For a long time i ran a diffrent os than recently I decided to install xp on
my machine , because the campus I attend here requires xp.
So I recently went out and bought a windows xp full installation disc. (lost
information for last disc I had)
Using the windows xp disc (oem edition) I format my hd and allow xp to
create a new partition .. the issue comes after the first reboot it will
start to install, and during the process of "installing devices" the setup
will stop with a error message of "out of range" or "frequency out of range"
depending on monitor used. approximitly with 34 minutes left every time.
I found the self help on microsoft webpage stating forcing standard hal ,
which had no sucess (f5 or f7)
The video card is a geforce4, I know windows xp will run on the system
because long ago I had windows xp installed on this system.
Any suggestions or help would be very much appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Could be because you have an OEM disk - support is to be provided by that
manufacturer.
"Theo" <Theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3905C625-013F-47B4-BFEB-495872192BE5@microsoft.com...
> For a long time i ran a diffrent os than recently I decided to install xp
> on
> my machine , because the campus I attend here requires xp.
>
> So I recently went out and bought a windows xp full installation disc.
> (lost
> information for last disc I had)
>
> Using the windows xp disc (oem edition) I format my hd and allow xp to
> create a new partition .. the issue comes after the first reboot it will
> start to install, and during the process of "installing devices" the setup
> will stop with a error message of "out of range" or "frequency out of
> range"
> depending on monitor used. approximitly with 34 minutes left every time.
>
> I found the self help on microsoft webpage stating forcing standard hal ,
> which had no sucess (f5 or f7)
>
> The video card is a geforce4, I know windows xp will run on the system
> because long ago I had windows xp installed on this system.
>
> Any suggestions or help would be very much appreciated.
> Thanks in advance.
There is exactly nothing diffrent from oem edition and retail version.
OEM edition is usually sold companys to install on computers they build.
There is no diffrence from oem besides that.... Call local tech support in
your area buddy and they could tell you the exact same thing.
Here is something that might shock you... If you have a retail disc and a
oem disc...
You can use the retail disc to install and the oem activation code to
activate it.
There is no diffrence!
For it being oem there is no direct windows xp support because they want you
to pay 100$ extra for the ability to get support. (yet you still have to pay
for support)
The same drivers installed with a retail version is installed with a oem
version.
Just like a retail version the oem version supports hal installation for
installation without the drivers from each of the companys webpages (for the
hardware)
So please explain to me whats the diffrence? I am waiting?
Rude... sob...
"Jerry" wrote:
> Could be because you have an OEM disk - support is to be provided by that
> manufacturer.
>
> "Theo" <Theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:3905C625-013F-47B4-BFEB-495872192BE5@microsoft.com...
> > For a long time i ran a diffrent os than recently I decided to install xp
> > on
> > my machine , because the campus I attend here requires xp.
> >
> > So I recently went out and bought a windows xp full installation disc.
> > (lost
> > information for last disc I had)
> >
> > Using the windows xp disc (oem edition) I format my hd and allow xp to
> > create a new partition .. the issue comes after the first reboot it will
> > start to install, and during the process of "installing devices" the setup
> > will stop with a error message of "out of range" or "frequency out of
> > range"
> > depending on monitor used. approximitly with 34 minutes left every time.
> >
> > I found the self help on microsoft webpage stating forcing standard hal ,
> > which had no sucess (f5 or f7)
> >
> > The video card is a geforce4, I know windows xp will run on the system
> > because long ago I had windows xp installed on this system.
> >
> > Any suggestions or help would be very much appreciated.
> > Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
Theo wrote:
<snip>
> Here is something that might shock you... If you have a retail disc
> and a oem disc...
>
> You can use the retail disc to install and the oem activation code
> to activate it.
>
> There is no diffrence!
Only if you hack and reburn the CD.
An OEM CD will not take a retail product code and vice-versa.
There is also the licensing/support factors - which makes up the meat and
potatoes of the difference between an OEM licensed and Retail licensed MS
product. However - just concentrating on the CD - the difference is limited
to the product keys one or the other will accept (unhacked.)
A couple of things to try;
Reseat the vid card, or move to a different slot if one avilable
Set bios to defaults, I assume your mobo doesnt have on board vid that
requires disabling?
You said you formatted using the install cd, did you first delete any
partitions?
"Theo" <Theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1AD885BD-13BB-410D-BBEA-26E6CC0067FB@microsoft.com...
> There is exactly nothing diffrent from oem edition and retail version.
>
> OEM edition is usually sold companys to install on computers they build.
>
> There is no diffrence from oem besides that.... Call local tech support in
> your area buddy and they could tell you the exact same thing.
>
> Here is something that might shock you... If you have a retail disc and a
> oem disc...
> You can use the retail disc to install and the oem activation code to
> activate it.
> There is no diffrence!
>
> For it being oem there is no direct windows xp support because they want
> you
> to pay 100$ extra for the ability to get support. (yet you still have to
> pay
> for support)
>
> The same drivers installed with a retail version is installed with a oem
> version.
>
> Just like a retail version the oem version supports hal installation for
> installation without the drivers from each of the companys webpages (for
> the
> hardware)
>
> So please explain to me whats the diffrence? I am waiting?
>
> Rude... sob...
>
> "Jerry" wrote:
>> Could be because you have an OEM disk - support is to be provided by that
>> manufacturer.
>>
>> "Theo" <Theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:3905C625-013F-47B4-BFEB-495872192BE5@microsoft.com...
>> > For a long time i ran a diffrent os than recently I decided to install
>> > xp
>> > on
>> > my machine , because the campus I attend here requires xp.
>> >
>> > So I recently went out and bought a windows xp full installation disc.
>> > (lost
>> > information for last disc I had)
>> >
>> > Using the windows xp disc (oem edition) I format my hd and allow xp to
>> > create a new partition .. the issue comes after the first reboot it
>> > will
>> > start to install, and during the process of "installing devices" the
>> > setup
>> > will stop with a error message of "out of range" or "frequency out of
>> > range"
>> > depending on monitor used. approximitly with 34 minutes left every
>> > time.
>> >
>> > I found the self help on microsoft webpage stating forcing standard hal
>> > ,
>> > which had no sucess (f5 or f7)
>> >
>> > The video card is a geforce4, I know windows xp will run on the system
>> > because long ago I had windows xp installed on this system.
>> >
>> > Any suggestions or help would be very much appreciated.
>> > Thanks in advance.
>>
>>
>>
In news:3905C625-013F-47B4-BFEB-495872192BE5@microsoft.com,
Theo <Theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> For a long time i ran a diffrent os than recently I decided
> to install xp on
> my machine , because the campus I attend here requires xp.
>
> So I recently went out and bought a windows xp full
> installation disc. (lost
> information for last disc I had)
>
> Using the windows xp disc (oem edition) I format my hd and
> allow xp to
> create a new partition .. the issue comes after the first
> reboot it will
> start to install, and during the process of "installing
> devices" the setup
> will stop with a error message of "out of range" or
> "frequency out of range"
> depending on monitor used. approximitly with 34 minutes left
> every time.
>
> I found the self help on microsoft webpage stating forcing
> standard hal ,
> which had no sucess (f5 or f7)
>
> The video card is a geforce4, I know windows xp will run on
> the system
> because long ago I had windows xp installed on this system.
>
> Any suggestions or help would be very much appreciated.
> Thanks in advance.
If you also have integrated video, switch to integrated after removing
the video card.
Try a different monitor.
"there is no direct windows xp support because they want you to pay
100$ extra"
Like nearly all businesses, Microsoft wants to be paid for what they
do.
OEM is cheaper and thus comes without free Microsoft support.
Retail comes with FREE Microsoft installation support.
Support for OEM, if any, comes from the seller.
One of the many reasons you paid less for your OEM than others pay for
retail.
"Theo" <Theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1AD885BD-13BB-410D-BBEA-26E6CC0067FB@microsoft.com...
> There is exactly nothing diffrent from oem edition and retail
> version.
>
> OEM edition is usually sold companys to install on computers they
> build.
>
> There is no diffrence from oem besides that.... Call local tech
> support in
> your area buddy and they could tell you the exact same thing.
>
> Here is something that might shock you... If you have a retail disc
> and a
> oem disc...
> You can use the retail disc to install and the oem activation code
> to
> activate it.
> There is no diffrence!
>
> For it being oem there is no direct windows xp support because they
> want you
> to pay 100$ extra for the ability to get support. (yet you still
> have to pay
> for support)
>
> The same drivers installed with a retail version is installed with a
> oem
> version.
>
> Just like a retail version the oem version supports hal installation
> for
> installation without the drivers from each of the companys webpages
> (for the
> hardware)
>
> So please explain to me whats the diffrence? I am waiting?
>
> Rude... sob...
>
> "Jerry" wrote:
>> Could be because you have an OEM disk - support is to be provided
>> by that
>> manufacturer.
>>
>> "Theo" <Theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:3905C625-013F-47B4-BFEB-495872192BE5@microsoft.com...
>> > For a long time i ran a diffrent os than recently I decided to
>> > install xp
>> > on
>> > my machine , because the campus I attend here requires xp.
>> >
>> > So I recently went out and bought a windows xp full installation
>> > disc.
>> > (lost
>> > information for last disc I had)
>> >
>> > Using the windows xp disc (oem edition) I format my hd and allow
>> > xp to
>> > create a new partition .. the issue comes after the first reboot
>> > it will
>> > start to install, and during the process of "installing devices"
>> > the setup
>> > will stop with a error message of "out of range" or "frequency
>> > out of
>> > range"
>> > depending on monitor used. approximitly with 34 minutes left
>> > every time.
>> >
>> > I found the self help on microsoft webpage stating forcing
>> > standard hal ,
>> > which had no sucess (f5 or f7)
>> >
>> > The video card is a geforce4, I know windows xp will run on the
>> > system
>> > because long ago I had windows xp installed on this system.
>> >
>> > Any suggestions or help would be very much appreciated.
>> > Thanks in advance.
>>
>>
>>
Well compatablity isn't the issue with the card (Geforce4 mmx) the vid card
is made for windows xp.
I have had a previously installed windows xp on this system (without
changing the hardware setup), but than i ran linux for a long time... now
planned on installing windows xp again and poof... the disc is scratch and i
no longer have my activation information.... SO...
"If you also have integrated video, switch to integrated after removing
the video card.
Try a different monitor. "
No integrated video..
I have tried different monitors .. Both crt's one from a emachine and one
from the originally built comp (like 24 inch screen)
"A couple of things to try;
Reseat the vid card, or move to a different slot if one avilable"
(The above i have not tried but can not see the reasoning behind it...)
You think the hardware ports are getting interfered by some other hardware?
If that was the case the system would have never had a os on it...
"Set bios to defaults, I assume your mobo doesnt have on board vid that
requires disabling?"
Yes, my bios settings are default and my motherboard doesn't have on board
vid.
"You said you formatted using the install cd, did you first delete any
partitions?"
Yes, I formatted the entire hard drive. First deleting the partitions than
formating the entire size of the hard drive (from exp i know if later i wish
to dual boot you must install windows first.)
Retail = Ability to call technical support over the phone or directly email
them about installation problems free (anything else costs money)
OEM = No free technical support from MS. (Self help, Internet forums,news
groups, Local tech shop ) ect... if you need help or call MS for 59.95 (oddly
enough still cheaper than diffrence of retail and oem? OEM= ~$90... Retail =
~$200 , diffrence of ~$100, which is what cost of 2 calls?)
Most small companys use oem ... why? Cheaper with legal licenses...
Thank you to some of you for trying to come up with some ideas.. to the rest
Its not like what I am doing is ILLEGAL its COMPLETELY LEGAL! geez... flame
off please... I bought my version of windows from a store like everyone
else...
When i come up with the issue i will post back incase anyone else ever has
this problem.
'Reseat vid card or move to a different slot'
For some reasons, in which I'm not entirely sure, the win installation (or
card) can sometimes be brought back to life by moving it to a different
slot. (possibly something to do with interupts)
I have experienced this myself with a card (not vid) that win refused to
recognise, I moved it to another slot and it was fine
"Theo" <Theo@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6D63C25D-28D7-4A09-BB0E-886D80EC9BFA@microsoft.com...
> Well compatablity isn't the issue with the card (Geforce4 mmx) the vid
> card
> is made for windows xp.
>
> I have had a previously installed windows xp on this system (without
> changing the hardware setup), but than i ran linux for a long time... now
> planned on installing windows xp again and poof... the disc is scratch and
> i
> no longer have my activation information.... SO...
>
> "If you also have integrated video, switch to integrated after removing
> the video card.
> Try a different monitor. "
> No integrated video..
>
> I have tried different monitors .. Both crt's one from a emachine and one
> from the originally built comp (like 24 inch screen)
>
> "A couple of things to try;
> Reseat the vid card, or move to a different slot if one avilable"
> (The above i have not tried but can not see the reasoning behind it...)
> You think the hardware ports are getting interfered by some other
> hardware?
> If that was the case the system would have never had a os on it...
>
> "Set bios to defaults, I assume your mobo doesnt have on board vid that
> requires disabling?"
> Yes, my bios settings are default and my motherboard doesn't have on board
> vid.
>
> "You said you formatted using the install cd, did you first delete any
> partitions?"
> Yes, I formatted the entire hard drive. First deleting the partitions than
> formating the entire size of the hard drive (from exp i know if later i
> wish
> to dual boot you must install windows first.)
>
> Retail = Ability to call technical support over the phone or directly
> email
> them about installation problems free (anything else costs money)
>
> OEM = No free technical support from MS. (Self help, Internet forums,news
> groups, Local tech shop ) ect... if you need help or call MS for 59.95
> (oddly
> enough still cheaper than diffrence of retail and oem? OEM= ~$90... Retail
> =
> ~$200 , diffrence of ~$100, which is what cost of 2 calls?)
>
> Most small companys use oem ... why? Cheaper with legal licenses...
>
> Thank you to some of you for trying to come up with some ideas.. to the
> rest
> Its not like what I am doing is ILLEGAL its COMPLETELY LEGAL! geez...
> flame
> off please... I bought my version of windows from a store like everyone
> else...
>
>
> When i come up with the issue i will post back incase anyone else ever has
> this problem.
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