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Old 11-26-2007, 04:55 AM
DeanB
 
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Default Backup needs a floppy?

Hi all,

This is not really all that annoying to me, its just somewhat funny.
When I right-click on a hard drive and go to Properties | Tools |
Backup, it requires a floppy disk drive for the process to work. Says
it will create a boot disk. Can't make it select the DVD drive as an
alternative. Am I reading this wrong? Didn't they stop making FDD's a
while back?
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Old 11-26-2007, 09:16 AM
Gordon
 
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Default Re: Backup needs a floppy?

"DeanB" <deanbrown3d@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:976fe6f7-006a-4230-a664-eac1b9ab8843@n20g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> Hi all,
>
> This is not really all that annoying to me, its just somewhat funny.
> When I right-click on a hard drive and go to Properties | Tools |
> Backup, it requires a floppy disk drive for the process to work. Says
> it will create a boot disk. Can't make it select the DVD drive as an
> alternative. Am I reading this wrong? Didn't they stop making FDD's a
> while back?



Presumably you are using the backup function included in Windows XP Pro?
It's not a good product - you would be well advised to get a commercial
application like Acronis true image. Also be aware that the XP backup
function won't backup directly to CDR or DVD at all anyway.


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Old 11-26-2007, 03:32 PM
Ken Blake, MVP
 
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Default Re: Backup needs a floppy?

On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:55:24 -0800 (PST), DeanB
<deanbrown3d@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> This is not really all that annoying to me, its just somewhat funny.
> When I right-click on a hard drive and go to Properties | Tools |
> Backup, it requires a floppy disk drive for the process to work. Says
> it will create a boot disk. Can't make it select the DVD drive as an
> alternative. Am I reading this wrong? Didn't they stop making FDD's a
> while back?




No, you're not reading it wrong, and no, they haven't stopped making
floppy drives. Although many, if not most, computers come without
floppy drives these days, they are still available, and if you want
one, you can buy and install one very easily and inexpensively. My
personal preference is to have a floppy drive on all my computers. I
need to use one *very* seldom, but for the $5-10 US that they cost,
it's worth having it available.

By the way, the built-in Windows backup program is probably the
poorest backup program available. There are several better choices,
and I personally think it's worth spending a few dollars to get a
better product, such as Acronis True Image, my personal favorite.

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
Please Reply to the Newsgroup
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Old 11-26-2007, 04:09 PM
DL
 
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Default Re: Backup needs a floppy?

Thats because the NTBackup app was designed when cd/dvd's were not in
existance

"DeanB" <deanbrown3d@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:976fe6f7-006a-4230-a664-eac1b9ab8843@n20g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> Hi all,
>
> This is not really all that annoying to me, its just somewhat funny.
> When I right-click on a hard drive and go to Properties | Tools |
> Backup, it requires a floppy disk drive for the process to work. Says
> it will create a boot disk. Can't make it select the DVD drive as an
> alternative. Am I reading this wrong? Didn't they stop making FDD's a
> while back?



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Old 11-26-2007, 05:04 PM
DeanB
 
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Default Re: Backup needs a floppy?

On Nov 26, 11:09 am, "DL" <address@invalid> wrote:
> Thats because the NTBackup app was designed when cd/dvd's were not in
> existance
>
> "DeanB" <deanbrow...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:976fe6f7-006a-4230-a664-eac1b9ab8843@n20g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > Hi all,

>
> > This is not really all that annoying to me, its just somewhat funny.
> > When I right-click on a hard drive and go to Properties | Tools |
> > Backup, it requires a floppy disk drive for the process to work. Says
> > it will create a boot disk. Can't make it select the DVD drive as an
> > alternative. Am I reading this wrong? Didn't they stop making FDD's a
> > while back?- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


So how does Acronis compare to norton ghost (which I have)?
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Old 11-26-2007, 07:05 PM
Poprivet`
 
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Default Re: Backup needs a floppy?

DeanB wrote:
> On Nov 26, 11:09 am, "DL" <address@invalid> wrote:
>> Thats because the NTBackup app was designed when cd/dvd's were not in
>> existance
>>
>> "DeanB" <deanbrow...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:976fe6f7-006a-4230-a664-eac1b9ab8843@n20g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>> Hi all,

>>
>>> This is not really all that annoying to me, its just somewhat funny.
>>> When I right-click on a hard drive and go to Properties | Tools |
>>> Backup, it requires a floppy disk drive for the process to work.
>>> Says it will create a boot disk. Can't make it select the DVD drive
>>> as an alternative. Am I reading this wrong? Didn't they stop making
>>> FDD's a while back?- Hide quoted text -

>>
>> - Show quoted text -

>
> So how does Acronis compare to norton ghost (which I have)?


Very similar IMO, others may argue for either one or even different ones. I
tried them both and stuck with Norton because it seemed to "fit" more with
the way I like to work. I'd say either is a very good choice.

Pop`


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Old 11-26-2007, 08:40 PM
philo
 
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Default Re: Backup needs a floppy?


"DeanB" <deanbrown3d@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:976fe6f7-006a-4230-a664-eac1b9ab8843@n20g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> Hi all,
>
> This is not really all that annoying to me, its just somewhat funny.
> When I right-click on a hard drive and go to Properties | Tools |
> Backup, it requires a floppy disk drive for the process to work. Says
> it will create a boot disk. Can't make it select the DVD drive as an
> alternative. Am I reading this wrong? Didn't they stop making FDD's a
> while back?



You could never backup any significant amount of data to a floppy...the idea
is absurd...
the utility was used more for tape drive backups.

To backup your data...don't bother with any utilites at all...
just burn anything you need to save directly to cd or dvd!


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Old 11-26-2007, 09:21 PM
robDotCalm
 
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Default Re: Backup needs a floppy?

I recently bought 2 Seagate external hard drives for backup (one in use and
the other in a fire resistant safe). In using Windows Backup, I too ran
into the problem that for a system backup I needed a floppy drive for a
restart in an emergency situation. I downloaded the Acronis Lite (free)
version from Seagate. Like some other commercial backup software I tried, it
has one very annoying feature: it does not flip the archive attribute. Thus
if the attribute is +a before backing up with Acronis Lite, it's still that
afterwards. Question: is this also true in the full version. I can live with
Windows Backup, but it's klutzy. However, I'm not willing to go to a backup
program that can't even flip the archive attribute.

Cheers,
Rob.calm


"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

> On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:55:24 -0800 (PST), DeanB
> <deanbrown3d@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > This is not really all that annoying to me, its just somewhat funny.
> > When I right-click on a hard drive and go to Properties | Tools |
> > Backup, it requires a floppy disk drive for the process to work. Says
> > it will create a boot disk. Can't make it select the DVD drive as an
> > alternative. Am I reading this wrong? Didn't they stop making FDD's a
> > while back?

>
>
>
> No, you're not reading it wrong, and no, they haven't stopped making
> floppy drives. Although many, if not most, computers come without
> floppy drives these days, they are still available, and if you want
> one, you can buy and install one very easily and inexpensively. My
> personal preference is to have a floppy drive on all my computers. I
> need to use one *very* seldom, but for the $5-10 US that they cost,
> it's worth having it available.
>
> By the way, the built-in Windows backup program is probably the
> poorest backup program available. There are several better choices,
> and I personally think it's worth spending a few dollars to get a
> better product, such as Acronis True Image, my personal favorite.
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>

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  #9  
Old 11-26-2007, 09:23 PM
Unknown
 
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Default Re: Backup needs a floppy?

The purpose of the floppy was not to back-up data. It was to repair any boot
problem at the beginning of the HD.
"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:ufacexGMIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
> "DeanB" <deanbrown3d@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:976fe6f7-006a-4230-a664-eac1b9ab8843@n20g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>> Hi all,
>>
>> This is not really all that annoying to me, its just somewhat funny.
>> When I right-click on a hard drive and go to Properties | Tools |
>> Backup, it requires a floppy disk drive for the process to work. Says
>> it will create a boot disk. Can't make it select the DVD drive as an
>> alternative. Am I reading this wrong? Didn't they stop making FDD's a
>> while back?

>
>
> You could never backup any significant amount of data to a floppy...the
> idea
> is absurd...
> the utility was used more for tape drive backups.
>
> To backup your data...don't bother with any utilites at all...
> just burn anything you need to save directly to cd or dvd!
>
>



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Old 11-27-2007, 01:22 AM
philo
 
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Default Re: Backup needs a floppy?


"Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom> wrote in message
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> The purpose of the floppy was not to back-up data. It was to repair any

boot
> problem at the beginning of the HD.
> "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:ufacexGMIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >
> >



Yes , for win2k or XP
all you need do is format a floppy, then copy boot.ini, ntdetect.com & ntldr
to it...
if your "boot files" go bad or missing, the floppy will boot you right to
the GUI...a good tool to have...
especially if you are inclined to edit boot.ini !


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