The pound rating of paper is not associated with the paper thickness; I
think it has to do with strength. At least it doesn't apply with the paper
I've suggested; it is about double the thickness of normal 20 lb paper. I
use a HP Business Inkjet 1200 on our home network. Paper travels through
the printer negotiating a 180° turn on a +/- 1.5" roller.
A thicker more booklet like cover paper I use without difficulty is Wausau
Exact 65 lb #68801. I use this one for our lodge's member directory which
is 24 pages. It does require premium staples to bind.
don
"VanguardLH" <V@nguard.LH> wrote in message
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> "Don Schmidt" wrote in message news:13rbngu6f1c1821@corp.supernews.com...
>> The mystery continues but let me share with you an excellent paper for
>> greeting/anniversary double fold cards; and also great for the cover page
>> of a few pages booklets.
>>
>> Brand: Wausau Exact, Opaque White 70 lb White / 92 Brightness #55581
>> 500 sheets Ream less than $10.00
>
>
> But then you need to determine in all your calculations if such paper is
> usable by whatever printer you intend to use in your calculations. Most
> printers are geared for #25 paper. #70 paper could be too thick or too
> non-flexible to wrangle its way through the feed mechanism of the printer.
> Obviously a printer that feeds and ejects on the same side would put a
> roll in the thicker paper, so for doing greeting card work you would want
> a straight-feed printer (in the front, out the back, and *flat* with no
> bending which means the paper can't even be in a slanted feed tray) that
> keeps the paper flat during printing instead of rolling it over a roller
> to get the printer under the cartridge's head(s). Not all cheapie inkjet
> printers can handle heavy-weight paper, so the more expensive printer
> would have to figure into your cost per page.
Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
John John wrote:
> I don't think that it is that expensive but like VanguardLH said there
> are many factors to consider to get an accurate cost per page.
> Everyday use paper costs about $5.00/ream, a ream is 500 pages so
> paper for everyday printing is as little as one cent per page. The
> ink cost and approximate yield information you can find on the net. To
> that you have to include the printer cost, for good quality
> printers the MTBF (Mean Time Between Failure) is often given and
> expressed in number of pages printed, so a printer with a MTBF of
> 50,000 should yield about that many pages, that is its about useful
> life, divide the cost of the printer by the MTBF and it will give you
> an approximate hardware cost per page.
> My findings with this is that the old saying "You can pay me now, or
> you can pay me later" certainly applies to printers! Ink for cheap
> printers is way more expensive than for the more expensive ones and
> manufacturers usually don't publish MTBF information for the cheap
> printers, I can tell you that they don't last too long and the
> hardware cost is usually much more than for expensive printers.
> Another cost often overlooked is the speed at which the printer
> prints and the overall quality of the prints. If you are paying an
> employee to print 100 pages on a printer that prints 4 or 5 pages per
> minutes and that blotch half of them the cost per page is going to be
> in the dollar range, not pennies!
> In the end it is up to you to decide what you need. Try to estimate
> how many pages you print per month and try to get a printer rated for
> a bit more than your monthly average. I think that nobody regrets
> spending a bit more for a good printer, they are worth it if you do
> any amount of printing. I think that you should leave those $79
> clacketty printers on the shelf, they're not very reliable and the
> replacement ink usually cost more than the printer! Not to mention
> that after you run 2 sets of cartridges and about 1,000 pages through
> the printer it will probably break down! In other words, you get
> what you pay for.
> John
>
> Don Schmidt wrote:
>
>> Anyone know the approximate cost for ink and paper per page is?
>>
>> Black & White
>>
>> Color
>>
>> I'm not splitting any atoms here; some years ago it was anywhere
>> from 40¢ to 80¢
>>
>> Many thanks.
That sounds like a top paper feeder which are far more prone to jams. A
flat feed level tray is better.
--
Hope this helps.
Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Don Schmidt wrote:
> The pound rating of paper is not associated with the paper thickness;
> I think it has to do with strength. At least it doesn't apply with
> the paper I've suggested; it is about double the thickness of normal
> 20 lb paper. I use a HP Business Inkjet 1200 on our home network.
> Paper travels through the printer negotiating a 180° turn on a +/-
> 1.5" roller.
> A thicker more booklet like cover paper I use without difficulty is
> Wausau Exact 65 lb #68801. I use this one for our lodge's member
> directory which is 24 pages. It does require premium staples to bind.
>
> don
>
>
> "VanguardLH" <V@nguard.LH> wrote in message
> news:On3EOSEcIHA.5988@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> "Don Schmidt" wrote in message
>> news:13rbngu6f1c1821@corp.supernews.com...
>>> The mystery continues but let me share with you an excellent paper
>>> for greeting/anniversary double fold cards; and also great for the
>>> cover page of a few pages booklets.
>>>
>>> Brand: Wausau Exact, Opaque White 70 lb White / 92 Brightness
>>> #55581 500 sheets Ream less than $10.00
>>
>>
>> But then you need to determine in all your calculations if such
>> paper is usable by whatever printer you intend to use in your
>> calculations. Most printers are geared for #25 paper. #70 paper
>> could be too thick or too non-flexible to wrangle its way through
>> the feed mechanism of the printer. Obviously a printer that feeds
>> and ejects on the same side would put a roll in the thicker paper,
>> so for doing greeting card work you would want a straight-feed
>> printer (in the front, out the back, and *flat* with no bending
>> which means the paper can't even be in a slanted feed tray) that
>> keeps the paper flat during printing instead of rolling it over a
>> roller to get the printer under the cartridge's head(s). Not all
>> cheapie inkjet printers can handle heavy-weight paper, so the more
>> expensive printer would have to figure into your cost per page.
The HP Business InkJet 1200 is a two tray printer where the paper is feed in
on the bottom and comes out on top of the two trays. It also has a duplex
routing in the back of the printer. Jams are scarce and if it does, a push
of a button clears the jam. The one disappointment I have with this printer
is, it leaves a ½" margin on the bottom of the paper. Other than that it
works well if I print from my computer, the wireless laptop path or from our
daughter's networked computer in her room.
--
Don
Vancouver, USA
"Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Don
>
> That sounds like a top paper feeder which are far more prone to jams. A
> flat feed level tray is better.
>
>
> --
>
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Gerry
> ~~~~
> FCA
> Stourport, England
> Enquire, plan and execute
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Don Schmidt wrote:
>> The pound rating of paper is not associated with the paper thickness;
>> I think it has to do with strength. At least it doesn't apply with
>> the paper I've suggested; it is about double the thickness of normal
>> 20 lb paper. I use a HP Business Inkjet 1200 on our home network. Paper
>> travels through the printer negotiating a 180° turn on a +/-
>> 1.5" roller.
>> A thicker more booklet like cover paper I use without difficulty is
>> Wausau Exact 65 lb #68801. I use this one for our lodge's member
>> directory which is 24 pages. It does require premium staples to bind.
>>
>> don
>>
>>
>> "VanguardLH" <V@nguard.LH> wrote in message
>> news:On3EOSEcIHA.5988@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> "Don Schmidt" wrote in message
>>> news:13rbngu6f1c1821@corp.supernews.com...
>>>> The mystery continues but let me share with you an excellent paper
>>>> for greeting/anniversary double fold cards; and also great for the
>>>> cover page of a few pages booklets.
>>>>
>>>> Brand: Wausau Exact, Opaque White 70 lb White / 92 Brightness
>>>> #55581 500 sheets Ream less than $10.00
>>>
>>>
>>> But then you need to determine in all your calculations if such
>>> paper is usable by whatever printer you intend to use in your
>>> calculations. Most printers are geared for #25 paper. #70 paper
>>> could be too thick or too non-flexible to wrangle its way through
>>> the feed mechanism of the printer. Obviously a printer that feeds
>>> and ejects on the same side would put a roll in the thicker paper,
>>> so for doing greeting card work you would want a straight-feed
>>> printer (in the front, out the back, and *flat* with no bending
>>> which means the paper can't even be in a slanted feed tray) that
>>> keeps the paper flat during printing instead of rolling it over a
>>> roller to get the printer under the cartridge's head(s). Not all
>>> cheapie inkjet printers can handle heavy-weight paper, so the more
>>> expensive printer would have to figure into your cost per page.
>
>
My preference is to use a laser printer. I do not need colour. Initial
expense is greater but cheaper running costs/ HP Laserjet 1200.
--
Hope this helps.
Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Don Schmidt wrote:
> The HP Business InkJet 1200 is a two tray printer where the paper is
> feed in on the bottom and comes out on top of the two trays. It also
> has a duplex routing in the back of the printer. Jams are scarce and
> if it does, a push of a button clears the jam. The one
> disappointment I have with this printer is, it leaves a ½" margin on
> the bottom of the paper. Other than that it works well if I print
> from my computer, the wireless laptop path or from our daughter's
> networked computer in her room.
>
>
> "Gerry" <gerry@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:ekNVMkOcIHA.5208@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Don
>>
>> That sounds like a top paper feeder which are far more prone to
>> jams. A flat feed level tray is better.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Gerry
>> ~~~~
>> FCA
>> Stourport, England
>> Enquire, plan and execute
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> Don Schmidt wrote:
>>> The pound rating of paper is not associated with the paper
>>> thickness; I think it has to do with strength. At least it doesn't
>>> apply with
>>> the paper I've suggested; it is about double the thickness of normal
>>> 20 lb paper. I use a HP Business Inkjet 1200 on our home network.
>>> Paper travels through the printer negotiating a 180° turn on a +/-
>>> 1.5" roller.
>>> A thicker more booklet like cover paper I use without difficulty is
>>> Wausau Exact 65 lb #68801. I use this one for our lodge's member
>>> directory which is 24 pages. It does require premium staples to
>>> bind. don
>>>
>>>
>>> "VanguardLH" <V@nguard.LH> wrote in message
>>> news:On3EOSEcIHA.5988@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> "Don Schmidt" wrote in message
>>>> news:13rbngu6f1c1821@corp.supernews.com...
>>>>> The mystery continues but let me share with you an excellent paper
>>>>> for greeting/anniversary double fold cards; and also great for the
>>>>> cover page of a few pages booklets.
>>>>>
>>>>> Brand: Wausau Exact, Opaque White 70 lb White / 92 Brightness
>>>>> #55581 500 sheets Ream less than $10.00
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> But then you need to determine in all your calculations if such
>>>> paper is usable by whatever printer you intend to use in your
>>>> calculations. Most printers are geared for #25 paper. #70 paper
>>>> could be too thick or too non-flexible to wrangle its way through
>>>> the feed mechanism of the printer. Obviously a printer that feeds
>>>> and ejects on the same side would put a roll in the thicker paper,
>>>> so for doing greeting card work you would want a straight-feed
>>>> printer (in the front, out the back, and *flat* with no bending
>>>> which means the paper can't even be in a slanted feed tray) that
>>>> keeps the paper flat during printing instead of rolling it over a
>>>> roller to get the printer under the cartridge's head(s). Not all
>>>> cheapie inkjet printers can handle heavy-weight paper, so the more
>>>> expensive printer would have to figure into your cost per page.
The pound rating is in fact the weight of the paper. A ream of 20 pound
17"x22" sheets of bond paper is supposed to weigh 20 pounds. Therefore
a ream of 8.5"x11" would weigh 5 pounds.
- Grandpa was a printer.
Don Schmidt wrote:
> The pound rating of paper is not associated with the paper thickness; I
> think it has to do with strength. At least it doesn't apply with the paper
> I've suggested; it is about double the thickness of normal 20 lb paper. I
> use a HP Business Inkjet 1200 on our home network. Paper travels through
> the printer negotiating a 180° turn on a +/- 1.5" roller.
>
> A thicker more booklet like cover paper I use without difficulty is Wausau
> Exact 65 lb #68801. I use this one for our lodge's member directory which
> is 24 pages. It does require premium staples to bind.
>
> don
>
>
> "VanguardLH" <V@nguard.LH> wrote in message
> news:On3EOSEcIHA.5988@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> "Don Schmidt" wrote in message news:13rbngu6f1c1821@corp.supernews.com...
>>> The mystery continues but let me share with you an excellent paper for
>>> greeting/anniversary double fold cards; and also great for the cover page
>>> of a few pages booklets.
>>>
>>> Brand: Wausau Exact, Opaque White 70 lb White / 92 Brightness #55581
>>> 500 sheets Ream less than $10.00
>>
>> But then you need to determine in all your calculations if such paper is
>> usable by whatever printer you intend to use in your calculations. Most
>> printers are geared for #25 paper. #70 paper could be too thick or too
>> non-flexible to wrangle its way through the feed mechanism of the printer.
>> Obviously a printer that feeds and ejects on the same side would put a
>> roll in the thicker paper, so for doing greeting card work you would want
>> a straight-feed printer (in the front, out the back, and *flat* with no
>> bending which means the paper can't even be in a slanted feed tray) that
>> keeps the paper flat during printing instead of rolling it over a roller
>> to get the printer under the cartridge's head(s). Not all cheapie inkjet
>> printers can handle heavy-weight paper, so the more expensive printer
>> would have to figure into your cost per page.
>
>