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  #11  
Old 03-01-2008, 02:51 PM
huggybee
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Default Re: restore points

maybe i should also say i have 117gb of free space on C:

"Julian" wrote:

> Here's a suggestion to help acquire some relevant information... if you
> could post the results back it here it could help
>
> From the Start menu, find Cmd and "run as Administrator"
> Type (without the quotes) "vssadmin List ShadowStorage"
>
> Make a note of the time and the Used, Allocated and Maximum storage space
> values...
>
> Do this periodically over the course of a day (>24hours) and post the
> results back here...
>
> You could also try looking in the Event Viewer for events due to "SR"
> (System Restore) and volsnap, which periodically "cleans up" the
> ShadowStorage area...
> Your results might be illuminating...
>
> ....it is a bit dark at the moment
>
> One (?) final (??) question - do you have any large multimedia files... are
> you editing video? Do you have TV recording on the PC?
>
> Julian I-Do-Stuff
>
> Some Vista stuff, but mostly just Stuff at http://berossus,blogspot.com
>
> "Nameless" <Vistauser@helpneeded.net> wrote in message
> news:%23SY9WX5eIHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> > Just about the same problem here, except my restore points disappear
> > within
> > hours of being created even without a reboot.
> > Vista Home Premium 32 bits. Do not dual boot. Plenty of disk space.
> > Any help would be appreciated.
> >
> >
> >
> > "huggybee" <huggybee@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:C3F12A0A-F1F2-4F1C-AB73-7EAE86A212F9@microsoft.com...
> > i'm using vista home premium. when i shut down or do a restsart i loose
> > all
> > my restore points. never had this problem with XP. any ideas? i'm not an
> > expert so i expect there might be a simple tweek
> >

>
> --
>
>

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  #12  
Old 03-01-2008, 06:42 PM
Julian
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Default Re: restore points

OK - I'm assuming you don't dual boot 'cos I expect you would have said so
by now...

However, I don't know that I can help much further execept with some general
observations...

Manual restore points, rebooting, testing 3rd party software... depending on
how much stuff had been touched this could perhaps explain why the allocated
space was used up. I believe Vista will take a Restore Point (apart from
schedule restore points) on installs and uninstalls, updates, etc., so you
could quite quickly fill up the restore point space... but you should still
have the last few left according to this scenario so I'm not quite sure
what's going on... unless it's other stuff that is being saved in
ShadowStorage also as a result of your installs etc.

Vista of all flavours takes shadow copies of files too - if you were, e.g.
installing an Encyclopedia from DVD and put it all on disk, then removed it,
a DVD's worth of files would probably have been kept in ShadowStorage...
possibly pushing out System Restore points. {Hence why I mentioned e.g video
editing)

As to the rest... 117GB free means Vista would have plenty of space to grow
shadowstorage into but... it won't normally take more than 15% of total
drive capacity. Let's say you have a 200GB drive, that would be nominally
30GB MAX for ShadowStorage - the actual amount allocated will be smaller
than that and the amount used will be smaller still. Sadly I don't know
about the "could not grow in time" consideration... and I don't know what it
means unfortunately; how you might manage IO during installs etc. is
unclear... maybe you just need to allow a longer interval before doing
more/initiating further activity e.g. wait until the disk light has stopped
flashing vigourously - maybe to allow transaction processing to catch up - A
Speculative Question I'm afraid.

Should you allocate more space? I'm not about to recommend manually tweaking
ShadowStorage allocations because I haven't tried it myself, but "vssadmin
resize shadowstorage /?" will show you the options and the syntax if you
want to do this... it could be worth a try but I would strongly recommend
googling the subject a bit more first. I believe that resizing will
effectively wipe current history, so be sure either that it doesn't or that
your system is in a good state or otherwise backed up if you do proceed.

That's probably not a great deal of help, but its the best I can do at the
moment...

"huggybee" <huggybee@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E968A3FB-1992-445E-ABD6-B74053771686@microsoft.com...
> Thx julian,
> I opened the event viewer and looked in the first folder "Custom Views" to
> find Administrative Events. there i found loads of warnings and errors.
> some
> errors are volsnap event id 25 (from around the times i was creating
> mannual
> restore points and rebooting to test various 3rd party software).
> when i click on the volsnap entry the following message appears below with
> some other info.
> "The shadow copies of volume C: were deleted because the shadow copy
> storage
> could not grow in time. Consider reducing the IO load on the system or
> choose
> a shadow copy storage volume that is not being copied"
> I have no idea what this all means or how to reduce the load or change the
> shadow copy storage.
> is it something i could do if it was explained to me in very simple terms
> considering that i'm just your average home computer user and never open
> things like event viewer.
> "Julian" wrote:
>
>> Here's a suggestion to help acquire some relevant information... if you
>> could post the results back it here it could help
>>
>> From the Start menu, find Cmd and "run as Administrator"
>> Type (without the quotes) "vssadmin List ShadowStorage"
>>
>> Make a note of the time and the Used, Allocated and Maximum storage space
>> values...
>>
>> Do this periodically over the course of a day (>24hours) and post the
>> results back here...
>>
>> You could also try looking in the Event Viewer for events due to "SR"
>> (System Restore) and volsnap, which periodically "cleans up" the
>> ShadowStorage area...
>> Your results might be illuminating...
>>
>> ....it is a bit dark at the moment
>>
>> One (?) final (??) question - do you have any large multimedia files...
>> are
>> you editing video? Do you have TV recording on the PC?
>>
>> Julian I-Do-Stuff
>>
>> Some Vista stuff, but mostly just Stuff at http://berossus,blogspot.com
>>
>> "Nameless" <Vistauser@helpneeded.net> wrote in message
>> news:%23SY9WX5eIHA.1184@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> > Just about the same problem here, except my restore points disappear
>> > within
>> > hours of being created even without a reboot.
>> > Vista Home Premium 32 bits. Do not dual boot. Plenty of disk space.
>> > Any help would be appreciated.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "huggybee" <huggybee@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > news:C3F12A0A-F1F2-4F1C-AB73-7EAE86A212F9@microsoft.com...
>> > i'm using vista home premium. when i shut down or do a restsart i loose
>> > all
>> > my restore points. never had this problem with XP. any ideas? i'm not
>> > an
>> > expert so i expect there might be a simple tweek
>> >

>>
>> --
>>
>>


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Old 03-01-2008, 06:55 PM
Bob
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Default Re: restore points



"Julian" <msforums@tiger2.notthisbit.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
I believe that resizing will
> effectively wipe current history,


It does. After resizing immediately create a restore point.
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