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Old 04-13-2007, 10:16 PM
bill
 
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My problem is a legal one : Am I allowed to install multiple copies of
Windows Vista on the SAME computer?for instance could i have one copy for the
childrens games and one for my wife.The intention of the copyright law seems
quite clear ie to prevent people copying windows onto ANOTHER
computer.However Wherever this comes up in discussion the adjudicator says
ONE copy,ONE computer.this cannot mean exactly what it says since there could
be no possible objection to having two separate copies on one computer.
Could we have some clarification on this and also whether one has different
rights under the OEM and the full version of Vista
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Old 04-13-2007, 10:29 PM
jacky
 
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Default Re: Legal Question

yes you can do that as long as its on the same computer and stays there! but
why? just use several logins
"bill" <bill@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F0E511F5-21F2-45B2-9B03-E0FD1BCA8C36@microsoft.com...
> My problem is a legal one : Am I allowed to install multiple copies of
> Windows Vista on the SAME computer?for instance could i have one copy for
> the
> childrens games and one for my wife.The intention of the copyright law
> seems
> quite clear ie to prevent people copying windows onto ANOTHER
> computer.However Wherever this comes up in discussion the adjudicator says
> ONE copy,ONE computer.this cannot mean exactly what it says since there
> could
> be no possible objection to having two separate copies on one computer.
> Could we have some clarification on this and also whether one has
> different
> rights under the OEM and the full version of Vista
> --
> bill


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Old 04-13-2007, 10:31 PM
Dale M. White
 
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Default Re: Legal Question

I think outside of the legal question will be how you plan to install it. If
you install and activate the Kid's Vista on 1 hard drive, and install the
Wife's on a different hard drive, you'll get hit with a re-activation issue.
As people here who have upgraded their system disk learned.

Not if you had say a 300 GB drive and sliced it into 3 100GB partitions,
then you should avoid that issue. Since all the hardware would report the
same, for the same serial key,

If you want 3 installs on 3 Hard drives, then you can probably skip the
legal questions has I don't believe you'll be able to have the other 2
install activated.

"bill" <bill@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F0E511F5-21F2-45B2-9B03-E0FD1BCA8C36@microsoft.com...
> My problem is a legal one : Am I allowed to install multiple copies of
> Windows Vista on the SAME computer?for instance could i have one copy for
> the
> childrens games and one for my wife.The intention of the copyright law
> seems
> quite clear ie to prevent people copying windows onto ANOTHER
> computer.However Wherever this comes up in discussion the adjudicator says
> ONE copy,ONE computer.this cannot mean exactly what it says since there
> could
> be no possible objection to having two separate copies on one computer.
> Could we have some clarification on this and also whether one has
> different
> rights under the OEM and the full version of Vista
> --
> bill


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Old 04-13-2007, 11:30 PM
bill
 
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Default Re: Legal Question

Does this reactivation issue apply to all versions ?
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bill


"Dale M. White" wrote:

> I think outside of the legal question will be how you plan to install it. If
> you install and activate the Kid's Vista on 1 hard drive, and install the
> Wife's on a different hard drive, you'll get hit with a re-activation issue.
> As people here who have upgraded their system disk learned.
>
> Not if you had say a 300 GB drive and sliced it into 3 100GB partitions,
> then you should avoid that issue. Since all the hardware would report the
> same, for the same serial key,
>
> If you want 3 installs on 3 Hard drives, then you can probably skip the
> legal questions has I don't believe you'll be able to have the other 2
> install activated.
>
> "bill" <bill@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F0E511F5-21F2-45B2-9B03-E0FD1BCA8C36@microsoft.com...
> > My problem is a legal one : Am I allowed to install multiple copies of
> > Windows Vista on the SAME computer?for instance could i have one copy for
> > the
> > childrens games and one for my wife.The intention of the copyright law
> > seems
> > quite clear ie to prevent people copying windows onto ANOTHER
> > computer.However Wherever this comes up in discussion the adjudicator says
> > ONE copy,ONE computer.this cannot mean exactly what it says since there
> > could
> > be no possible objection to having two separate copies on one computer.
> > Could we have some clarification on this and also whether one has
> > different
> > rights under the OEM and the full version of Vista
> > --
> > bill

>
>

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Old 04-13-2007, 11:49 PM
Charles W Davis
 
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Default Re: Legal Question

What you are proposing would be more cumbersome than having a second log in
with passwrds. What a nightmare maintaining updates, multiples anti-virus
programs, multiple copies of all programs that the users want to install,
and the list goes on and on...

The users with a guest account and limitted rights would be much more
secure. The kids couldnt' scuttle your system so easy...

"bill" <bill@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F0E511F5-21F2-45B2-9B03-E0FD1BCA8C36@microsoft.com...
> My problem is a legal one : Am I allowed to install multiple copies of
> Windows Vista on the SAME computer?for instance could i have one copy for
> the
> childrens games and one for my wife.The intention of the copyright law
> seems
> quite clear ie to prevent people copying windows onto ANOTHER
> computer.However Wherever this comes up in discussion the adjudicator says
> ONE copy,ONE computer.this cannot mean exactly what it says since there
> could
> be no possible objection to having two separate copies on one computer.
> Could we have some clarification on this and also whether one has
> different
> rights under the OEM and the full version of Vista
> --
> bill


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Old 04-14-2007, 12:32 AM
bill
 
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Default Re: Legal Question

Thanks for your replies but it seems to me that multiple log-ins does not get
round the problem of viruses,spyware etc infecting the system whereas two
distinct hard drives does. On one you have internet access ,games , e-mail
etc and on the other you have a simplified version without internet access on
which you would keep your correspondance etc.Perhaps someone can suggest a
better solution but I dont think it is multiple log-ins. Also can someone
tell me what happens if your hard drive fails and I have to install a new
one. From what has been said so far it appears that I will run into
reactivation problemswhen I try to reinstall Windows
--
bill


"Charles W Davis" wrote:

> What you are proposing would be more cumbersome than having a second log in
> with passwrds. What a nightmare maintaining updates, multiples anti-virus
> programs, multiple copies of all programs that the users want to install,
> and the list goes on and on...
>
> The users with a guest account and limitted rights would be much more
> secure. The kids couldnt' scuttle your system so easy...
>
> "bill" <bill@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:F0E511F5-21F2-45B2-9B03-E0FD1BCA8C36@microsoft.com...
> > My problem is a legal one : Am I allowed to install multiple copies of
> > Windows Vista on the SAME computer?for instance could i have one copy for
> > the
> > childrens games and one for my wife.The intention of the copyright law
> > seems
> > quite clear ie to prevent people copying windows onto ANOTHER
> > computer.However Wherever this comes up in discussion the adjudicator says
> > ONE copy,ONE computer.this cannot mean exactly what it says since there
> > could
> > be no possible objection to having two separate copies on one computer.
> > Could we have some clarification on this and also whether one has
> > different
> > rights under the OEM and the full version of Vista
> > --
> > bill

>

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Old 04-14-2007, 01:13 AM
Alias
 
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Default Re: Legal Question

bill wrote:
> Thanks for your replies but it seems to me that multiple log-ins does not get
> round the problem of viruses,spyware etc infecting the system whereas two
> distinct hard drives does. On one you have internet access ,games , e-mail
> etc and on the other you have a simplified version without internet access on
> which you would keep your correspondance etc.Perhaps someone can suggest a
> better solution but I dont think it is multiple log-ins. Also can someone
> tell me what happens if your hard drive fails and I have to install a new
> one. From what has been said so far it appears that I will run into
> reactivation problemswhen I try to reinstall Windows



Have you considered Ubuntu Linux? No activation, one OS per computer or
virus/malware problems with that. Check it out at www.ubuntu.com/ It's free.

Alias
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Old 04-14-2007, 02:26 AM
Rick Rogers
 
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Default Re: Legal Question

Hi,

To be in accordance with the license agreement, under section 2 regarding
installation it reads "You may install one copy of the software on the
licensed device". This very clearly means that you may only install one
instance of your copy. To my knowledge, it does not matter whether the
license is retail or OEM. Only a volume license allows for multiple
installations, regardless of whether it is multiple machines or multiple
installs on the same machine.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"bill" <bill@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F0E511F5-21F2-45B2-9B03-E0FD1BCA8C36@microsoft.com...
> My problem is a legal one : Am I allowed to install multiple copies of
> Windows Vista on the SAME computer?for instance could i have one copy for
> the
> childrens games and one for my wife.The intention of the copyright law
> seems
> quite clear ie to prevent people copying windows onto ANOTHER
> computer.However Wherever this comes up in discussion the adjudicator says
> ONE copy,ONE computer.this cannot mean exactly what it says since there
> could
> be no possible objection to having two separate copies on one computer.
> Could we have some clarification on this and also whether one has
> different
> rights under the OEM and the full version of Vista
> --
> bill


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Old 04-14-2007, 03:10 AM
Charles W Davis
 
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Default Re: Legal Question

It makes no difference whether you have multiple log-ins on the same hard
drive or multiple partitions on on the same hard drive. When you lose the
hard drive you lose. Each log-in may have its own e-mail, its own internet
access with a choice of browsers. Unless you set folders for sharing, your
data is just as secure from prying eyes as with your proposal. In fact, you
should set the childrens folders for sharing. It's being the good parent.
Reactivation is probably automatic if you only replace the hard drive. It
takes several changes before you must call Microsoft to reactivate.

Businesses use multiple log-ins as a matter of course. Shift workers, temp
employees, etc.

"bill" <bill@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:AB330CA4-4602-417D-B3FA-F57CEBAF1003@microsoft.com...
> Thanks for your replies but it seems to me that multiple log-ins does not
> get
> round the problem of viruses,spyware etc infecting the system whereas two
> distinct hard drives does. On one you have internet access ,games , e-mail
> etc and on the other you have a simplified version without internet access
> on
> which you would keep your correspondance etc.Perhaps someone can suggest a
> better solution but I dont think it is multiple log-ins. Also can someone
> tell me what happens if your hard drive fails and I have to install a new
> one. From what has been said so far it appears that I will run into
> reactivation problemswhen I try to reinstall Windows
> --
> bill
>
>
> "Charles W Davis" wrote:
>
>> What you are proposing would be more cumbersome than having a second log
>> in
>> with passwrds. What a nightmare maintaining updates, multiples anti-virus
>> programs, multiple copies of all programs that the users want to install,
>> and the list goes on and on...
>>
>> The users with a guest account and limitted rights would be much more
>> secure. The kids couldnt' scuttle your system so easy...
>>
>> "bill" <bill@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:F0E511F5-21F2-45B2-9B03-E0FD1BCA8C36@microsoft.com...
>> > My problem is a legal one : Am I allowed to install multiple copies of
>> > Windows Vista on the SAME computer?for instance could i have one copy
>> > for
>> > the
>> > childrens games and one for my wife.The intention of the copyright law
>> > seems
>> > quite clear ie to prevent people copying windows onto ANOTHER
>> > computer.However Wherever this comes up in discussion the adjudicator
>> > says
>> > ONE copy,ONE computer.this cannot mean exactly what it says since there
>> > could
>> > be no possible objection to having two separate copies on one computer.
>> > Could we have some clarification on this and also whether one has
>> > different
>> > rights under the OEM and the full version of Vista
>> > --
>> > bill

>>


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Old 04-14-2007, 05:06 AM
Gary VanderMolen
 
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Default Re: Legal Question

If you have a situation where malware has infected, say, drive C:,
there is nothing to prevent it from doing the equivalent of "Format D:".
How do separate drives make you more secure?

You will definitely have Vista activation problems with multiple drives.

Gary VanderMolen

"bill" <bill@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:AB330CA4-4602-417D-B3FA-F57CEBAF1003@microsoft.com...
> Thanks for your replies but it seems to me that multiple log-ins does not get
> round the problem of viruses,spyware etc infecting the system whereas two
> distinct hard drives does. On one you have internet access ,games , e-mail
> etc and on the other you have a simplified version without internet access on
> which you would keep your correspondance etc.Perhaps someone can suggest a
> better solution but I dont think it is multiple log-ins. Also can someone
> tell me what happens if your hard drive fails and I have to install a new
> one. From what has been said so far it appears that I will run into
> reactivation problemswhen I try to reinstall Windows
> --
> bill
>
>
> "Charles W Davis" wrote:
>
>> What you are proposing would be more cumbersome than having a second log in
>> with passwrds. What a nightmare maintaining updates, multiples anti-virus
>> programs, multiple copies of all programs that the users want to install,
>> and the list goes on and on...
>>
>> The users with a guest account and limitted rights would be much more
>> secure. The kids couldnt' scuttle your system so easy...
>>
>> "bill" <bill@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:F0E511F5-21F2-45B2-9B03-E0FD1BCA8C36@microsoft.com...
>> > My problem is a legal one : Am I allowed to install multiple copies of
>> > Windows Vista on the SAME computer?for instance could i have one copy for
>> > the
>> > childrens games and one for my wife.The intention of the copyright law
>> > seems
>> > quite clear ie to prevent people copying windows onto ANOTHER
>> > computer.However Wherever this comes up in discussion the adjudicator says
>> > ONE copy,ONE computer.this cannot mean exactly what it says since there
>> > could
>> > be no possible objection to having two separate copies on one computer.
>> > Could we have some clarification on this and also whether one has
>> > different
>> > rights under the OEM and the full version of Vista
>> > --
>> > bill

>>



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