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Old 02-05-2008, 06:53 PM
mh64
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Default Vista or XP?

We are getting a new computer and generally only buy a new computer every 5-6
years, so we take whatever OS comes on the computer at that time(currently
using XP with no real issues). I keep seeing all the negatives & problems
with Vista, is it really that bad for a non-technical user like myself?
Should I be opting for XP instead, because if I do it seems to really limit
available computer selection?
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Old 02-05-2008, 06:58 PM
Carey Frisch [MVP]
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Default Re: Vista or XP?

I've been using Windows Vista for well over a year now
and have not encountered any significant issues.
I would highly recommend Windows Vista for your new computer.
Make sure you order at least 2GB of RAM.

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Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User

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"mh64" wrote:

We are getting a new computer and generally only buy a new computer every 5-6
years, so we take whatever OS comes on the computer at that time(currently
using XP with no real issues). I keep seeing all the negatives & problems
with Vista, is it really that bad for a non-technical user like myself?
Should I be opting for XP instead, because if I do it seems to really limit
available computer selection?
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Old 02-05-2008, 07:12 PM
Bob F.
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Default Re: Vista or XP?

My computer was getting old and I thought I needed to upgrade. I bought a
new Dell that came with Vista. I didn't really want Vista from all I heard
but after a while I resolved all the issues. Most of them were caused by a
misunderstanding of how the new OS worked. Now everything is stable.

I would suggest if you are changing out ALL your computers, get the fastest
Dell you can, make sure it has at least 2 gig of Ram (4 works slightly
better but not much...depends on applications) and the biggest drive(s) you
can get.

Bob F.


"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
news:4F3D4EFE-5723-4C15-AFA3-EBA612371832@microsoft.com...
> I've been using Windows Vista for well over a year now
> and have not encountered any significant issues.
> I would highly recommend Windows Vista for your new computer.
> Make sure you order at least 2GB of RAM.
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "mh64" wrote:
>
> We are getting a new computer and generally only buy a new computer every
> 5-6
> years, so we take whatever OS comes on the computer at that time(currently
> using XP with no real issues). I keep seeing all the negatives & problems
> with Vista, is it really that bad for a non-technical user like myself?
> Should I be opting for XP instead, because if I do it seems to really
> limit
> available computer selection?


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Old 02-05-2008, 07:14 PM
R. McCarty
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Default Re: Vista or XP?

There are two primary considerations for a new PC with Vista. First
will all your existing peripherals ( Printer, Scanner, Camera...) work
with Vista. Secondly do you have any software that you'll want to use
on the Vista machine. Some software is not compliant.
Vista is not bad, that's a public perception that has taken hold. As to
choosing XP that's an option but over your 5-6 year life cycle XP is
set to become unsupported by Microsoft. There are other things to
consider such as the fact that new peripherals will soon have ONLY
driver support for Vista. If you buy a new machine with XP you may
lock yourself out from using newer devices. The same thing may apply
to newer applications they may only run on the Vista platform.

"mh64" <mh64@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0E052ADD-743A-4E58-9414-88780E9AE765@microsoft.com...
> We are getting a new computer and generally only buy a new computer every
> 5-6
> years, so we take whatever OS comes on the computer at that time(currently
> using XP with no real issues). I keep seeing all the negatives & problems
> with Vista, is it really that bad for a non-technical user like myself?
> Should I be opting for XP instead, because if I do it seems to really
> limit
> available computer selection?



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Old 02-05-2008, 07:14 PM
Bill Martin
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Default Re: Vista or XP?

On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 10:53:04 -0800, mh64
<mh64@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>We are getting a new computer and generally only buy a new computer every 5-6
>years, so we take whatever OS comes on the computer at that time(currently
>using XP with no real issues). I keep seeing all the negatives & problems
>with Vista, is it really that bad for a non-technical user like myself?
>Should I be opting for XP instead, because if I do it seems to really limit
>available computer selection?


-----------------

My personal solution to this same question was to buy a computer with
Vista on it (alas), but to make sure it could run XP if I chose to
install it later. Not all computers that come with Vista will run XP
due to lack of drivers, or lack of support from the vendor. None of
the ones I checked on from Sony or Toshiba for example, at the time I
was looking.

I ended up with an HP/Compaq laptop which HP assures me will run XP
and which they will support. Check with them about individual models
though - don't take that as a blanket statement.

Anyhow, I've had Vista a week or so. I spent hours figuring out how
to turn off all the Vista eye candy, indexing, Vista interface, etc.,
et al. As a result I now have a system that looks pretty much like my
old XP system and which I've been happy enough with thus far. I still
have XP in my back pocket though if things become untenable.

Good luck.

Bill
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Old 02-05-2008, 07:17 PM
Cameron Snyder
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Default Re: Vista or XP?

Vista, of course, but don't expect to use your 5-year old scanner or your
4-year old webcam, not that you couldn't, but have those drivers been
updated?


"mh64" <mh64@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0E052ADD-743A-4E58-9414-88780E9AE765@microsoft.com...
> We are getting a new computer and generally only buy a new computer every
> 5-6
> years, so we take whatever OS comes on the computer at that time(currently
> using XP with no real issues). I keep seeing all the negatives & problems
> with Vista, is it really that bad for a non-technical user like myself?
> Should I be opting for XP instead, because if I do it seems to really
> limit
> available computer selection?


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Old 02-05-2008, 07:30 PM
Rich T
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"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
news:4F3D4EFE-5723-4C15-AFA3-EBA612371832@microsoft.com...
> I've been using Windows Vista for well over a year now
> and have not encountered any significant issues.


No significant issues? How about answering some of my "insignificant issues"
on this forum then?

eg - completely random, unpredictable USB driver failures casuing repeated
catastrophic loss of computer use - even mouse fails! Vista unable to load
new hardware drivers etc?

eg - massive problems with drivers for sound cards so it is impossible to
use Skype on my Dimension 9200?

eg - perfectly good software and hardware not backwards compatible - ie
forced to throw out and replace a perfectly good HP printer, Adobe
Professional 6.0, Garmin 1000 simulator does not work, Symantec Winfax pro
does not work.

Vista not even compatible with Microsoft products - eg appalling interface
with Live One Care (which was a brilliant program on XP), Vista does not
work with my Microsoft mouse, Vista shuts down because of DEP whenever I try
to import a jpeg movie from my Microsoft PDA phone, Microsoft digital
fingerprint reader making Windows sidebar gadgets unusable because of the
red splodge over the gadget - and I could go on and on. I have repeatedly
sought solutions to these problems on this and other forums and no answers.
ANd then MVP claim there are no problems !!!! LOOOOOOOOL!!!!

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Old 02-05-2008, 07:31 PM
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mh64;597205 Wrote:
> We are getting a new computer and generally only buy a new computer
> every 5-6
> years, so we take whatever OS comes on the computer at that
> time(currently
> using XP with no real issues). I keep seeing all the negatives &
> problems
> with Vista, is it really that bad for a non-technical user like myself?
> Should I be opting for XP instead, because if I do it seems to really
> limit
> available computer selection?


You'll want to go with Vista.

Just be sure you get the fastest computer you can, and depending on
your budget, 2 - 4 GB memory.

Once you've confirmed 64-Bit driver availablity for all you devices,
you way even want to consider using Vista x64. Most newer software that
will work under XP will work ok under Vista x64


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Old 02-05-2008, 07:33 PM
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Default Re: Vista or XP?

What is so bad about a four year old scanner then? They are just as good as
a brand new one.
Same for webcams.
No significant technical progress (except they are cheaper).
So why make them obsolete?

Vista is a rip off - just forces users to shell out loads of dosh for
replacement hardware and software that has no significant advantage.

Would you throw away a car every three or four years? Of course not! But
Vista insists that everything older than three years is "obsolete"!!!!

Tell me, what can Office 2007 do that Office 2003 cannot do? Answer -
absolutely nothing to anybody who lives in the real world.



"Cameron Snyder" <dntbther@tellpacbell.net> wrote in message
news:e3oP1uCaIHA.220@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Vista, of course, but don't expect to use your 5-year old scanner or your
> 4-year old webcam, not that you couldn't, but have those drivers been
> updated?
>
>
> "mh64" <mh64@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:0E052ADD-743A-4E58-9414-88780E9AE765@microsoft.com...
>> We are getting a new computer and generally only buy a new computer every
>> 5-6
>> years, so we take whatever OS comes on the computer at that
>> time(currently
>> using XP with no real issues). I keep seeing all the negatives & problems
>> with Vista, is it really that bad for a non-technical user like myself?
>> Should I be opting for XP instead, because if I do it seems to really
>> limit
>> available computer selection?

>


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Old 02-05-2008, 07:34 PM
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mh64 wrote:
> We are getting a new computer and generally only buy a new computer every 5-6
> years, so we take whatever OS comes on the computer at that time(currently
> using XP with no real issues). I keep seeing all the negatives & problems
> with Vista, is it really that bad for a non-technical user like myself?
> Should I be opting for XP instead, because if I do it seems to really limit
> available computer selection?


Wait a month or so if you can -- and make sure the Vista version comes
with SP1 updated (just released today). It is supposed to solve a lot of
the instability issues of Vista.

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