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Old 10-30-2009, 02:12 PM
JimL
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Default Virus generalities

XP Pro, SP3, etc.

You run 3 major anti-virus programs and come up clean. Then you run a
fourth one and it lists 59 trojans.

What do you think about that fourth anti-virus.

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Old 10-30-2009, 02:29 PM
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JimL wrote:
> XP Pro, SP3, etc.


I have no idea what "etc." means in this context! I doubt anybody else
does either.

> You run 3 major anti-virus programs and come up clean. Then you run a
> fourth one and it lists 59 trojans.
>
> What do you think about that fourth anti-virus.


Is this a hypothetical? Or is this something that actually happened to
you? If the latter, which three programs didn't find anything? And which
program claimed to find 59 trojans? And what are some of the names of
these trojans (five would be plenty)?

If it's a hypothetical, my guess would be the fourth program was a rogue
antipyware program and it would also pop up windows constantly urging
you to purchase the means to get rid of the "trojans." Then again,
there's not enough information, so I have no idea!


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Old 10-30-2009, 07:50 PM
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"Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
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> JimL wrote:
>> XP Pro, SP3, etc.

>
> I have no idea what "etc." means in this context! I doubt anybody else
> does either.


Beside the point.

>> You run 3 major anti-virus programs and come up clean. Then you run a
>> fourth one and it lists 59 trojans.
>>
>> What do you think about that fourth anti-virus.

>
> Is this a hypothetical? Or is this something that actually happened to
> you?


It happened.

> If the latter, which three programs didn't find anything?


Actually four. Avira, a-Squared, SuperantiSpyware and Microsoft MSRT. All
ran at full scan and MSRT took an hour and a half on around 30 GB.

> And which program claimed to find 59 trojans?


MalwareBytes

> And what are some of the names of these trojans (five would be plenty)?


Hm, it isn't real specific. It listed 6 as Trojan.Zlob, 1 as
Rogue.Multiple, an Adware.Hotbar and the rest as Trojan.Agent.

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Old 10-30-2009, 08:15 PM
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Not hard to believe that MSRT didn't find anything. I would tend to believe
what Malwarebytes is telling you, but I'd visit their support forum for more
targeted assistance.

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"JimL" <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote in message
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> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
> news:OclOCUWWKHA.3404@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> JimL wrote:
>>> XP Pro, SP3, etc.

>>
>> I have no idea what "etc." means in this context! I doubt anybody else
>> does either.

>
> Beside the point.
>
>>> You run 3 major anti-virus programs and come up clean. Then you run a
>>> fourth one and it lists 59 trojans.
>>>
>>> What do you think about that fourth anti-virus.

>>
>> Is this a hypothetical? Or is this something that actually happened to
>> you?

>
> It happened.
>
>> If the latter, which three programs didn't find anything?

>
> Actually four. Avira, a-Squared, SuperantiSpyware and Microsoft MSRT. All
> ran at full scan and MSRT took an hour and a half on around 30 GB.
>
>> And which program claimed to find 59 trojans?

>
> MalwareBytes
>
>> And what are some of the names of these trojans (five would be plenty)?

>
> Hm, it isn't real specific. It listed 6 as Trojan.Zlob, 1 as
> Rogue.Multiple, an Adware.Hotbar and the rest as Trojan.Agent.
>
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>
>


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Old 10-30-2009, 08:45 PM
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"David B." <mail@nomail.net> wrote in message
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> I would tend to believe what Malwarebytes is telling you,


I have a little trouble with that. I've had a single Zlob before and it
gave me all sorts of trouble. 6 Zlobs with 50 cousins and no issues? Can't
really believe that.

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Old 10-30-2009, 09:34 PM
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I've had machines with zlob, hotbar, keyloggers, etc on them with no outward
signs at all that they were infected, I've found you can't base a machines
level of infection by how it's performing.

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"JimL" <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote in message
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> "David B." <mail@nomail.net> wrote in message
> news:%23ETdQVZWKHA.1792@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
>> I would tend to believe what Malwarebytes is telling you,

>
> I have a little trouble with that. I've had a single Zlob before and it
> gave me all sorts of trouble. 6 Zlobs with 50 cousins and no issues?
> Can't really believe that.
>
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Old 10-31-2009, 03:03 AM
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JimL wrote:
> "Daave" <daave@example.com> wrote in message
> news:OclOCUWWKHA.3404@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> JimL wrote:
>>> XP Pro, SP3, etc.

>>
>> I have no idea what "etc." means in this context! I doubt anybody
>> else does either.

>
> Beside the point.


?

>>> You run 3 major anti-virus programs and come up clean. Then you
>>> run a fourth one and it lists 59 trojans.
>>>
>>> What do you think about that fourth anti-virus.

>>
>> Is this a hypothetical? Or is this something that actually happened
>> to you?

>
> It happened.
>
>> If the latter, which three programs didn't find anything?

>
> Actually four. Avira, a-Squared, SuperantiSpyware and Microsoft MSRT.
> All ran at full scan and MSRT took an hour and a half on around 30 GB.
>
>> And which program claimed to find 59 trojans?

>
> MalwareBytes
>
>> And what are some of the names of these trojans (five would be
>> plenty)?

>
> Hm, it isn't real specific. It listed 6 as Trojan.Zlob, 1 as
> Rogue.Multiple, an Adware.Hotbar and the rest as Trojan.Agent.


MBAM is one of the best. I would assume it's correct.


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Old 11-03-2009, 02:32 AM
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Default Re: Virus generalities

In news:hceonm$9sf$1@news.eternal-september.org,
JimL <invalid@invalid.inv>hceonm$9sf$1@news.eternal-september.org
typed:

: : XP Pro, SP3, etc.
: :
: : You run 3 major anti-virus programs and come up clean.
: : Then you run a fourth one and it lists 59 trojans.
: :
: : What do you think about that fourth anti-virus.
: :
: : Thanks
: :
: : --
: : JimL

Depends on the maker of each program. Which ones? 3 trash and a good
one, or 3 good ones and a trash? You gave no data to work with
realistically.


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Old 11-05-2009, 03:47 PM
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Malware bytes is one of the most thorough- I had popups at the beginning of
the year- norton couldn't touch it- and a friend in Sweden said MBAM was the
only thing that helped clear up his computer. Funny thing was, I was only on
google and something put 3 infected dlls and registry keys got infected. In
a 24 hour period- my work station at work and my wife's computer got
infected.

The funny part- the popup said that my wife's computer was infected with 75
pieces of spyware. A long time ago- I had trusted one of these google ad
headers - to scan my system for free and it kept popping up for me to buy
their commercial version- and in researching how to remove this sucker- I
found out that the scanner software itself was considered spyware- creating
an artificial illusion that you needed to spend money to remove additional
spyware that wasn't necessarily there.

The other night- in researching a hardware issue- Norton 360 invervened to
tell me that the second or third link on Google was infected with 4 separate
high priority threats. Naturally , there was not an easy process to find a
way to easily report this to google... its more about revenue from all the
bad guys than to shut them down. since then I have downloaded the MS hosts
file to shut down the pulse360.com popups and refresh it frequently to block
other host sites added to the list .

Bottom line- if it was a popup offerning to scan for free- don't accept it.
Use only trusted software to scan.

Advanced System Care (I use this- it fixed my wife's computer- found three
remote processes that MBAM and Norton could not identify)
Malwarebytes.org (I use this)
Winpatrol (used to use it, stopped using it when I started using Spybot
S&D)
Spyware blaster (I use this)
Spybot search and Destroy (I use this)
Adware (use this at work)
Norton 360 ( it slowed my computer way down- but their tech service helped
me through this and its no longer dragging my system down)

and I'm always willing to try the guy who gets ahead of the pack..... <G>



"JimL" <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote in message
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> XP Pro, SP3, etc.
>
> You run 3 major anti-virus programs and come up clean. Then you run a
> fourth one and it lists 59 trojans.
>
> What do you think about that fourth anti-virus.
>
> Thanks
>
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>
>



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Old 11-13-2009, 05:02 PM
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"Twayne" <nobody@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote in message
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> In news:hceonm$9sf$1@news.eternal-september.org,
> JimL <invalid@invalid.inv>hceonm$9sf$1@news.eternal-september.org
> typed:
>
> : : XP Pro, SP3, etc.
> : :
> : : You run 3 major anti-virus programs and come up clean.
> : : Then you run a fourth one and it lists 59 trojans.
> : :
> : : What do you think about that fourth anti-virus.
> : :
> : : Thanks
> : :
> : : --
> : : JimL
>
> Depends on the maker of each program. Which ones?


Pleaes note the Subject line.

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