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Old 06-25-2007, 11:11 PM
Dominiccoombe
 
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Default Creating Backup Disks of Windows XP

Hi all.

I am not sure what microsofts position is on this.

Are you allowed to make a single backup copy of your original Windows XP
disk for security purposes?

If you are allowed is it Possible?

If it is possible how do you do it??

Thanks

Dominic Coombe
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Old 06-25-2007, 11:16 PM
Shenan Stanley
 
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Default Re: Creating Backup Disks of Windows XP

Dominiccoombe wrote:
> I am not sure what microsofts position is on this.
>
> Are you allowed to make a single backup copy of your original
> Windows XP disk for security purposes?
>
> If you are allowed is it Possible?
>
> If it is possible how do you do it??


Just like any of your other CDs/DVDs/Tapes/Whatever - you are ENCOURAGED to
make a duplicate copy for archival purposes.

You would use your third party CD/DVD burning/copy application to replicate
the CD or find instructions on the Internet (using Google or your favorite
search engine) on how to not only make a copy of it - but slipstream
(integrate) service packs and many security updates into a new copy of your
original CD/DVD for installation - saving you time and effort if you ever
have to install from that CD/DVD.

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Old 06-26-2007, 01:19 AM
ShaRRon
 
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Default Re: Creating Backup Disks of Windows XP



"Shenan Stanley" wrote:

> Dominiccoombe wrote:
> > I am not sure what microsofts position is on this.
> >
> > Are you allowed to make a single backup copy of your original
> > Windows XP disk for security purposes?
> >
> > If you are allowed is it Possible?
> >
> > If it is possible how do you do it??

>
> Just like any of your other CDs/DVDs/Tapes/Whatever - you are ENCOURAGED to
> make a duplicate copy for archival purposes.
>
> You would use your third party CD/DVD burning/copy application to replicate
> the CD or find instructions on the Internet (using Google or your favorite
> search engine) on how to not only make a copy of it - but slipstream
> (integrate) service packs and many security updates into a new copy of your
> original CD/DVD for installation - saving you time and effort if you ever
> have to install from that CD/DVD.
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
>
>

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Old 06-26-2007, 02:01 AM
ShaRRon
 
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Default Re: Creating Backup Disks of Windows XP

I would like to backup my full system on a CD, but my System Tools in
Accessories offer backup options for floppy disks on A: drive or tapes on F:
drive. Floppies are too small and I do not have F: drive. I have a CD
burner. Is it possible to backup on a CD without additional software?

>
>
> "Shenan Stanley" wrote:
>
> > Dominiccoombe wrote:
> > > I am not sure what microsofts position is on this.
> > >
> > > Are you allowed to make a single backup copy of your original
> > > Windows XP disk for security purposes?
> > >
> > > If you are allowed is it Possible?
> > >
> > > If it is possible how do you do it??

> >
> > Just like any of your other CDs/DVDs/Tapes/Whatever - you are ENCOURAGED to
> > make a duplicate copy for archival purposes.
> >
> > You would use your third party CD/DVD burning/copy application to replicate
> > the CD or find instructions on the Internet (using Google or your favorite
> > search engine) on how to not only make a copy of it - but slipstream
> > (integrate) service packs and many security updates into a new copy of your
> > original CD/DVD for installation - saving you time and effort if you ever
> > have to install from that CD/DVD.
> >
> > --
> > Shenan Stanley
> > MS-MVP
> > --
> > How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> >
> >
> >

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Old 06-26-2007, 02:17 AM
Shenan Stanley
 
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Default Re: Creating Backup Disks of Windows XP

ShaRRon wrote:
> I would like to backup my full system on a CD, but my System Tools
> in Accessories offer backup options for floppy disks on A: drive or
> tapes on F: drive. Floppies are too small and I do not have F:
> drive. I have a CD burner. Is it possible to backup on a CD
> without additional software?


NTBACKUP included with Windows XP cannot write directly to CD/DVD.

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Old 06-26-2007, 02:37 AM
Patrick Keenan
 
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Default Re: Creating Backup Disks of Windows XP

"Dominiccoombe" <Dominiccoombe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2A4008E4-B450-42EA-82B1-982C88C4D6A6@microsoft.com...
> Hi all.
>
> I am not sure what microsofts position is on this.
>
> Are you allowed to make a single backup copy of your original Windows XP
> disk for security purposes?


Yes you can.

You can also slipstream your copy to update it.

>
> If you are allowed is it Possible?


Sure is, in fact it's pretty easy.

> If it is possible how do you do it??


You use CD burning software that allows for creation of exact copies of a
disk. Simply make a copy of the CD.

Simply copying files will *not* make this work, as there are key boot files
you can't see in specific locations you can't control with simple copying.

It's not a bad idea to burn at low speed, as this can help maintain
integrity.

To test, insert the finished CD, shut down your system, and restart it. As
long as your system is set to boot from CD, it will start into Setup. You
can cancel at the first opportunity; the CD is working.

HTH
-pk


>
> Thanks
>
> Dominic Coombe



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Old 06-26-2007, 03:08 AM
Don Schmidt
 
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Default Re: Creating Backup Disks of Windows XP

What is "slipstream"?


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Don
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"Patrick Keenan" <test@dev.null> wrote in message
news:uoz7EK5tHHA.1768@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> "Dominiccoombe" <Dominiccoombe@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:2A4008E4-B450-42EA-82B1-982C88C4D6A6@microsoft.com...
>> Hi all.
>>
>> I am not sure what microsofts position is on this.
>>
>> Are you allowed to make a single backup copy of your original Windows XP
>> disk for security purposes?

>
> Yes you can.
>
> You can also slipstream your copy to update it.
>
>>
>> If you are allowed is it Possible?

>
> Sure is, in fact it's pretty easy.
>
>> If it is possible how do you do it??

>
> You use CD burning software that allows for creation of exact copies of a
> disk. Simply make a copy of the CD.
>
> Simply copying files will *not* make this work, as there are key boot
> files
> you can't see in specific locations you can't control with simple copying.
>
> It's not a bad idea to burn at low speed, as this can help maintain
> integrity.
>
> To test, insert the finished CD, shut down your system, and restart it.
> As
> long as your system is set to boot from CD, it will start into Setup. You
> can cancel at the first opportunity; the CD is working.
>
> HTH
> -pk
>
>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Dominic Coombe

>
>



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Old 06-26-2007, 03:31 AM
Bruce Chambers
 
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Default Re: Creating Backup Disks of Windows XP

Don Schmidt wrote:
> What is "slipstream"?
>
>



It's integrating service packs and other patches with the installation
files from the original installation media into a single package.

For slip-streaming the service pack and subsequent updates to WinXP:

How to integrate software updates into your Windows installation source
files
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;828930

SlipStreaming WinXP
http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/slipstream.htm


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Old 06-26-2007, 05:40 AM
Ken Blake, MVP
 
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Default Re: Creating Backup Disks of Windows XP

On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 19:08:34 -0700, "Don Schmidt" <Don
Engineer@PNB.Retired_1987> wrote:

> What is "slipstream"?




The word "slipstreaming" was originally used to refer to the practice
of many software manufacturers of including updates to their product
on the distribution CD without any real announcement of what they were
doing or differentiation of the various kind of CDs. It was always a
disparaging term because it was poor practice. It was used as a way
for the manufacturer not to have to print a different box, manual,
etc. for the updated version, and to sell older stock that didn't
appear to be outdated, but actually was. That saved them money, but it
left the customer unable to tell whether he was buying the new version
or the old.

Somewhere along the line, people started creating their own updated
versions of some software, by merging the update files with the
original CD. Someone got the bright idea to call it by the same name
"slipstreaming," without realizing that the name was originally used
in a disparaging way.

The term stuck. I dislike the use of the word this way, but the
original meaning has been lost, so I long ago gave up trying to fight
it. Since everybody now uses it simply to mean a version with the
upgrade incorporated in it, I reluctantly go along.

So these days a slipstreamed copy of XP simply means an installation
CD that you've made yourself that incorporates an upgrade, such as
SP2.

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Old 06-26-2007, 01:37 PM
Don Schmidt
 
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Default Re: Creating Backup Disks of Windows XP

Ken, Bruce,

Thanks for the explanations. I hope Microsoft offers a CD with the 60+
patches sometime before they terminate the support for XP.


--
Don
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"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote in message
news:v36183l3qpaekihq530br73klp20dno7ht@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 19:08:34 -0700, "Don Schmidt" <Don
> Engineer@PNB.Retired_1987> wrote:
>
>> What is "slipstream"?

>
>
>
> The word "slipstreaming" was originally used to refer to the practice
> of many software manufacturers of including updates to their product
> on the distribution CD without any real announcement of what they were
> doing or differentiation of the various kind of CDs. It was always a
> disparaging term because it was poor practice. It was used as a way
> for the manufacturer not to have to print a different box, manual,
> etc. for the updated version, and to sell older stock that didn't
> appear to be outdated, but actually was. That saved them money, but it
> left the customer unable to tell whether he was buying the new version
> or the old.
>
> Somewhere along the line, people started creating their own updated
> versions of some software, by merging the update files with the
> original CD. Someone got the bright idea to call it by the same name
> "slipstreaming," without realizing that the name was originally used
> in a disparaging way.
>
> The term stuck. I dislike the use of the word this way, but the
> original meaning has been lost, so I long ago gave up trying to fight
> it. Since everybody now uses it simply to mean a version with the
> upgrade incorporated in it, I reluctantly go along.
>
> So these days a slipstreamed copy of XP simply means an installation
> CD that you've made yourself that incorporates an upgrade, such as
> SP2.
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup



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