It should help answer my question next time my CPU gets hogged.
Thanks to all,
Robert
"Jim" <j.n@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Robert J. Lafayette" <xyz1234@msn.invalid> wrote in message
> news:%23WvEukTJIHA.2712@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> XP Home sp2.
>>
>>
>> too much CPU going to one of the svchost.exe commands.
>>
>> A large svchost.exe, 14,212 k sometimes goes as high as 22,000 k.
>>
>> Often, too often, pushes CPU to 100% virtually stopping everything else.
>>
>> What can be done? Do I have too many SYSTEM svchost.exe's? Five (5) are
>> displayed.
> No you do not. In fact, 5 are fewer than most people see.
> It may be that Process Explorer can yield the commands given to
> svchost.exe by the invoking process. And such information may help in
> determining what is going on.
>>
>> Please advise,
>> This important system function is hogging my CPU. Please help.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Robert
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Jim
>
Windows and other software, especially antivirus software, think they are
doing us good by hiding what they are doing, like malicious software would,
and that can scare us as in this discussion. I don't understand why so many
people tolerate it.
I have turned of automatic updates for my antivirus, and now it tries to
scare me by telling me my system is unsafe.
"Robert J. Lafayette" <xyz1234@msn.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> I use Comodo firewall and Avast free anti virus;
> approximately once a week I run Compu Rx with all its components,
> including defrag,
Perhaps Sam because it's true. Have you given the matter serious
consideration? Do you not think that those propagating viruses, trojans
and malware are constantly devising new ways to circumvent the
protection offered by you anti-virus provider. Join the real world!
--
Hope this helps.
Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sam Hobbs wrote:
> Windows and other software, especially antivirus software, think they
> are doing us good by hiding what they are doing, like malicious
> software would, and that can scare us as in this discussion. I don't
> understand why so many people tolerate it.
>
> I have turned of automatic updates for my antivirus, and now it tries
> to scare me by telling me my system is unsafe.
>
>
>
Why would you turn off Automatic Updates for antivirus? Its not the AV
updates that are causing the system to spike to 100% but rather the
automatic update service by microsoft. There was some bug in an update a
while back that caused the system to hang when it was configured to download
and install windows/microsoft updates automatically. Microsoft did release a
hotfix for this bug, however have thus far still not released it to
automatic updates as far as I'm aware. Granted, I don't recommend taking
forever to install, thats why I recommended to download the updates, but
notify before installing, that way you can update windows at your earliest
convenience.
Virus & spyware codewriters get the same information as we do on these virus
update definitions as well as security updates for windows. Some of the more
malicious programmers will see that as an opportunity to spread their
programs or write a new program taking advantage of the flaw in security. Of
course, those who keep their computers and antivirus up to date will not be
affected, but rather stragglers who don't think that its that important.
If I were you, I would rethink my policy on how you keep your computer
updated. Otherwise eventually you're gonna roll the dice a few too many
times and end up with a large repair bill from something that could have
essentially been avoided.
-kenkcj
"Sam Hobbs" <samuel@social.rr.com_change_social_to_socal> wrote in message
news:e5xVeGDKIHA.3356@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Windows and other software, especially antivirus software, think they are
> doing us good by hiding what they are doing, like malicious software
> would, and that can scare us as in this discussion. I don't understand why
> so many people tolerate it.
>
> I have turned of automatic updates for my antivirus, and now it tries to
> scare me by telling me my system is unsafe.
>
>
> "Robert J. Lafayette" <xyz1234@msn.invalid> wrote in message
> news:O9$iaGUJIHA.4044@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>> I use Comodo firewall and Avast free anti virus;
>> approximately once a week I run Compu Rx with all its components,
>> including defrag,
>
>
>
Many antivirus software do download from their site, using their own
software. They download virus definitons that are useful only by their
software.
It is absolutely definite that it is the antivirus downloads that is the
problem. If you are not aware of that then either you don't use the
antivirus software I use or you are simply not aware of the antivirus
software doing downloads. It is highly likely that you are not aware of the
affect on performance of antivirus downloads because your system is fast
enough that the downloads do not affect performance. Unless you have a slow
processor, you can't advise me.
What I am talking about is antivirus software doing downloads that are
suspicious to the owner of the system. I explained why I had to turn off
automatic downloads for my antivirus software. I assure you that for the
problem I am describing, it is the antivirus updates. Yes, it is not just
the antivirus updates, and if you read what I said I did say that; just not
directly.
What I am talking about is antivirus software doing downloads, not Microsoft
Windows Update doing downloads.
"kenkcj" <unknownmailbox@unknown.com> wrote in message
news:%23HLAfPGKIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Why would you turn off Automatic Updates for antivirus? Its not the AV
> updates that are causing the system to spike to 100% but rather the
> automatic update service by microsoft. There was some bug in an update a
> while back that caused the system to hang when it was configured to
> download and install windows/microsoft updates automatically. Microsoft
> did release a hotfix for this bug, however have thus far still not
> released it to automatic updates as far as I'm aware. Granted, I don't
> recommend taking forever to install, thats why I recommended to download
> the updates, but notify before installing, that way you can update windows
> at your earliest convenience.
>
> Virus & spyware codewriters get the same information as we do on these
> virus update definitions as well as security updates for windows. Some of
> the more malicious programmers will see that as an opportunity to spread
> their programs or write a new program taking advantage of the flaw in
> security. Of course, those who keep their computers and antivirus up to
> date will not be affected, but rather stragglers who don't think that its
> that important.
>
> If I were you, I would rethink my policy on how you keep your computer
> updated. Otherwise eventually you're gonna roll the dice a few too many
> times and end up with a large repair bill from something that could have
> essentially been avoided.
> -kenkcj
>
> "Sam Hobbs" <samuel@social.rr.com_change_social_to_socal> wrote in message
> news:e5xVeGDKIHA.3356@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Windows and other software, especially antivirus software, think they are
>> doing us good by hiding what they are doing, like malicious software
>> would, and that can scare us as in this discussion. I don't understand
>> why so many people tolerate it.
>>
>> I have turned of automatic updates for my antivirus, and now it tries to
>> scare me by telling me my system is unsafe.
>>
>>
>> "Robert J. Lafayette" <xyz1234@msn.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:O9$iaGUJIHA.4044@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> I use Comodo firewall and Avast free anti virus;
>>> approximately once a week I run Compu Rx with all its components,
>>> including defrag,
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
I am in the real world. You are the one being theoretical; your theory is
that automatic downloads occuring while the system is booting is practical.
It's a good theory but not realistic.
Also, you are too quick to criticize; you do not understand the problem I
explained. I know that developers of malicious software will hide themselves
as much as possible. That is the problem I suggest can easily be solved by
the antivirus vendors
There are very easy solutions that the antivirus vendors can implement to
solve the problems, and I mentiond those solutions. They can easily do it.
Please be more realistic and try to understand what I said.
"Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:OLv2OLEKIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Perhaps Sam because it's true. Have you given the matter serious
> consideration? Do you not think that those propagating viruses, trojans
> and malware are constantly devising new ways to circumvent the protection
> offered by you anti-virus provider. Join the real world!
>
>
> --
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
> Sam Hobbs wrote:
>> Windows and other software, especially antivirus software, think they
>> are doing us good by hiding what they are doing, like malicious
>> software would, and that can scare us as in this discussion. I don't
>> understand why so many people tolerate it.
>>
>> I have turned of automatic updates for my antivirus, and now it tries
>> to scare me by telling me my system is unsafe.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
That scare tactic of telling the user his system is unsafe is nothing more
than a sales ploy.
"Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:OLv2OLEKIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Perhaps Sam because it's true. Have you given the matter serious
> consideration? Do you not think that those propagating viruses, trojans
> and malware are constantly devising new ways to circumvent the protection
> offered by you anti-virus provider. Join the real world!
>
>
> --
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
> Sam Hobbs wrote:
>> Windows and other software, especially antivirus software, think they
>> are doing us good by hiding what they are doing, like malicious
>> software would, and that can scare us as in this discussion. I don't
>> understand why so many people tolerate it.
>>
>> I have turned of automatic updates for my antivirus, and now it tries
>> to scare me by telling me my system is unsafe.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
Even on my older computer, I have automatic updates of antivirus turned on
simply because it allows you to be open to attacks from users who wait for
these virus updates to come out and spread them to unsuspecting users who
have no antivirus or keep the automatic update of virus definitions turned
off. It is definitely up to you to turn this off, but the AV software is
correct saying that your system is open to attack when you do this. Further,
the reason I was saying to not turn them off completely because the OP was
talking about svchst.exe which is a windows component and not a third party
software. Therefore, your subject was off-topic and I believe that the OP
should have been advised of best practices for his system based on the
problem he presented.
-kenkcj
"Sam Hobbs" <samuel@social.rr.com_change_social_to_socal> wrote in message
news:OQWA4lOKIHA.5920@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Many antivirus software do download from their site, using their own
> software. They download virus definitons that are useful only by their
> software.
>
> It is absolutely definite that it is the antivirus downloads that is the
> problem. If you are not aware of that then either you don't use the
> antivirus software I use or you are simply not aware of the antivirus
> software doing downloads. It is highly likely that you are not aware of
> the affect on performance of antivirus downloads because your system is
> fast enough that the downloads do not affect performance. Unless you have
> a slow processor, you can't advise me.
>
> What I am talking about is antivirus software doing downloads that are
> suspicious to the owner of the system. I explained why I had to turn off
> automatic downloads for my antivirus software. I assure you that for the
> problem I am describing, it is the antivirus updates. Yes, it is not just
> the antivirus updates, and if you read what I said I did say that; just
> not directly.
>
> What I am talking about is antivirus software doing downloads, not
> Microsoft Windows Update doing downloads.
>
>
> "kenkcj" <unknownmailbox@unknown.com> wrote in message
> news:%23HLAfPGKIHA.2268@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Why would you turn off Automatic Updates for antivirus? Its not the AV
>> updates that are causing the system to spike to 100% but rather the
>> automatic update service by microsoft. There was some bug in an update a
>> while back that caused the system to hang when it was configured to
>> download and install windows/microsoft updates automatically. Microsoft
>> did release a hotfix for this bug, however have thus far still not
>> released it to automatic updates as far as I'm aware. Granted, I don't
>> recommend taking forever to install, thats why I recommended to download
>> the updates, but notify before installing, that way you can update
>> windows at your earliest convenience.
>>
>> Virus & spyware codewriters get the same information as we do on these
>> virus update definitions as well as security updates for windows. Some of
>> the more malicious programmers will see that as an opportunity to spread
>> their programs or write a new program taking advantage of the flaw in
>> security. Of course, those who keep their computers and antivirus up to
>> date will not be affected, but rather stragglers who don't think that its
>> that important.
>>
>> If I were you, I would rethink my policy on how you keep your computer
>> updated. Otherwise eventually you're gonna roll the dice a few too many
>> times and end up with a large repair bill from something that could have
>> essentially been avoided.
>> -kenkcj
>>
>> "Sam Hobbs" <samuel@social.rr.com_change_social_to_socal> wrote in
>> message news:e5xVeGDKIHA.3356@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Windows and other software, especially antivirus software, think they
>>> are doing us good by hiding what they are doing, like malicious software
>>> would, and that can scare us as in this discussion. I don't understand
>>> why so many people tolerate it.
>>>
>>> I have turned of automatic updates for my antivirus, and now it tries to
>>> scare me by telling me my system is unsafe.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Robert J. Lafayette" <xyz1234@msn.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:O9$iaGUJIHA.4044@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>> I use Comodo firewall and Avast free anti virus;
>>>> approximately once a week I run Compu Rx with all its components,
>>>> including defrag,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
"kenkcj" <unknownmailbox@unknown.com> wrote in message
news:e$l8nKtKIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Even on my older computer, I have automatic updates of antivirus turned on
> simply because it allows you to be open to attacks from users who wait for
> these virus updates to come out and spread them to unsuspecting users who
> have no antivirus or keep the automatic update of virus definitions turned
> off.
You are overracting, and the fact that you say "no antivirus" proves you are
intentionally exagerating.
> Therefore, your subject was off-topic and I believe that the OP should
> have been advised of best practices for his system based on the problem he
> presented.
You say it is off-topic because you disagree. If you agreed then you would
not say that.
By the no antivirus is simply because I know some people who do. The only
difference between someone who has no antivirus and someone that doesn't
keep their virus definitions up to date is that those without antivirus can
still get infected by older viruses which barely even see the light of any
kind of infection any longer. And once again, I do disagree with your post
and the problem with the svchost CANNOT be solved by turning off updates of
the antivirus software since svchost is a microsoft process holding various
microsoft services on windows. Once again, if you want to keep your computer
unprotected from the latest threats, continue on with what you're doing, but
there are programs out there that will not cause problems with any type of
processes that update in the background with barely any loss in system
performance. Besides, its a nice 50-100 dollars each time someone comes to
someone who works on computers like myself where we have to clean an
infected system from someone who doesn't know how to properly use an
antivirus solution. Keep up your support for the IT community :-)
-kenkcj
"Sam Hobbs" <samuel@social.rr.com_change_social_to_socal> wrote in message
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> "kenkcj" <unknownmailbox@unknown.com> wrote in message
> news:e$l8nKtKIHA.1164@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Even on my older computer, I have automatic updates of antivirus turned
>> on simply because it allows you to be open to attacks from users who wait
>> for these virus updates to come out and spread them to unsuspecting users
>> who have no antivirus or keep the automatic update of virus definitions
>> turned off.
>
> You are overracting, and the fact that you say "no antivirus" proves you
> are intentionally exagerating.
>
>> Therefore, your subject was off-topic and I believe that the OP should
>> have been advised of best practices for his system based on the problem
>> he presented.
>
> You say it is off-topic because you disagree. If you agreed then you would
> not say that.
>
>
>
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