restore points

i'm using vista home premium. when i shut down or do a restsart i loose all
my restore points. never had this problem with XP. any ideas? i'm not an
expert so i expect there might be a simple tweek

That is the exact problem if you dual boot Vista and XP!
Are you?
--
Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia


"huggybee" wrote:

> i'm using vista home premium. when i shut down or do a restsart i loose all
> my restore points. never had this problem with XP. any ideas? i'm not an
> expert so i expect there might be a simple tweek

no it's not a duel boot, this is a different computer that came with vista
bundled

"Mick Murphy" wrote:

> That is the exact problem if you dual boot Vista and XP!
> Are you?
> --
> Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia
>
>
> "huggybee" wrote:
>
> > i'm using vista home premium. when i shut down or do a restsart i loose all
> > my restore points. never had this problem with XP. any ideas? i'm not an
> > expert so i expect there might be a simple tweek

"huggybee" <huggybee@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> i'm using vista home premium. when i shut down or do a restsart i loose
> all
> my restore points. never had this problem with XP. any ideas? i'm not an
> expert so i expect there might be a simple tweek

Believe me, I sympathise But a little more information is needed to
understand the problem better...

Do you shut down the computer frrequently?

I believe Vista will normally create System Restore points every day
(midnight-ish) or at Startup if it has been >24 hours since the last one (as
well as on application of Updates etc.).If you have no restore points at all
and you don't restart frequently, I am surprised that they are *all* gone -
I would have expected there to be at least 1 "left" - the one created at
startup.

How many restore points did you have (roughly)? How often has this happened?
At what interval?

A little more information on the PC itself would be helpful too... what is
the size of your C drive?

One possibility: I have read about (though not experienced myself) is that
some "older" utilities such as disk de-fragmenters are not "aware" of the
special "area" that Vista uses for System Restore points and can effectively
clear them. Do you have any 3rd party disk utilities in use?
--
Julian I-Do-Stuff

Some Vista stuff, but mostly just Stuff at http://berossus,blogspot.com

Just about the same problem here, except my restore points disappear within
hours of being created even without a reboot.
Vista Home Premium 32 bits. Do not dual boot. Plenty of disk space.
Any help would be appreciated.



"huggybee" <huggybee@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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i'm using vista home premium. when i shut down or do a restsart i loose all
my restore points. never had this problem with XP. any ideas? i'm not an
expert so i expect there might be a simple tweek

Here's a suggestion to help acquire some relevant information... if you
could post the results back it here it could help

From the Start menu, find Cmd and "run as Administrator"
Type (without the quotes) "vssadmin List ShadowStorage"

Make a note of the time and the Used, Allocated and Maximum storage space
values...

Do this periodically over the course of a day (>24hours) and post the
results back here...

You could also try looking in the Event Viewer for events due to "SR"
(System Restore) and volsnap, which periodically "cleans up" the
ShadowStorage area...
Your results might be illuminating...

....it is a bit dark at the moment

One (?) final (??) question - do you have any large multimedia files... are
you editing video? Do you have TV recording on the PC?

Julian I-Do-Stuff

Some Vista stuff, but mostly just Stuff at http://berossus,blogspot.com

"Nameless" <Vistauser@helpneeded.net> wrote in message
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> Just about the same problem here, except my restore points disappear
> within
> hours of being created even without a reboot.
> Vista Home Premium 32 bits. Do not dual boot. Plenty of disk space.
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
>
>
> "huggybee" <huggybee@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C3F12A0A-F1F2-4F1C-AB73-7EAE86A212F9@microsoft.com...
> i'm using vista home premium. when i shut down or do a restsart i loose
> all
> my restore points. never had this problem with XP. any ideas? i'm not an
> expert so i expect there might be a simple tweek
>

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System Restore in Windows Vista: http://bertk.mvps.org/html/vista.html

Point at the menu to see some options.

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"huggybee" <huggybee@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> no it's not a duel boot, this is a different computer that came with vista
> bundled
>
> "Mick Murphy" wrote:
>
>> That is the exact problem if you dual boot Vista and XP!
>> Are you?
>> --
>> Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia
>>
>>
>> "huggybee" wrote:
>>
>> > i'm using vista home premium. when i shut down or do a restsart i loose
>> > all
>> > my restore points. never had this problem with XP. any ideas? i'm not
>> > an
>> > expert so i expect there might be a simple tweek

Been there, done that. A lot of information, but no help with this
particular problem.


"Mark L. Ferguson" <MarkLFerguson@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
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System Restore in Windows Vista: http://bertk.mvps.org/html/vista.html

Point at the menu to see some options.

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"huggybee" <huggybee@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:383C46CE-BC9A-410E-B547-1840B5718D7C@microsoft.com...
> no it's not a duel boot, this is a different computer that came with vista
> bundled
>
> "Mick Murphy" wrote:
>
>> That is the exact problem if you dual boot Vista and XP!
>> Are you?
>> --
>> Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia
>>
>>
>> "huggybee" wrote:
>>
>> > i'm using vista home premium. when i shut down or do a restsart i loose
>> > all
>> > my restore points. never had this problem with XP. any ideas? i'm not
>> > an
>> > expert so i expect there might be a simple tweek

"huggybee" <huggybee@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C3F12A0A-F1F2-4F1C-AB73-7EAE86A212F9@microsoft.com...
> i'm using vista home premium. when i shut down or do a restsart i loose all
> my restore points. never had this problem with XP. any ideas? i'm not an
> expert so i expect there might be a simple tweek

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/12...ot-delete.html

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926185



-Michael

Thx julian,
I opened the event viewer and looked in the first folder "Custom Views" to
find Administrative Events. there i found loads of warnings and errors. some
errors are volsnap event id 25 (from around the times i was creating mannual
restore points and rebooting to test various 3rd party software).
when i click on the volsnap entry the following message appears below with
some other info.
"The shadow copies of volume C: were deleted because the shadow copy storage
could not grow in time. Consider reducing the IO load on the system or choose
a shadow copy storage volume that is not being copied"
I have no idea what this all means or how to reduce the load or change the
shadow copy storage.
is it something i could do if it was explained to me in very simple terms
considering that i'm just your average home computer user and never open
things like event viewer.
"Julian" wrote:

> Here's a suggestion to help acquire some relevant information... if you
> could post the results back it here it could help
>
> From the Start menu, find Cmd and "run as Administrator"
> Type (without the quotes) "vssadmin List ShadowStorage"
>
> Make a note of the time and the Used, Allocated and Maximum storage space
> values...
>
> Do this periodically over the course of a day (>24hours) and post the
> results back here...
>
> You could also try looking in the Event Viewer for events due to "SR"
> (System Restore) and volsnap, which periodically "cleans up" the
> ShadowStorage area...
> Your results might be illuminating...
>
> ....it is a bit dark at the moment
>
> One (?) final (??) question - do you have any large multimedia files... are
> you editing video? Do you have TV recording on the PC?
>
> Julian I-Do-Stuff
>
> Some Vista stuff, but mostly just Stuff at http://berossus,blogspot.com
>
> "Nameless" <Vistauser@helpneeded.net> wrote in message
> news:%23SY9WX5eIHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > Just about the same problem here, except my restore points disappear
> > within
> > hours of being created even without a reboot.
> > Vista Home Premium 32 bits. Do not dual boot. Plenty of disk space.
> > Any help would be appreciated.
> >
> >
> >
> > "huggybee" <huggybee@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:C3F12A0A-F1F2-4F1C-AB73-7EAE86A212F9@microsoft.com...
> > i'm using vista home premium. when i shut down or do a restsart i loose
> > all
> > my restore points. never had this problem with XP. any ideas? i'm not an
> > expert so i expect there might be a simple tweek
> >
>
> --
>
>