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Old 02-22-2008, 12:41 AM
DanS
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thetruthhurts @homail.com wrote in
news:up7rr3d7brq76dmd9a0m3uq4o62f97ordf@4ax.com:

> On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:58:06 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
> <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:59:22 -0800, darth vader
>><darthvader@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>>> i recently installed vista on my pc, and to my annoyment, there are
>>> a few things i dont like about it,
>>> 1- everytime you install or uninstall anything, make changes to the
>>> desktop, files and folders etc etc etc, you get a pop up asking for
>>> permission, EVERYTIME, its getting annoying

>>
>>
>>Although I can understand why that annoys you, it's the price we pay
>>for the additional security of making sure that it's something *you*
>>want to do, and not initiated by malware.
>>
>>

> There has got to be a better way.


There could be, but it was too simple for MS. They could have just add prompts when the IExplore.exe
process tries to write to those parts of the registry or system folders that malware typically do. But again,
too easy.

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Old 02-22-2008, 06:49 AM
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DanS;621147 Wrote:
> There could be, but it was too simple for MS. They could have just add
> prompts when the IExplore.exe process tries to write to those parts of
> the registry or system folders that malware typically do. But again, too
> easy.


The portal for running and/or installation of malware is hardly limited
to Internet Explorer. If Microsoft liited UAC to only Internet Eplorer
then UAC would not have been as effective as it is.

Personally? I believe Microsoft could lock-down UAC a bit more, to
cover wider aspects of the system


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Old 02-23-2008, 02:19 PM
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On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 00:49:45 -0600, dzomlija wrote:

> DanS;621147 Wrote:
>> There could be, but it was too simple for MS. They could have just add
>> prompts when the IExplore.exe process tries to write to those parts of
>> the registry or system folders that malware typically do. But again,
>> too easy.

>
> The portal for running and/or installation of malware is hardly limited
> to Internet Explorer. If Microsoft liited UAC to only Internet Eplorer
> then UAC would not have been as effective as it is.


I'd have to disagree with that. Other than adware being loaded along with
some form of shareware, IE is/was responsible for *nearly* all malware/
adware installation via a browse-by install.

Another way I can think of being infected is thru HTML mail while using
Outlook, but that is rendered by the same HTML engine, so that may be
considered as IE also.

What other ways are there ? (Other than someone lame enough to open
attachments from unknown sources.)
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Old 03-01-2008, 05:45 PM
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DS;622872 Wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 00:49:45 -0600, dzomlija wrote:
> > > >
> > > DanS;621147 Wrote:
> > >
> > > The portal for running and/or installation of malware is hardly

> > limited
> > > to Internet Explorer. If Microsoft liited UAC to only Internet

> > Eplorer
> > > then UAC would not have been as effective as it is. > >

>
> I'd have to disagree with that. Other than adware being loaded along
> with
> some form of shareware, IE is/was responsible for *nearly* all
> malware/
> adware installation via a browse-by install.
>
> Another way I can think of being infected is thru HTML mail while
> using
> Outlook, but that is rendered by the same HTML engine, so that may be
> considered as IE also.
>
> What other ways are there ? (Other than someone lame enough to open
> attachments from unknown sources.)


As I said, Internet Explorer is hardly the only portal for the
introduction of malware on a computer. In order to remain neutral, I've
genralized the list:

- Internet browsers
- E-Mail clients
- No Firewalls
- Pirated software
- Peer-to-Peer software
- Flash media
- CD/DVD media
- LAN connections
- -User Ignorance-I think we'll all agree on the last item being the worst source of
malware?


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