Long Goodbye & Magically Vanishing Hard Drive

There have been multiple reports of disk copy problems with
Vista/Windows Server 2008 (Server Longhorn).
The "Long Goodbye" is The Register's moniker for inexplicably slow file
copying including system hangs.
See: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05...bye_continues/

The "Vanishing Hard Drive" is a bizarre problem in which copying large
amounts of data from one SATA II hard drive to another results in a
system hang and the complete disappearance of any reference to the SATA
drive from which information is being copied. We have repeatedly
encountered this problem with copying of 5+GB of data from one SATA II
drive to another or by using Microsoft's "Backup" application program.

In our experience, the error has been a consistent problem with a SATA
II to SATA II transfer using the on-board controller on an EVGA 680i SLI
motherboard and the Windows Server 2008 operating system. The problem
also occurs with copying of data from an "on-board" controlled SATA
drive to one that is attached to a SIIG PCIe controller. It does not
happen with a copy from a SATA II drive on the on-board controller to
one that is attached by a USB 2.0 connection. This is an interesting
finding because one important difference is that there is a slower data
transfer rate suggesting that a source of the problem may be timing
errors. Changing SATA II drives hasn't corrected the problem nor has
installing the latest BIOS and driver updates. Interestingly, there have
been no copy failures using while running SATA II drives with the same
operating system on a Dell PowerEdge 1800.

The problem appears to be due to some combination of hardware and driver
problems that occur with prolonged, high speed SATA II transfers. The
operating system appears to inappropriately respond to the condition by
completely disconnecting the drive and coming to a dead stop. The drive
can only be re-attached after a cold start.

Robert as your problems are related to the beta of Windows Server 2008 you
have posted to the wrong newsgroup.
This is the general peer to peer support newsgroup for Windows Vista.
Pleas repost to microsoft.public.windows.server.prerelease
--
Mike Brannigan

"Robert Robinson" <robbiex@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:uypRpVInHHA.4120@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> There have been multiple reports of disk copy problems with Vista/Windows
> Server 2008 (Server Longhorn).
> The "Long Goodbye" is The Register's moniker for inexplicably slow file
> copying including system hangs.
> See:
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05...bye_continues/
>
> The "Vanishing Hard Drive" is a bizarre problem in which copying large
> amounts of data from one SATA II hard drive to another results in a system
> hang and the complete disappearance of any reference to the SATA drive
> from which information is being copied. We have repeatedly encountered
> this problem with copying of 5+GB of data from one SATA II drive to
> another or by using Microsoft's "Backup" application program.
>
> In our experience, the error has been a consistent problem with a SATA II
> to SATA II transfer using the on-board controller on an EVGA 680i SLI
> motherboard and the Windows Server 2008 operating system. The problem also
> occurs with copying of data from an "on-board" controlled SATA drive to
> one that is attached to a SIIG PCIe controller. It does not happen with a
> copy from a SATA II drive on the on-board controller to one that is
> attached by a USB 2.0 connection. This is an interesting finding because
> one important difference is that there is a slower data transfer rate
> suggesting that a source of the problem may be timing errors. Changing
> SATA II drives hasn't corrected the problem nor has installing the latest
> BIOS and driver updates. Interestingly, there have been no copy failures
> using while running SATA II drives with the same operating system on a
> Dell PowerEdge 1800.
>
> The problem appears to be due to some combination of hardware and driver
> problems that occur with prolonged, high speed SATA II transfers. The
> operating system appears to inappropriately respond to the condition by
> completely disconnecting the drive and coming to a dead stop. The drive
> can only be re-attached after a cold start.

No mike he said quote "Vista/Windows Server 2008 (Server Longhorn)." take
note of the "Vista".


"Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan@localhost> wrote in message
news:B827048E-3F2F-44ED-AAF7-80ECA1DEF13D@microsoft.com...
> Robert as your problems are related to the beta of Windows Server 2008 you
> have posted to the wrong newsgroup.
> This is the general peer to peer support newsgroup for Windows Vista.
> Pleas repost to microsoft.public.windows.server.prerelease
> --
> Mike Brannigan
>
> "Robert Robinson" <robbiex@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:uypRpVInHHA.4120@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> There have been multiple reports of disk copy problems with Vista/Windows
>> Server 2008 (Server Longhorn).
>> The "Long Goodbye" is The Register's moniker for inexplicably slow file
>> copying including system hangs.
>> See:
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05...bye_continues/
>>
>> The "Vanishing Hard Drive" is a bizarre problem in which copying large
>> amounts of data from one SATA II hard drive to another results in a
>> system hang and the complete disappearance of any reference to the SATA
>> drive from which information is being copied. We have repeatedly
>> encountered this problem with copying of 5+GB of data from one SATA II
>> drive to another or by using Microsoft's "Backup" application program.
>>
>> In our experience, the error has been a consistent problem with a SATA II
>> to SATA II transfer using the on-board controller on an EVGA 680i SLI
>> motherboard and the Windows Server 2008 operating system. The problem
>> also occurs with copying of data from an "on-board" controlled SATA drive
>> to one that is attached to a SIIG PCIe controller. It does not happen
>> with a copy from a SATA II drive on the on-board controller to one that
>> is attached by a USB 2.0 connection. This is an interesting finding
>> because one important difference is that there is a slower data transfer
>> rate suggesting that a source of the problem may be timing errors.
>> Changing SATA II drives hasn't corrected the problem nor has installing
>> the latest BIOS and driver updates. Interestingly, there have been no
>> copy failures using while running SATA II drives with the same operating
>> system on a Dell PowerEdge 1800.
>>
>> The problem appears to be due to some combination of hardware and driver
>> problems that occur with prolonged, high speed SATA II transfers. The
>> operating system appears to inappropriately respond to the condition by
>> completely disconnecting the drive and coming to a dead stop. The drive
>> can only be re-attached after a cold start.
>

"DX" <mine@> wrote in message
news:%23I3WZgInHHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> No mike he said quote "Vista/Windows Server 2008 (Server Longhorn)." take
> note of the "Vista".
>
>

The Vista reference is only to the short "Long Goodbye" mention

He then said about the lengthy description of his problem the "Vanishing
Hard Drive"

Quote "...
In our experience, the error has been a consistent problem with a SATA II
to SATA II transfer using the on-board controller on an EVGA 680i SLI
motherboard and the Windows Server 2008 operating system ..."

Take note of the "Windows Server 2008"
--

Mike Brannigan

"DX" <mine@> wrote in message
news:%23I3WZgInHHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> No mike he said quote "Vista/Windows Server 2008 (Server Longhorn)." take
> note of the "Vista".
>
>
> "Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan@localhost> wrote in message
> news:B827048E-3F2F-44ED-AAF7-80ECA1DEF13D@microsoft.com...
>> Robert as your problems are related to the beta of Windows Server 2008
>> you have posted to the wrong newsgroup.
>> This is the general peer to peer support newsgroup for Windows Vista.
>> Pleas repost to microsoft.public.windows.server.prerelease
>> --
>> Mike Brannigan
>>
>> "Robert Robinson" <robbiex@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:uypRpVInHHA.4120@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> There have been multiple reports of disk copy problems with
>>> Vista/Windows Server 2008 (Server Longhorn).
>>> The "Long Goodbye" is The Register's moniker for inexplicably slow file
>>> copying including system hangs.
>>> See:
>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05...bye_continues/
>>>
>>> The "Vanishing Hard Drive" is a bizarre problem in which copying large
>>> amounts of data from one SATA II hard drive to another results in a
>>> system hang and the complete disappearance of any reference to the SATA
>>> drive from which information is being copied. We have repeatedly
>>> encountered this problem with copying of 5+GB of data from one SATA II
>>> drive to another or by using Microsoft's "Backup" application program.
>>>
>>> In our experience, the error has been a consistent problem with a SATA
>>> II to SATA II transfer using the on-board controller on an EVGA 680i SLI
>>> motherboard and the Windows Server 2008 operating system. The problem
>>> also occurs with copying of data from an "on-board" controlled SATA
>>> drive to one that is attached to a SIIG PCIe controller. It does not
>>> happen with a copy from a SATA II drive on the on-board controller to
>>> one that is attached by a USB 2.0 connection. This is an interesting
>>> finding because one important difference is that there is a slower data
>>> transfer rate suggesting that a source of the problem may be timing
>>> errors. Changing SATA II drives hasn't corrected the problem nor has
>>> installing the latest BIOS and driver updates. Interestingly, there have
>>> been no copy failures using while running SATA II drives with the same
>>> operating system on a Dell PowerEdge 1800.
>>>
>>> The problem appears to be due to some combination of hardware and driver
>>> problems that occur with prolonged, high speed SATA II transfers. The
>>> operating system appears to inappropriately respond to the condition by
>>> completely disconnecting the drive and coming to a dead stop. The drive
>>> can only be re-attached after a cold start.
>>
>

I assume you did not read the article he is referring to then, that quotes
"Vista" and funnily enough my "Vista" ultimate has experienced a lot of the
issues of the article when it comes to file copying/deleting etc...

maybe i need to go a get help from the "Windows 2008 Server also then ???"

"Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan@localhost> wrote in message
news:ECB4F5A3-12E7-4AA1-91F6-59DF0FC20C0E@microsoft.com...
> "DX" <mine@> wrote in message
> news:%23I3WZgInHHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> No mike he said quote "Vista/Windows Server 2008 (Server Longhorn)." take
>> note of the "Vista".
>>
>>
>
> The Vista reference is only to the short "Long Goodbye" mention
>
> He then said about the lengthy description of his problem the "Vanishing
> Hard Drive"
>
> Quote "...
> In our experience, the error has been a consistent problem with a SATA II
> to SATA II transfer using the on-board controller on an EVGA 680i SLI
> motherboard and the Windows Server 2008 operating system ..."
>
> Take note of the "Windows Server 2008"
> --
>
> Mike Brannigan
>
> "DX" <mine@> wrote in message
> news:%23I3WZgInHHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> No mike he said quote "Vista/Windows Server 2008 (Server Longhorn)." take
>> note of the "Vista".
>>
>>
>> "Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan@localhost> wrote in message
>> news:B827048E-3F2F-44ED-AAF7-80ECA1DEF13D@microsoft.com...
>>> Robert as your problems are related to the beta of Windows Server 2008
>>> you have posted to the wrong newsgroup.
>>> This is the general peer to peer support newsgroup for Windows Vista.
>>> Pleas repost to microsoft.public.windows.server.prerelease
>>> --
>>> Mike Brannigan
>>>
>>> "Robert Robinson" <robbiex@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>> news:uypRpVInHHA.4120@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> There have been multiple reports of disk copy problems with
>>>> Vista/Windows Server 2008 (Server Longhorn).
>>>> The "Long Goodbye" is The Register's moniker for inexplicably slow file
>>>> copying including system hangs.
>>>> See:
>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05...bye_continues/
>>>>
>>>> The "Vanishing Hard Drive" is a bizarre problem in which copying large
>>>> amounts of data from one SATA II hard drive to another results in a
>>>> system hang and the complete disappearance of any reference to the SATA
>>>> drive from which information is being copied. We have repeatedly
>>>> encountered this problem with copying of 5+GB of data from one SATA II
>>>> drive to another or by using Microsoft's "Backup" application program.
>>>>
>>>> In our experience, the error has been a consistent problem with a SATA
>>>> II to SATA II transfer using the on-board controller on an EVGA 680i
>>>> SLI motherboard and the Windows Server 2008 operating system. The
>>>> problem also occurs with copying of data from an "on-board" controlled
>>>> SATA drive to one that is attached to a SIIG PCIe controller. It does
>>>> not happen with a copy from a SATA II drive on the on-board controller
>>>> to one that is attached by a USB 2.0 connection. This is an interesting
>>>> finding because one important difference is that there is a slower data
>>>> transfer rate suggesting that a source of the problem may be timing
>>>> errors. Changing SATA II drives hasn't corrected the problem nor has
>>>> installing the latest BIOS and driver updates. Interestingly, there
>>>> have been no copy failures using while running SATA II drives with the
>>>> same operating system on a Dell PowerEdge 1800.
>>>>
>>>> The problem appears to be due to some combination of hardware and
>>>> driver problems that occur with prolonged, high speed SATA II
>>>> transfers. The operating system appears to inappropriately respond to
>>>> the condition by completely disconnecting the drive and coming to a
>>>> dead stop. The drive can only be re-attached after a cold start.
>>>
>>
>

"DX" <mine@> wrote in message
news:B478F107-3728-4080-B47D-91BAFF486DE2@microsoft.com...
>I assume you did not read the article he is referring to then, that quotes
>"Vista" and funnily enough my "Vista" ultimate has experienced a lot of the
>issues of the article when it comes to file copying/deleting etc...
>
> maybe i need to go a get help from the "Windows 2008 Server also then ???"
>

yes I am aware of the article about the Long Goodbye ( a Vista issue) BUT
the body of the original poster referred to the vanishing hard drive under
Windows Server 2008.

As an aside I wonder if those experiencing delays in file copy have disabled
both the IPv6 and Windows Differential Compression features as doing so
increases file copy speed.

--

Mike Brannigan

"DX" <mine@> wrote in message
news:B478F107-3728-4080-B47D-91BAFF486DE2@microsoft.com...
>I assume you did not read the article he is referring to then, that quotes
>"Vista" and funnily enough my "Vista" ultimate has experienced a lot of the
>issues of the article when it comes to file copying/deleting etc...
>
> maybe i need to go a get help from the "Windows 2008 Server also then ???"
>
> "Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan@localhost> wrote in message
> news:ECB4F5A3-12E7-4AA1-91F6-59DF0FC20C0E@microsoft.com...
>> "DX" <mine@> wrote in message
>> news:%23I3WZgInHHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> No mike he said quote "Vista/Windows Server 2008 (Server Longhorn)."
>>> take note of the "Vista".
>>>
>>>
>>
>> The Vista reference is only to the short "Long Goodbye" mention
>>
>> He then said about the lengthy description of his problem the "Vanishing
>> Hard Drive"
>>
>> Quote "...
>> In our experience, the error has been a consistent problem with a SATA II
>> to SATA II transfer using the on-board controller on an EVGA 680i SLI
>> motherboard and the Windows Server 2008 operating system ..."
>>
>> Take note of the "Windows Server 2008"
>> --
>>
>> Mike Brannigan
>>
>> "DX" <mine@> wrote in message
>> news:%23I3WZgInHHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> No mike he said quote "Vista/Windows Server 2008 (Server Longhorn)."
>>> take note of the "Vista".
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan@localhost> wrote in message
>>> news:B827048E-3F2F-44ED-AAF7-80ECA1DEF13D@microsoft.com...
>>>> Robert as your problems are related to the beta of Windows Server 2008
>>>> you have posted to the wrong newsgroup.
>>>> This is the general peer to peer support newsgroup for Windows Vista.
>>>> Pleas repost to microsoft.public.windows.server.prerelease
>>>> --
>>>> Mike Brannigan
>>>>
>>>> "Robert Robinson" <robbiex@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:uypRpVInHHA.4120@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> There have been multiple reports of disk copy problems with
>>>>> Vista/Windows Server 2008 (Server Longhorn).
>>>>> The "Long Goodbye" is The Register's moniker for inexplicably slow
>>>>> file copying including system hangs.
>>>>> See:
>>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05...bye_continues/
>>>>>
>>>>> The "Vanishing Hard Drive" is a bizarre problem in which copying large
>>>>> amounts of data from one SATA II hard drive to another results in a
>>>>> system hang and the complete disappearance of any reference to the
>>>>> SATA drive from which information is being copied. We have repeatedly
>>>>> encountered this problem with copying of 5+GB of data from one SATA II
>>>>> drive to another or by using Microsoft's "Backup" application program.
>>>>>
>>>>> In our experience, the error has been a consistent problem with a SATA
>>>>> II to SATA II transfer using the on-board controller on an EVGA 680i
>>>>> SLI motherboard and the Windows Server 2008 operating system. The
>>>>> problem also occurs with copying of data from an "on-board" controlled
>>>>> SATA drive to one that is attached to a SIIG PCIe controller. It does
>>>>> not happen with a copy from a SATA II drive on the on-board controller
>>>>> to one that is attached by a USB 2.0 connection. This is an
>>>>> interesting finding because one important difference is that there is
>>>>> a slower data transfer rate suggesting that a source of the problem
>>>>> may be timing errors. Changing SATA II drives hasn't corrected the
>>>>> problem nor has installing the latest BIOS and driver updates.
>>>>> Interestingly, there have been no copy failures using while running
>>>>> SATA II drives with the same operating system on a Dell PowerEdge
>>>>> 1800.
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem appears to be due to some combination of hardware and
>>>>> driver problems that occur with prolonged, high speed SATA II
>>>>> transfers. The operating system appears to inappropriately respond to
>>>>> the condition by completely disconnecting the drive and coming to a
>>>>> dead stop. The drive can only be re-attached after a cold start.
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

Mike,

Thanks for the tip will try that, the thing is why should a user have to
disable 2 features to have there computer perform the basics, surely this
should of been top of the list of things to work before release!!!!


"Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan@localhost> wrote in message
news:6A475C5A-83AC-422C-8D3D-BD7B987F6F9B@microsoft.com...
>
> "DX" <mine@> wrote in message
> news:B478F107-3728-4080-B47D-91BAFF486DE2@microsoft.com...
>>I assume you did not read the article he is referring to then, that quotes
>>"Vista" and funnily enough my "Vista" ultimate has experienced a lot of
>>the issues of the article when it comes to file copying/deleting etc...
>>
>> maybe i need to go a get help from the "Windows 2008 Server also then
>> ???"
>>
>
> yes I am aware of the article about the Long Goodbye ( a Vista issue) BUT
> the body of the original poster referred to the vanishing hard drive under
> Windows Server 2008.
>
> As an aside I wonder if those experiencing delays in file copy have
> disabled both the IPv6 and Windows Differential Compression features as
> doing so increases file copy speed.
>
> --
>
> Mike Brannigan
>
> "DX" <mine@> wrote in message
> news:B478F107-3728-4080-B47D-91BAFF486DE2@microsoft.com...
>>I assume you did not read the article he is referring to then, that quotes
>>"Vista" and funnily enough my "Vista" ultimate has experienced a lot of
>>the issues of the article when it comes to file copying/deleting etc...
>>
>> maybe i need to go a get help from the "Windows 2008 Server also then
>> ???"
>>
>> "Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan@localhost> wrote in message
>> news:ECB4F5A3-12E7-4AA1-91F6-59DF0FC20C0E@microsoft.com...
>>> "DX" <mine@> wrote in message
>>> news:%23I3WZgInHHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> No mike he said quote "Vista/Windows Server 2008 (Server Longhorn)."
>>>> take note of the "Vista".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> The Vista reference is only to the short "Long Goodbye" mention
>>>
>>> He then said about the lengthy description of his problem the "Vanishing
>>> Hard Drive"
>>>
>>> Quote "...
>>> In our experience, the error has been a consistent problem with a SATA
>>> II
>>> to SATA II transfer using the on-board controller on an EVGA 680i SLI
>>> motherboard and the Windows Server 2008 operating system ..."
>>>
>>> Take note of the "Windows Server 2008"
>>> --
>>>
>>> Mike Brannigan
>>>
>>> "DX" <mine@> wrote in message
>>> news:%23I3WZgInHHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> No mike he said quote "Vista/Windows Server 2008 (Server Longhorn)."
>>>> take note of the "Vista".
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan@localhost> wrote in message
>>>> news:B827048E-3F2F-44ED-AAF7-80ECA1DEF13D@microsoft.com...
>>>>> Robert as your problems are related to the beta of Windows Server 2008
>>>>> you have posted to the wrong newsgroup.
>>>>> This is the general peer to peer support newsgroup for Windows Vista.
>>>>> Pleas repost to microsoft.public.windows.server.prerelease
>>>>> --
>>>>> Mike Brannigan
>>>>>
>>>>> "Robert Robinson" <robbiex@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:uypRpVInHHA.4120@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> There have been multiple reports of disk copy problems with
>>>>>> Vista/Windows Server 2008 (Server Longhorn).
>>>>>> The "Long Goodbye" is The Register's moniker for inexplicably slow
>>>>>> file copying including system hangs.
>>>>>> See:
>>>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05...bye_continues/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The "Vanishing Hard Drive" is a bizarre problem in which copying
>>>>>> large amounts of data from one SATA II hard drive to another results
>>>>>> in a system hang and the complete disappearance of any reference to
>>>>>> the SATA drive from which information is being copied. We have
>>>>>> repeatedly encountered this problem with copying of 5+GB of data from
>>>>>> one SATA II drive to another or by using Microsoft's "Backup"
>>>>>> application program.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In our experience, the error has been a consistent problem with a
>>>>>> SATA II to SATA II transfer using the on-board controller on an EVGA
>>>>>> 680i SLI motherboard and the Windows Server 2008 operating system.
>>>>>> The problem also occurs with copying of data from an "on-board"
>>>>>> controlled SATA drive to one that is attached to a SIIG PCIe
>>>>>> controller. It does not happen with a copy from a SATA II drive on
>>>>>> the on-board controller to one that is attached by a USB 2.0
>>>>>> connection. This is an interesting finding because one important
>>>>>> difference is that there is a slower data transfer rate suggesting
>>>>>> that a source of the problem may be timing errors. Changing SATA II
>>>>>> drives hasn't corrected the problem nor has installing the latest
>>>>>> BIOS and driver updates. Interestingly, there have been no copy
>>>>>> failures using while running SATA II drives with the same operating
>>>>>> system on a Dell PowerEdge 1800.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The problem appears to be due to some combination of hardware and
>>>>>> driver problems that occur with prolonged, high speed SATA II
>>>>>> transfers. The operating system appears to inappropriately respond to
>>>>>> the condition by completely disconnecting the drive and coming to a
>>>>>> dead stop. The drive can only be re-attached after a cold start.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

"DX" <mine@> wrote in message
news:93BA36F6-4194-44CC-AB38-0F0DC26D0257@microsoft.com...
> Mike,
>
> Thanks for the tip will try that, the thing is why should a user have to
> disable 2 features to have there computer perform the basics, surely this
> should of been top of the list of things to work before release!!!!
>

Actually both bits work really well and increase the speed of file transfer
over what you see today IF you are working in an IPv6 environment against
Windows Server 2008 or a 2003 R2 system where you are communicating with the
remote differential compression on both sides of the transfer.

One can only speculate why this is the default setting prior to wide
availability or adoption of both.
Maybe it will just look great when all of a sudden your system goes into
light speed the day your network switches to IPv6 and you rae transferring
files to a Windows Server 2008 file server

--

Mike Brannigan
"DX" <mine@> wrote in message
news:93BA36F6-4194-44CC-AB38-0F0DC26D0257@microsoft.com...
> Mike,
>
> Thanks for the tip will try that, the thing is why should a user have to
> disable 2 features to have there computer perform the basics, surely this
> should of been top of the list of things to work before release!!!!
>
>
> "Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan@localhost> wrote in message
> news:6A475C5A-83AC-422C-8D3D-BD7B987F6F9B@microsoft.com...
>>
>> "DX" <mine@> wrote in message
>> news:B478F107-3728-4080-B47D-91BAFF486DE2@microsoft.com...
>>>I assume you did not read the article he is referring to then, that
>>>quotes "Vista" and funnily enough my "Vista" ultimate has experienced a
>>>lot of the issues of the article when it comes to file copying/deleting
>>>etc...
>>>
>>> maybe i need to go a get help from the "Windows 2008 Server also then
>>> ???"
>>>
>>
>> yes I am aware of the article about the Long Goodbye ( a Vista issue) BUT
>> the body of the original poster referred to the vanishing hard drive
>> under Windows Server 2008.
>>
>> As an aside I wonder if those experiencing delays in file copy have
>> disabled both the IPv6 and Windows Differential Compression features as
>> doing so increases file copy speed.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Mike Brannigan
>>
>> "DX" <mine@> wrote in message
>> news:B478F107-3728-4080-B47D-91BAFF486DE2@microsoft.com...
>>>I assume you did not read the article he is referring to then, that
>>>quotes "Vista" and funnily enough my "Vista" ultimate has experienced a
>>>lot of the issues of the article when it comes to file copying/deleting
>>>etc...
>>>
>>> maybe i need to go a get help from the "Windows 2008 Server also then
>>> ???"
>>>
>>> "Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan@localhost> wrote in message
>>> news:ECB4F5A3-12E7-4AA1-91F6-59DF0FC20C0E@microsoft.com...
>>>> "DX" <mine@> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23I3WZgInHHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> No mike he said quote "Vista/Windows Server 2008 (Server Longhorn)."
>>>>> take note of the "Vista".
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Vista reference is only to the short "Long Goodbye" mention
>>>>
>>>> He then said about the lengthy description of his problem the
>>>> "Vanishing Hard Drive"
>>>>
>>>> Quote "...
>>>> In our experience, the error has been a consistent problem with a SATA
>>>> II
>>>> to SATA II transfer using the on-board controller on an EVGA 680i SLI
>>>> motherboard and the Windows Server 2008 operating system ..."
>>>>
>>>> Take note of the "Windows Server 2008"
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Mike Brannigan
>>>>
>>>> "DX" <mine@> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23I3WZgInHHA.1240@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> No mike he said quote "Vista/Windows Server 2008 (Server Longhorn)."
>>>>> take note of the "Vista".
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan@localhost> wrote in message
>>>>> news:B827048E-3F2F-44ED-AAF7-80ECA1DEF13D@microsoft.com...
>>>>>> Robert as your problems are related to the beta of Windows Server
>>>>>> 2008 you have posted to the wrong newsgroup.
>>>>>> This is the general peer to peer support newsgroup for Windows Vista.
>>>>>> Pleas repost to microsoft.public.windows.server.prerelease
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Mike Brannigan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Robert Robinson" <robbiex@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:uypRpVInHHA.4120@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> There have been multiple reports of disk copy problems with
>>>>>>> Vista/Windows Server 2008 (Server Longhorn).
>>>>>>> The "Long Goodbye" is The Register's moniker for inexplicably slow
>>>>>>> file copying including system hangs.
>>>>>>> See:
>>>>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05...bye_continues/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The "Vanishing Hard Drive" is a bizarre problem in which copying
>>>>>>> large amounts of data from one SATA II hard drive to another results
>>>>>>> in a system hang and the complete disappearance of any reference to
>>>>>>> the SATA drive from which information is being copied. We have
>>>>>>> repeatedly encountered this problem with copying of 5+GB of data
>>>>>>> from one SATA II drive to another or by using Microsoft's "Backup"
>>>>>>> application program.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In our experience, the error has been a consistent problem with a
>>>>>>> SATA II to SATA II transfer using the on-board controller on an EVGA
>>>>>>> 680i SLI motherboard and the Windows Server 2008 operating system.
>>>>>>> The problem also occurs with copying of data from an "on-board"
>>>>>>> controlled SATA drive to one that is attached to a SIIG PCIe
>>>>>>> controller. It does not happen with a copy from a SATA II drive on
>>>>>>> the on-board controller to one that is attached by a USB 2.0
>>>>>>> connection. This is an interesting finding because one important
>>>>>>> difference is that there is a slower data transfer rate suggesting
>>>>>>> that a source of the problem may be timing errors. Changing SATA II
>>>>>>> drives hasn't corrected the problem nor has installing the latest
>>>>>>> BIOS and driver updates. Interestingly, there have been no copy
>>>>>>> failures using while running SATA II drives with the same operating
>>>>>>> system on a Dell PowerEdge 1800.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The problem appears to be due to some combination of hardware and
>>>>>>> driver problems that occur with prolonged, high speed SATA II
>>>>>>> transfers. The operating system appears to inappropriately respond
>>>>>>> to the condition by completely disconnecting the drive and coming to
>>>>>>> a dead stop. The drive can only be re-attached after a cold start.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

No Problem's Here (I Am Currently Running A MSDN Subscriber Download's Copy
Of Windows Server 2008 Beta 3 Web Server Edition), Just FYI.

Kevin John Panzke (MSDN Operating Systems Level Subscriber)

P.S. Now If Microsoft Would Fix The MSDN Product Key Activation System So
That MSDN Subscriber Download's Copies Of Windows Server 2008 Web Server
Edition Would Activate On More Than Just One Computer, I Would Be Very Happy
(I Had To Use Tele-Phone Activation Support In Order to Get It Activated On
A Second Computer, Which Was A Real Pain In The A** Type Process To Go
Through, Level One Tele-Phone Support Is Completely Hopeless), Just FYI.

"Mike Brannigan" <Mike.Brannigan@localhost> wrote in message
news:B827048E-3F2F-44ED-AAF7-80ECA1DEF13D@microsoft.com...
> Robert as your problems are related to the beta of Windows Server 2008 you
> have posted to the wrong newsgroup.
> This is the general peer to peer support newsgroup for Windows Vista.
> Pleas repost to microsoft.public.windows.server.prerelease
> --
> Mike Brannigan
>
> "Robert Robinson" <robbiex@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:uypRpVInHHA.4120@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> There have been multiple reports of disk copy problems with Vista/Windows
>> Server 2008 (Server Longhorn).
>> The "Long Goodbye" is The Register's moniker for inexplicably slow file
>> copying including system hangs.
>> See:
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05...bye_continues/
>>
>> The "Vanishing Hard Drive" is a bizarre problem in which copying large
>> amounts of data from one SATA II hard drive to another results in a
>> system hang and the complete disappearance of any reference to the SATA
>> drive from which information is being copied. We have repeatedly
>> encountered this problem with copying of 5+GB of data from one SATA II
>> drive to another or by using Microsoft's "Backup" application program.
>>
>> In our experience, the error has been a consistent problem with a SATA II
>> to SATA II transfer using the on-board controller on an EVGA 680i SLI
>> motherboard and the Windows Server 2008 operating system. The problem
>> also occurs with copying of data from an "on-board" controlled SATA drive
>> to one that is attached to a SIIG PCIe controller. It does not happen
>> with a copy from a SATA II drive on the on-board controller to one that
>> is attached by a USB 2.0 connection. This is an interesting finding
>> because one important difference is that there is a slower data transfer
>> rate suggesting that a source of the problem may be timing errors.
>> Changing SATA II drives hasn't corrected the problem nor has installing
>> the latest BIOS and driver updates. Interestingly, there have been no
>> copy failures using while running SATA II drives with the same operating
>> system on a Dell PowerEdge 1800.
>>
>> The problem appears to be due to some combination of hardware and driver
>> problems that occur with prolonged, high speed SATA II transfers. The
>> operating system appears to inappropriately respond to the condition by
>> completely disconnecting the drive and coming to a dead stop. The drive
>> can only be re-attached after a cold start.
>