I was at first impressed with the built-in backup/restore feature in
Windows Vista. That was until I needed it when my hard disk crashed.
There are two major flaws.
1. If you try to make a complete PC restore in the Windows Recovery
Environment, and try to restore the boot disk onto a new disk, the
boot record will NOT be restored, even if you select to let the
program reformat the drive. This means that if you need to recreate
your boot disk, you first have to make a new install of Vista (and
thus create a boot record) and then restore the drive using WRE.
Otherwise your restored drive will not boot. The "system repair"
feature in WRE does not fix the boot record either.
2. After you have restored a complete PC backup and want to restore
your backed up files up to a later point, you will find out that this
is not possible. The "restore files" feature will only show backed up
files up to the point when you made the complete PC backup. The only
way to restore files from a later point in time is to manually open
the zip files on your backup drive, and copy them.
I am seriously wondering how drunk the developers where when they
wrote this backup program. The idea to store complete copies of your
hard drives as VHD-files and letting the setup program om the Vista
DVD be able to completely restore these, is smart in theory. It could
have been very neat... if it worked.
Another interesteing question is why it is not possible to restore
individual secondary drives. The only options are to either restore
only the boot drive or all drives. I guess you could mount the VHD-
files in a Virtual PC and then manually copy the files, but why do
they have this limitation?
Microsoft reminds me of my father, he was the smartest dumbest guy I ever met.
Amazing the software GIANT is a moron when it comes to this stuff. Why don't
they go buy Acronis...
jf
"gladiator180@hotmail.com" wrote:
> I was at first impressed with the built-in backup/restore feature in
> Windows Vista. That was until I needed it when my hard disk crashed.
> There are two major flaws.
>
> 1. If you try to make a complete PC restore in the Windows Recovery
> Environment, and try to restore the boot disk onto a new disk, the
> boot record will NOT be restored, even if you select to let the
> program reformat the drive. This means that if you need to recreate
> your boot disk, you first have to make a new install of Vista (and
> thus create a boot record) and then restore the drive using WRE.
> Otherwise your restored drive will not boot. The "system repair"
> feature in WRE does not fix the boot record either.
>
> 2. After you have restored a complete PC backup and want to restore
> your backed up files up to a later point, you will find out that this
> is not possible. The "restore files" feature will only show backed up
> files up to the point when you made the complete PC backup. The only
> way to restore files from a later point in time is to manually open
> the zip files on your backup drive, and copy them.
>
> I am seriously wondering how drunk the developers where when they
> wrote this backup program. The idea to store complete copies of your
> hard drives as VHD-files and letting the setup program om the Vista
> DVD be able to completely restore these, is smart in theory. It could
> have been very neat... if it worked.
>
> Another interesteing question is why it is not possible to restore
> individual secondary drives. The only options are to either restore
> only the boot drive or all drives. I guess you could mount the VHD-
> files in a Virtual PC and then manually copy the files, but why do
> they have this limitation?
>
>
> I was at first impressed with the built-in backup/restore feature in
> Windows Vista. That was until I needed it when my hard disk crashed.
> There are two major flaws.
>
> 1. If you try to make a complete PC restore in the Windows Recovery
> Environment, and try to restore the boot disk onto a new disk, the
> boot record will NOT be restored, even if you select to let the
> program reformat the drive. This means that if you need to recreate
> your boot disk, you first have to make a new install of Vista (and
> thus create a boot record) and then restore the drive using WRE.
> Otherwise your restored drive will not boot. The "system repair"
> feature in WRE does not fix the boot record either.
>
> 2. After you have restored a complete PC backup and want to restore
> your backed up files up to a later point, you will find out that this
> is not possible. The "restore files" feature will only show backed up
> files up to the point when you made the complete PC backup. The only
> way to restore files from a later point in time is to manually open
> the zip files on your backup drive, and copy them.
>
> I am seriously wondering how drunk the developers where when they
> wrote this backup program. The idea to store complete copies of your
> hard drives as VHD-files and letting the setup program om the Vista
> DVD be able to completely restore these, is smart in theory. It could
> have been very neat... if it worked.
>
> Another interesteing question is why it is not possible to restore
> individual secondary drives. The only options are to either restore
> only the boot drive or all drives. I guess you could mount the VHD-
> files in a Virtual PC and then manually copy the files, but why do
> they have this limitation?
This seems typical of Microsoft's included programs. They're all pretty much
half baked forcing one to look to spending money on a third party solution.
One would think that for the money they charge for this p.o.s. "operating
system" they'd do better than that. But, unfortunately they're either
unable or unwilling to be considerate of their customers.
Best Comments From Users:
Vista is satan's way to bring hell to earth. -Me
A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely
foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -Web
No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's
Faults -Everyone
"NoStop" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> gladiator180@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>> I was at first impressed with the built-in backup/restore feature in
>> Windows Vista. That was until I needed it when my hard disk crashed.
>> There are two major flaws.
>>
>> 1. If you try to make a complete PC restore in the Windows Recovery
>> Environment, and try to restore the boot disk onto a new disk, the
>> boot record will NOT be restored, even if you select to let the
>> program reformat the drive. This means that if you need to recreate
>> your boot disk, you first have to make a new install of Vista (and
>> thus create a boot record) and then restore the drive using WRE.
>> Otherwise your restored drive will not boot. The "system repair"
>> feature in WRE does not fix the boot record either.
>>
>> 2. After you have restored a complete PC backup and want to restore
>> your backed up files up to a later point, you will find out that this
>> is not possible. The "restore files" feature will only show backed up
>> files up to the point when you made the complete PC backup. The only
>> way to restore files from a later point in time is to manually open
>> the zip files on your backup drive, and copy them.
>>
>> I am seriously wondering how drunk the developers where when they
>> wrote this backup program. The idea to store complete copies of your
>> hard drives as VHD-files and letting the setup program om the Vista
>> DVD be able to completely restore these, is smart in theory. It could
>> have been very neat... if it worked.
>>
>> Another interesteing question is why it is not possible to restore
>> individual secondary drives. The only options are to either restore
>> only the boot drive or all drives. I guess you could mount the VHD-
>> files in a Virtual PC and then manually copy the files, but why do
>> they have this limitation?
>
> This seems typical of Microsoft's included programs. They're all pretty
> much
> half baked forcing one to look to spending money on a third party
> solution.
> One would think that for the money they charge for this p.o.s. "operating
> system" they'd do better than that. But, unfortunately they're either
> unable or unwilling to be considerate of their customers.
>
> Cheers.
>
> --
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> http://tinyurl.com/2w8qqo
>
> Do you use Linux? Everytime you "google", you're using Linux.
>
> Coming Soon! Ubuntu 7.10 ... New Features:
> http://lunapark6.com/ubuntu-gutsy-gi...-features.html
>
>
I have not seen one vista feature that is NOT stupid...
<gladiator180@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1192483144.650039.157490@k35g2000prh.googlegr oups.com...
>I was at first impressed with the built-in backup/restore feature in
> Windows Vista. That was until I needed it when my hard disk crashed.
> There are two major flaws.
>
> 1. If you try to make a complete PC restore in the Windows Recovery
> Environment, and try to restore the boot disk onto a new disk, the
> boot record will NOT be restored, even if you select to let the
> program reformat the drive. This means that if you need to recreate
> your boot disk, you first have to make a new install of Vista (and
> thus create a boot record) and then restore the drive using WRE.
> Otherwise your restored drive will not boot. The "system repair"
> feature in WRE does not fix the boot record either.
>
> 2. After you have restored a complete PC backup and want to restore
> your backed up files up to a later point, you will find out that this
> is not possible. The "restore files" feature will only show backed up
> files up to the point when you made the complete PC backup. The only
> way to restore files from a later point in time is to manually open
> the zip files on your backup drive, and copy them.
>
> I am seriously wondering how drunk the developers where when they
> wrote this backup program. The idea to store complete copies of your
> hard drives as VHD-files and letting the setup program om the Vista
> DVD be able to completely restore these, is smart in theory. It could
> have been very neat... if it worked.
>
> Another interesteing question is why it is not possible to restore
> individual secondary drives. The only options are to either restore
> only the boot drive or all drives. I guess you could mount the VHD-
> files in a Virtual PC and then manually copy the files, but why do
> they have this limitation?
>
<gladiator180@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1192483144.650039.157490@k35g2000prh.googlegr oups.com...
> I was at first impressed with the built-in backup/restore feature in
> Windows Vista. That was until I needed it when my hard disk crashed.
> There are two major flaws.
>
> 1. If you try to make a complete PC restore in the Windows Recovery
> Environment, and try to restore the boot disk onto a new disk, the
> boot record will NOT be restored, even if you select to let the
> program reformat the drive. This means that if you need to recreate
> your boot disk, you first have to make a new install of Vista (and
> thus create a boot record) and then restore the drive using WRE.
> Otherwise your restored drive will not boot. The "system repair"
> feature in WRE does not fix the boot record either.
>
> 2. After you have restored a complete PC backup and want to restore
> your backed up files up to a later point, you will find out that this
> is not possible. The "restore files" feature will only show backed up
> files up to the point when you made the complete PC backup. The only
> way to restore files from a later point in time is to manually open
> the zip files on your backup drive, and copy them.
>
> I am seriously wondering how drunk the developers where when they
> wrote this backup program. The idea to store complete copies of your
> hard drives as VHD-files and letting the setup program om the Vista
> DVD be able to completely restore these, is smart in theory. It could
> have been very neat... if it worked.
>
> Another interesteing question is why it is not possible to restore
> individual secondary drives. The only options are to either restore
> only the boot drive or all drives. I guess you could mount the VHD-
> files in a Virtual PC and then manually copy the files, but why do
> they have this limitation?
>
not that this directly addresses your issue but, why not stop killing
yourself and just backup online..
I use Carbonite: www.carbonite.com
for $50 and it's a no brainer...all automatic and if your pc meets its
maker...you can easily restore all your files...
disclaimer: I have zero commercial interest in carbonite...:0)
gladiator180@hotmail.com wrote:
> I was at first impressed with the built-in backup/restore feature in
> Windows Vista. That was until I needed it when my hard disk crashed.
> There are two major flaws.
>
> 1. If you try to make a complete PC restore in the Windows Recovery
> Environment, and try to restore the boot disk onto a new disk, the
> boot record will NOT be restored, even if you select to let the
> program reformat the drive. This means that if you need to recreate
> your boot disk, you first have to make a new install of Vista (and
> thus create a boot record) and then restore the drive using WRE.
> Otherwise your restored drive will not boot. The "system repair"
> feature in WRE does not fix the boot record either.
>
> 2. After you have restored a complete PC backup and want to restore
> your backed up files up to a later point, you will find out that this
> is not possible. The "restore files" feature will only show backed up
> files up to the point when you made the complete PC backup. The only
> way to restore files from a later point in time is to manually open
> the zip files on your backup drive, and copy them.
>
> I am seriously wondering how drunk the developers where when they
> wrote this backup program. The idea to store complete copies of your
> hard drives as VHD-files and letting the setup program om the Vista
> DVD be able to completely restore these, is smart in theory. It could
> have been very neat... if it worked.
>
> Another interesteing question is why it is not possible to restore
> individual secondary drives. The only options are to either restore
> only the boot drive or all drives. I guess you could mount the VHD-
> files in a Virtual PC and then manually copy the files, but why do
> they have this limitation?
>
Back up to an external hard drive, with software that backs up
everything including programs and registry.
he pounds on they keyboard like a monkey swinging the mouse around with his
tail...
its a miracle he is able to type the crap he does
"Adam Albright" <AA@ABC.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:30:03 -0700, Frank <fb@osspan.clm> wrote:
>
>>Taibear ios wrote:
>>
>>> stupidest backup on the stupidest OS in history..
>>>
>>> I have not seen one vista feature that is NOT stupid...
>>>
>>>
>>First you need to install Vista.
>>Then you need to learn how to use it (could be very difficult for a
>>moron like you).
>
> You would know about morons. Remember, you told us it took you six
> months to learn how to use Vista and only then with help of your
> "consultants", as you called them, the guy on the other end of the
> phone on Microsoft's support line. That's was priceless! Thanks for
> sharing that.
>
>>than you will be intelligently criticizing Vista.
>
> Wow Frank, I'm impressed! You put two multi syllable words together in
> the same sentence. Some day you may even learn what they mean.
>
The stupidest backup feature in history 
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