Freezing Over Start Menu.... Again

I uninstalled one of the 3rd party software and after a reboot the system
started hanging on another start menu item that it wasn't hanging on before.

Out of curiosity I uninstalled Microsoft Security Essentials and the problem
magically went away.
I reinstalled MSE and the problem returned.
Uninstalled MSE and installed AVGFree and the problems has gone away.
It's like night and day.
I'm considering checking out the MSE forum and see if anyone else is having
the same problem
I just hope I haven't spoken too soon.

Thanks,
James

"Dave-UK" <Here@home> wrote in message
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>
> "JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunne0r.com> wrote in message
> news:uz5o4uMXKHA.1236@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> I ran 'sdc /scannow' didn't indicate a problem.
>> In safe mode the problem doesn't exist.
>> The sofware wasn't giving me a problem before.
>> Why would the software all of a sudden cause problems?
>> They are both purchased software and I'll consider removing them.
>> And why is the start menu acting up now when I try to open it.
>> The problems seems to be getting worse.
>>
>
> I don't know why the software is giving you problems now, but it could
> be a Microsoft update that has broken something or a recent third-party
> software update.
> You could remove the software to get back to a stable system and then
> re-install one at a time to narrow it down to one program. Then look for
> updates/help from that software company.
>
>
>

Not sure if that was had anyhting to do with the start menu problem but I do
have access 2007
but nothing of access starts at startup.

James

"Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message
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> JamesJ wrote:
>> I ran 'sdc /scannow' didn't indicate a problem.
>> In safe mode the problem doesn't exist.
>> The sofware wasn't giving me a problem before.
>> Why would the software all of a sudden cause problems?
>> They are both purchased software and I'll consider removing them.
>> And why is the start menu acting up now when I try to open it.
>> The problems seems to be getting worse.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> James
>> "Dave-UK" <Here@home> wrote in message
>> news:edyVZrMXKHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> "JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunne0r.com> wrote in message
>>> news:eqD2$MLXKHA.3504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> As far as the memory diagnostic report.. there is none. I navigated to
>>>> the proper branch and no events.
>>>>
>>>> Now another anomoly:
>>>> Right after bootup when I click the start menu orb only the top 3 items
>>>> display an icon and the system hangs.
>>>> The other 5 show no icon for about 20 seconds then they appear.
>>>> After some reboots the start menu opens but is tranparent, can see the
>>>> desktop underneath... no items or
>>>> anything for about 20 seconds then they appear.
>>>>
>>>> There is no event being reported at the time the system hangs waiting
>>>> for the item information for the start menu items.
>>>> These items are third party software (Active Disk Image and Desktop
>>>> Maestro) that I've had for some time and I had issues like this before
>>>> I added memory.
>>>>
>>>> I did paste 2 'Error' events that occured during a bootup about an hour
>>>> ago:
>>>>
>>>> Event filter with query "SELECT * FROM __InstanceModificationEvent
>>>> WITHIN 60 WHERE TargetInstance ISA "Win32
>>>> _Processor" AND TargetInstance.LoadPercentage > 99" could not be
>>>> reactivated in namespace "//./root/CIMV2" because of
>>>> error 0x80041003. Events cannot be delivered through this filter until
>>>> the problem is corrected.
>>>>
>>>> Code Integrity is unable to verify the image integrity of the file
>>>> \Device\HarddiskVolume1\Program Files\Microsoft Security
>>>> Essentials\Drivers\mpfilter\mpfilter.sys because the set of per-page
>>>> image hashes could not be found on the system.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I haven't got a clue about those messages. I would boot into safe mode
>>> for a while and see how the Start menu behaves etc.
>>> If it seems ok, then get rid of the software giving you problems.
>>> If the Start menu still has problems in safe mode then I would suspect
>>> Vista is
>>> corrupted somehow.
>>> Maybe try a 'sfc /scannow' file check, a system restore or even consider
>>> a clean install.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
> Those messages look like something from SQL, MySQL or some similar
> database program perhaps related to "Code Integrity" and it seems like
> it's trying to find something it cannot. Does any of your software use and
> SQL like program, perhaps online backup or something?
>
> If you could prevent that from starting with Windows you might be able
> isolate the problem.

Didn't exist in regular safe mode.
I believe I found the problem.
It was my anit-virus software - MSE

James

<.> wrote in message news:evvl1UNXKHA.504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Does the problem exist in safe mode with networking
>
> --
> .
> --
> "JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunne0r.com> wrote in message
> news:uz5o4uMXKHA.1236@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>I ran 'sdc /scannow' didn't indicate a problem.
>> In safe mode the problem doesn't exist.
>> The sofware wasn't giving me a problem before.
>> Why would the software all of a sudden cause problems?
>> They are both purchased software and I'll consider removing them.
>> And why is the start menu acting up now when I try to open it.
>> The problems seems to be getting worse.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> James
>> "Dave-UK" <Here@home> wrote in message
>> news:edyVZrMXKHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> "JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunne0r.com> wrote in message
>>> news:eqD2$MLXKHA.3504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> As far as the memory diagnostic report.. there is none. I navigated to
>>>> the proper branch and no events.
>>>>
>>>> Now another anomoly:
>>>> Right after bootup when I click the start menu orb only the top 3 items
>>>> display an icon and the system hangs.
>>>> The other 5 show no icon for about 20 seconds then they appear.
>>>> After some reboots the start menu opens but is tranparent, can see the
>>>> desktop underneath... no items or
>>>> anything for about 20 seconds then they appear.
>>>>
>>>> There is no event being reported at the time the system hangs waiting
>>>> for the item information for the start menu items.
>>>> These items are third party software (Active Disk Image and Desktop
>>>> Maestro) that I've had for some time and I had issues like this before
>>>> I added memory.
>>>>
>>>> I did paste 2 'Error' events that occured during a bootup about an hour
>>>> ago:
>>>>
>>>> Event filter with query "SELECT * FROM __InstanceModificationEvent
>>>> WITHIN 60 WHERE TargetInstance ISA "Win32
>>>> _Processor" AND TargetInstance.LoadPercentage > 99" could not be
>>>> reactivated in namespace "//./root/CIMV2" because of
>>>> error 0x80041003. Events cannot be delivered through this filter until
>>>> the problem is corrected.
>>>>
>>>> Code Integrity is unable to verify the image integrity of the file
>>>> \Device\HarddiskVolume1\Program Files\Microsoft Security
>>>> Essentials\Drivers\mpfilter\mpfilter.sys because the set of per-page
>>>> image hashes could not be found on the system.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I haven't got a clue about those messages. I would boot into safe mode
>>> for a while and see how the Start menu behaves etc.
>>> If it seems ok, then get rid of the software giving you problems.
>>> If the Start menu still has problems in safe mode then I would suspect
>>> Vista is
>>> corrupted somehow.
>>> Maybe try a 'sfc /scannow' file check, a system restore or even consider
>>> a clean install.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>

Well the "SELECT" keyword is a database thing and some backup software
can use it. I am a little unsure about how some of the stuff you have
works so have no real answer but I thing you can find MSCONFIG to see
what is running and temporarily do a lot with it without harming your
system.

JamesJ wrote:
> Not sure if that was had anyhting to do with the start menu problem but
> I do have access 2007
> but nothing of access starts at startup.
>
> James
>
> "Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message
> news:esFsneNXKHA.3720@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> JamesJ wrote:
>>> I ran 'sdc /scannow' didn't indicate a problem.
>>> In safe mode the problem doesn't exist.
>>> The sofware wasn't giving me a problem before.
>>> Why would the software all of a sudden cause problems?
>>> They are both purchased software and I'll consider removing them.
>>> And why is the start menu acting up now when I try to open it.
>>> The problems seems to be getting worse.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> James
>>> "Dave-UK" <Here@home> wrote in message
>>> news:edyVZrMXKHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>> "JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunne0r.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:eqD2$MLXKHA.3504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> As far as the memory diagnostic report.. there is none. I navigated
>>>>> to the proper branch and no events.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now another anomoly:
>>>>> Right after bootup when I click the start menu orb only the top 3
>>>>> items display an icon and the system hangs.
>>>>> The other 5 show no icon for about 20 seconds then they appear.
>>>>> After some reboots the start menu opens but is tranparent, can see
>>>>> the desktop underneath... no items or
>>>>> anything for about 20 seconds then they appear.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is no event being reported at the time the system hangs
>>>>> waiting for the item information for the start menu items.
>>>>> These items are third party software (Active Disk Image and Desktop
>>>>> Maestro) that I've had for some time and I had issues like this
>>>>> before I added memory.
>>>>>
>>>>> I did paste 2 'Error' events that occured during a bootup about an
>>>>> hour ago:
>>>>>
>>>>> Event filter with query "SELECT * FROM __InstanceModificationEvent
>>>>> WITHIN 60 WHERE TargetInstance ISA "Win32
>>>>> _Processor" AND TargetInstance.LoadPercentage > 99" could not be
>>>>> reactivated in namespace "//./root/CIMV2" because of
>>>>> error 0x80041003. Events cannot be delivered through this filter
>>>>> until the problem is corrected.
>>>>>
>>>>> Code Integrity is unable to verify the image integrity of the file
>>>>> \Device\HarddiskVolume1\Program Files\Microsoft Security
>>>>> Essentials\Drivers\mpfilter\mpfilter.sys because the set of
>>>>> per-page image hashes could not be found on the system.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I haven't got a clue about those messages. I would boot into safe
>>>> mode for a while and see how the Start menu behaves etc.
>>>> If it seems ok, then get rid of the software giving you problems.
>>>> If the Start menu still has problems in safe mode then I would
>>>> suspect Vista is
>>>> corrupted somehow.
>>>> Maybe try a 'sfc /scannow' file check, a system restore or even
>>>> consider a clean install.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>> Those messages look like something from SQL, MySQL or some similar
>> database program perhaps related to "Code Integrity" and it seems like
>> it's trying to find something it cannot. Does any of your software use
>> and SQL like program, perhaps online backup or something?
>>
>> If you could prevent that from starting with Windows you might be able
>> isolate the problem.
>

I've discovered it was Microsoft Security Essentials causing the hanging.
I uninstalled it and it went away. Reinstall and it returned.
I uninstalled MSE and I installed AVGFree and the problem has totally
disappeared.

James

"Charlie" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message
news:unIWEvOXKHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Well the "SELECT" keyword is a database thing and some backup software can
> use it. I am a little unsure about how some of the stuff you have works so
> have no real answer but I thing you can find MSCONFIG to see what is
> running and temporarily do a lot with it without harming your system.
>
> JamesJ wrote:
>> Not sure if that was had anyhting to do with the start menu problem but I
>> do have access 2007
>> but nothing of access starts at startup.
>>
>> James
>>
>> "Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message
>> news:esFsneNXKHA.3720@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> JamesJ wrote:
>>>> I ran 'sdc /scannow' didn't indicate a problem.
>>>> In safe mode the problem doesn't exist.
>>>> The sofware wasn't giving me a problem before.
>>>> Why would the software all of a sudden cause problems?
>>>> They are both purchased software and I'll consider removing them.
>>>> And why is the start menu acting up now when I try to open it.
>>>> The problems seems to be getting worse.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> James
>>>> "Dave-UK" <Here@home> wrote in message
>>>> news:edyVZrMXKHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>
>>>>> "JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunne0r.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:eqD2$MLXKHA.3504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> As far as the memory diagnostic report.. there is none. I navigated
>>>>>> to the proper branch and no events.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now another anomoly:
>>>>>> Right after bootup when I click the start menu orb only the top 3
>>>>>> items display an icon and the system hangs.
>>>>>> The other 5 show no icon for about 20 seconds then they appear.
>>>>>> After some reboots the start menu opens but is tranparent, can see
>>>>>> the desktop underneath... no items or
>>>>>> anything for about 20 seconds then they appear.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is no event being reported at the time the system hangs waiting
>>>>>> for the item information for the start menu items.
>>>>>> These items are third party software (Active Disk Image and Desktop
>>>>>> Maestro) that I've had for some time and I had issues like this
>>>>>> before I added memory.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did paste 2 'Error' events that occured during a bootup about an
>>>>>> hour ago:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Event filter with query "SELECT * FROM __InstanceModificationEvent
>>>>>> WITHIN 60 WHERE TargetInstance ISA "Win32
>>>>>> _Processor" AND TargetInstance.LoadPercentage > 99" could not be
>>>>>> reactivated in namespace "//./root/CIMV2" because of
>>>>>> error 0x80041003. Events cannot be delivered through this filter
>>>>>> until the problem is corrected.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Code Integrity is unable to verify the image integrity of the file
>>>>>> \Device\HarddiskVolume1\Program Files\Microsoft Security
>>>>>> Essentials\Drivers\mpfilter\mpfilter.sys because the set of per-page
>>>>>> image hashes could not be found on the system.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I haven't got a clue about those messages. I would boot into safe mode
>>>>> for a while and see how the Start menu behaves etc.
>>>>> If it seems ok, then get rid of the software giving you problems.
>>>>> If the Start menu still has problems in safe mode then I would suspect
>>>>> Vista is
>>>>> corrupted somehow.
>>>>> Maybe try a 'sfc /scannow' file check, a system restore or even
>>>>> consider a clean install.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Those messages look like something from SQL, MySQL or some similar
>>> database program perhaps related to "Code Integrity" and it seems like
>>> it's trying to find something it cannot. Does any of your software use
>>> and SQL like program, perhaps online backup or something?
>>>
>>> If you could prevent that from starting with Windows you might be able
>>> isolate the problem.
>>

James, thanks for reporting back to the group, it often helps others. I
suspect that MSE keeps a database of what's where and things like file
versions and sizes, perhaps in order to replace things that get damaged
by malware or crashes, so it maybe has MSSQL Lite or something running.

Glad you found the problem anyway.

JamesJ wrote:
> I've discovered it was Microsoft Security Essentials causing the hanging.
> I uninstalled it and it went away. Reinstall and it returned.
> I uninstalled MSE and I installed AVGFree and the problem has totally
> disappeared.
>
> James
>
> "Charlie" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message
> news:unIWEvOXKHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Well the "SELECT" keyword is a database thing and some backup software
>> can use it. I am a little unsure about how some of the stuff you have
>> works so have no real answer but I thing you can find MSCONFIG to see
>> what is running and temporarily do a lot with it without harming your
>> system.
>>
>> JamesJ wrote:
>>> Not sure if that was had anyhting to do with the start menu problem
>>> but I do have access 2007
>>> but nothing of access starts at startup.
>>>
>>> James
>>>
>>> "Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message
>>> news:esFsneNXKHA.3720@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> JamesJ wrote:
>>>>> I ran 'sdc /scannow' didn't indicate a problem.
>>>>> In safe mode the problem doesn't exist.
>>>>> The sofware wasn't giving me a problem before.
>>>>> Why would the software all of a sudden cause problems?
>>>>> They are both purchased software and I'll consider removing them.
>>>>> And why is the start menu acting up now when I try to open it.
>>>>> The problems seems to be getting worse.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> James
>>>>> "Dave-UK" <Here@home> wrote in message
>>>>> news:edyVZrMXKHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "JamesJ" <jjy@darwin_roadrunne0r.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:eqD2$MLXKHA.3504@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> As far as the memory diagnostic report.. there is none. I
>>>>>>> navigated to the proper branch and no events.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now another anomoly:
>>>>>>> Right after bootup when I click the start menu orb only the top 3
>>>>>>> items display an icon and the system hangs.
>>>>>>> The other 5 show no icon for about 20 seconds then they appear.
>>>>>>> After some reboots the start menu opens but is tranparent, can
>>>>>>> see the desktop underneath... no items or
>>>>>>> anything for about 20 seconds then they appear.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is no event being reported at the time the system hangs
>>>>>>> waiting for the item information for the start menu items.
>>>>>>> These items are third party software (Active Disk Image and
>>>>>>> Desktop Maestro) that I've had for some time and I had issues
>>>>>>> like this before I added memory.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I did paste 2 'Error' events that occured during a bootup about
>>>>>>> an hour ago:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Event filter with query "SELECT * FROM
>>>>>>> __InstanceModificationEvent WITHIN 60 WHERE TargetInstance ISA
>>>>>>> "Win32
>>>>>>> _Processor" AND TargetInstance.LoadPercentage > 99" could not be
>>>>>>> reactivated in namespace "//./root/CIMV2" because of
>>>>>>> error 0x80041003. Events cannot be delivered through this filter
>>>>>>> until the problem is corrected.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Code Integrity is unable to verify the image integrity of the
>>>>>>> file \Device\HarddiskVolume1\Program Files\Microsoft Security
>>>>>>> Essentials\Drivers\mpfilter\mpfilter.sys because the set of
>>>>>>> per-page image hashes could not be found on the system.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I haven't got a clue about those messages. I would boot into safe
>>>>>> mode for a while and see how the Start menu behaves etc.
>>>>>> If it seems ok, then get rid of the software giving you problems.
>>>>>> If the Start menu still has problems in safe mode then I would
>>>>>> suspect Vista is
>>>>>> corrupted somehow.
>>>>>> Maybe try a 'sfc /scannow' file check, a system restore or even
>>>>>> consider a clean install.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Those messages look like something from SQL, MySQL or some similar
>>>> database program perhaps related to "Code Integrity" and it seems
>>>> like it's trying to find something it cannot. Does any of your
>>>> software use and SQL like program, perhaps online backup or something?
>>>>
>>>> If you could prevent that from starting with Windows you might be
>>>> able isolate the problem.
>>>