Triple-booting - which first?

I've been using WinXP Pro since it was first released and I'm very happy
with it. However, I have a requirement to learn about Vista and Linux so I
recently bought a 500GB hard drive and intend to partition it in the
following way: three partitions, each 50GB in size, one for XP, one for
Vista Ultimate and one for Linux (probably Ubuntu) with the remainder of the
disc probably split into either two or three partitions for music, photos
and user documents/data.

My question is, in what order do I install the operating systems, so that
when I power up the machine, I'm presented with the choice of which OS to
boot into?

Thanks,

John

Hi John,

XP/Vista/Linux

Only the Linux bootloader is capable of loading the other two. Window's
version cannot load Linux. Alternatively you can use a third party
bootloader that can handle any of them, then it won't matter which order you
install them in.

Alternately, you can use Virtual PC or a similar product under XP to install
and run Vista and Linux without having to repartition or worry about
bootloaders. You'll find it here:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

For installing Ubuntu in Virtual PC, you'll need to see this to correct
video and mouse issues:
http://haacked.com/archive/2007/05/0...ws-lovers.aspx

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Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"John" <replyingroup@notemail> wrote in message
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> I've been using WinXP Pro since it was first released and I'm very happy
> with it. However, I have a requirement to learn about Vista and Linux so I
> recently bought a 500GB hard drive and intend to partition it in the
> following way: three partitions, each 50GB in size, one for XP, one for
> Vista Ultimate and one for Linux (probably Ubuntu) with the remainder of
> the disc probably split into either two or three partitions for music,
> photos and user documents/data.
>
> My question is, in what order do I install the operating systems, so that
> when I power up the machine, I'm presented with the choice of which OS to
> boot into?
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
>

That's brilliant Rick, thanks very much.

John.

Rick Rogers wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> XP/Vista/Linux
>
> Only the Linux bootloader is capable of loading the other two.
> Window's version cannot load Linux. Alternatively you can use a third
> party bootloader that can handle any of them, then it won't matter
> which order you install them in.
>
> Alternately, you can use Virtual PC or a similar product under XP to
> install and run Vista and Linux without having to repartition or
> worry about bootloaders. You'll find it here:
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
>
> For installing Ubuntu in Virtual PC, you'll need to see this to
> correct video and mouse issues:
> http://haacked.com/archive/2007/05/0...ws-lovers.aspx
>
>
> "John" <replyingroup@notemail> wrote in message
> news:lLmdnd_E96UMhbXVnZ2dnUVZ8qydnZ2d@bt.com...
>> I've been using WinXP Pro since it was first released and I'm very
>> happy with it. However, I have a requirement to learn about Vista
>> and Linux so I recently bought a 500GB hard drive and intend to
>> partition it in the following way: three partitions, each 50GB in
>> size, one for XP, one for Vista Ultimate and one for Linux (probably
>> Ubuntu) with the remainder of the disc probably split into either
>> two or three partitions for music, photos and user documents/data.
>>
>> My question is, in what order do I install the operating systems, so
>> that when I power up the machine, I'm presented with the choice of
>> which OS to boot into?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> John

"John" <replyingroup@notemail> wrote in message
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> That's brilliant Rick, thanks very much.
>
> John.
>
John, you may also consider installing Ubuntu 8.04 using the Wibi installer
which is included in the Live CD of Ubuntu 8.04 ;Wubi installs the distro as
a virtual file in Windows .
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#he...37a215fec00d86

Regards

"Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
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> Hi John,
>
> XP/Vista/Linux
>
> Only the Linux bootloader is capable of loading the other two. Window's
> version cannot load Linux.

Wubi sets up windows loader to load linux or windows so it can boot linux
and it has been able to do so for years.

On Mon, 12 May 2008 20:31:11 +0100, dennis@home wrote:

>
>
> "Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:#3#t#sBtIHA.5268@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Hi John,
>>
>> XP/Vista/Linux
>>
>> Only the Linux bootloader is capable of loading the other two. Window's
>> version cannot load Linux.
>
> Wubi sets up windows loader to load linux or windows so it can boot linux
> and it has been able to do so for years.

Boots Linux from an ext3 partition or only a copy installed in wubi?

--
A lot of money is tainted: 'Taint yours, and 'taint mine.

"Trevor Best" <newsreply@besty.org.uk> wrote in message
newsan.2008.05.12.22.22.48.24484@besty.org.uk...
> On Mon, 12 May 2008 20:31:11 +0100, dennis@home wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:#3#t#sBtIHA.5268@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi John,
>>>
>>> XP/Vista/Linux
>>>
>>> Only the Linux bootloader is capable of loading the other two. Window's
>>> version cannot load Linux.
>>
>> Wubi sets up windows loader to load linux or windows so it can boot linux
>> and it has been able to do so for years.
>
> Boots Linux from an ext3 partition or only a copy installed in wubi?
>
> --
> A lot of money is tainted: 'Taint yours, and 'taint mine.

Only one issue with wubi... but I admit I have never run Ubuntu that way.

Do you get the FULL performance benefit of disk and network read/writes or
does the Vista drivers still cripple you?

For example, I can copy in files to vista at about 5mbs. In linux in a real
partition I get 100mbs. That is 20 times faster!

Question, is this hit not as bad in wubi? Is it worth the hit?

"dennis@home" <dennis@killspam.kicks-***.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Canuck57" <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> wrote in message
> news:_M5Wj.134364$rd2.105038@pd7urf3no...
>
>
>> Only one issue with wubi... but I admit I have never run Ubuntu that way.
>>
>> Do you get the FULL performance benefit of disk and network read/writes
>> or does the Vista drivers still cripple you?
>
> It doesn't use windows to run linux at all, wubi just sets up the machine
> for dual boot.
>
>>
>> For example, I can copy in files to vista at about 5mbs. In linux in a
>> real partition I get 100mbs. That is 20 times faster!
>
> So put the fixes on vista and get the full speed, its just as well I
> didn't talk about old unfixed versions of linux or you would be up in
> arms. Do you think you need to lie here like you do in the vista groups?
> Nobody here really cares about vista.

I have put fixes on it. I did get some performance improvements with one
applied just before SP1. But it was that much. SP1, didn't make much
difference. It is up to date including drivers. Still it sucks performance
wise to XP or Linux. I haven't had crashes people talk about, just
performance issues.

"Canuck57" <dave-no_spam@unixhome.net> wrote in message
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>
> does the Vista drivers still cripple you?
>
> For example, I can copy in files to vista at about 5mbs.

That just proves what an idiot you are

"Rick Rogers" wrote:
> XP/Vista/Linux
>
> Only the Linux bootloader is capable of loading the other two.
> Window's version cannot load Linux. Alternatively you can use
> a third party bootloader that can handle any of them, then it
> won't matter which order you install them in.

You're confusing boot manager and loader. Loaders are
OS-specific. Boot managers needn't be OS-specific. The
Windows boot managers have been able to direct Linux booting
for years, and the Linux boot manager has long been able to
direct Windows loading. All they have to do is to invoke the
appropriate loader. For instance, to let Vista direct the loading
of Linux, read this:
http://apcmag.com/how_to_dualboot_vi...lled_first.htm

And then read the last sentence of the tutorial:

"If instead of GRUB you want Vista's bootloader to be in charge,
load up the Vista installation and install EasyBCD. Go to
"Manage Bootloader", then "Reinstall the Vista Bootloader",
an[d] GRUB is overwritten. You can then configure the Vista
bootloader to add Linux to the boot menu."

In essence, GRUB should be installed in the Linux root partition
instead of in the MBR, and the Vista boot manager invokes GRUB
there.

*TimDaniels*