRV:C and the other will be
on DRV. You don't really need to worry about the DRV
identifiers since Windows will take care of that.

Ciao . . . C.Joseph

"A promise is nothing more than an attempt,
to respond to an unreasonable request."

http://blog.tlerma.com/
(A Windows professional's view of entering the Linux world)
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Old 06-30-2007, 04:22 AM
noob
 
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> Option 1 (Launching one or the other installation of Windows,
> each on its own disk) is tedious to implement retrospectively
> unless you decide to use a third-party boot manager such as
> XOSL. With such a boot manager Option 1 is easy but only
> after you have spent the time becoming familiar with its inner
> workings. During the learning period you are likely to wipe
> some or all of the existing OSs.
>
> If you use the native boot manager for Option 1 then you risk
> incorrect system drive letters and/or mixed up systems, with
> installation A using parts of installation B and vice versa.
> Not recommended if you're a novice to multi-booting.
>

Thanks! Seems like the safest way to have option 1 is still to have a mobile
rack.
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