Blocking Google

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
> On Sun, 27 May 2007 17:09:50 -0400, "Pete" <pete@nospam.net> wrote:
>
>> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
>>> On Sun, 27 May 2007 14:12:04 -0400, "Poprivet"
>>> <poprivet@devnull.spamcop.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> You guys seem to be missing the intent of using x-no archive. It's
>>>> not to HIDE from anyone, it's to prevent an off topic or less than
>>>> topical response from cluttering up the archives.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regardless of what the original intent was, it's most often used
>>> today by people who don't want their postings archived forever. And
>>> it doesn't work for that purpose, as both Vanguard and I pointed
>>> out.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Most places that actually care will honor
>>>> the x-line in order to have clean archives and keep the clutter
>>>> down. In general there won't be many responses to an x- line like
>>>> that.
>>>
>>>
>>> In my experience, the number of responses a message gets is
>>> unrelated to whether the x-no archive tag is present. And if you
>>> get even a single response that quotes your message, everything in
>>> that quote is archived forever.
>>
>> Hi Ken...but isn't it archived under the persons logo that responded
>> to your post, so therefore someone couldn't type your name into a
>> box and have the message show up (ie they would have to type the
>> persons name who responded to you, and then your message would show
>> up as a quote in his response), but that would be random luck for
>> someone to come across my message that way, so it is much safer or
>> better.
>
>
>
> I'm not sure what you mean by "safer" or "better." Personally I have
> no problem with my messages being archived.

Ken...I meant it is better to prevent a troll, stalker, or other *******
from following you around in newsgroups, if he or she wanted to make your
life miserable. I addressed this in my second post which you said you
didn't get.


>
> But if you mean harder to find, no that isn't so. If I do a google
> newsgroup search for the text string pete@nospam.net with today's
> date. I find your message above and the other messages in the thread.
> Even if you had begun this message with x-no archive, I would still
> find the messages that quoted you, because that address exists as a
> text string in the messages (for example, it's in the top line of this
> message I'm sending.

Okay...that's kind of what I was getting at.

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>
>
>
>> Do you see what I am getting at, or am I all wet. Please read my
>> second post in the thread also - no one answered it.
>
>
> There was no second post here. This was the second post you made in
> this thread.

It was dated 5/27/07 (2:04 pm). It shows up on my pc - I wonder why you
can't see it. Interesting.


>
>
>
>> Maybe because I don't
>> understand it as good as you guys. In other words if I use
>> x-no-archive, everytime I write something whether it is an original
>> post by me or a response to another post, will that prevent my
>> message from showing up when someone types my logo into the google
>> box...Pete
>
>
> Logo? Do you mean E-mail address? You are right only if your address
> is typed in the author field, but you are not right if it's typed into
> a text field.

Yes Ken...I meant e-mail address (I call it name, or logo, or handle) - what
is the best term. I see what you are saying. So the bottom line is there
is no way to stop a troll from following you and messing with you if he/she
wants to (ie all they have to do is type your munged e-mail address in the
text field). Thanks...Pete

"Poprivet" wrote in message
news:eb6jVpIoHHA.4400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> You guys seem to be missing the intent of using x-no archive. It's
> not to HIDE from anyone, it's to prevent an off topic or less than
> topical response from cluttering up the archives.

That is not how the header is being used, however. Some users, as a
default, configure their NNTP client to always insert the header whether
it is relevant or not based on its original intended usage.