Can I use the Windows 7 Upgrade DVD for a Clean Install ?

You can perform an upgrade to avoid reinstalling your applications but I
would always recommend a clean install of a new operating system. If you
upgrade, you carry forward any registry errors and buggy installations.


On 06/11/2009 10:33, Patrick wrote:
> Dear Dominic,
>
> Thanks for your link. Appreciate your help.
>
> Do you suggest performing a clean install or upgrade from existing Vista
> OS ?
>
> Needless to say, upgrade is much easier for me as I don't need to
> install all software, broadband connection .... etc BUT I fear that the
> upgrade will mess up the machine in the future.
>
> Thanks
> Patrick
>
> "Dominic Payer" <dcp@dcp.fsv.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:eNjvAAsXKHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> See http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/cle...rade_media.asp
>>
>>
>> On 05/11/2009 20:53, Patrick wrote:
>>> Currently I am running Windows Vista.
>>>
>>> I find that I am able to boot up the Windows 7 Upgrade DVD (from Vista).
>>> Can I perform a Clean Install from the DVD ? This is because I learn
>>> that a lot of fellows have problems in upgrading from Vista.
>>>
>>> Besides, if we can perform a clean install from the Upgrade DVD, what
>>> will be the difference between an Upgrade DVD and a Standard one ?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Patrick
>

"Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> a écrit dans le message de
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>
> "xfile" <coucou@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:eTkaFyrXKHA.1232@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> You HAVE to initiate it from within a running version of Windows.
>>
>> False.
>
> Not false. True.

True for Upgrade
False for new Install - which is possible

Dominic Payer wrote:
> You can perform an upgrade to avoid reinstalling your applications but I
> would always recommend a clean install of a new operating system. If you
> upgrade, you carry forward any registry errors and buggy installations.
>
>
> On 06/11/2009 10:33, Patrick wrote:
>> Dear Dominic,
>>
>> Thanks for your link. Appreciate your help.
>>
>> Do you suggest performing a clean install or upgrade from existing Vista
>> OS ?
>>
>> Needless to say, upgrade is much easier for me as I don't need to
>> install all software, broadband connection .... etc BUT I fear that the
>> upgrade will mess up the machine in the future.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Patrick
>>
>> "Dominic Payer" <dcp@dcp.fsv.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:eNjvAAsXKHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> See http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/cle...rade_media.asp
>>>
>>>
>>> On 05/11/2009 20:53, Patrick wrote:
>>>> Currently I am running Windows Vista.
>>>>
>>>> I find that I am able to boot up the Windows 7 Upgrade DVD (from
>>>> Vista).
>>>> Can I perform a Clean Install from the DVD ? This is because I learn
>>>> that a lot of fellows have problems in upgrading from Vista.
>>>>
>>>> Besides, if we can perform a clean install from the Upgrade DVD, what
>>>> will be the difference between an Upgrade DVD and a Standard one ?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Patrick
>>

I agree with Dominic but that being said you can try the upgrade first
and if things don't turn out you can always to a clean install. I have a
fairly new computer running Vista Ultimate and I did the upgrade instead
of a clean install. The only problem I ran into was that my anti virus
wasn't compatible (Trend Micro Pro 2009). I was happy with it anyway so
I dumped it for something else.

So far everything is going fine.

gls858

"gls858" <gls858@yahoo.com> a écrit dans le message de
news:evC0FbwXKHA.4020@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Dominic Payer wrote:
>> You can perform an upgrade to avoid reinstalling your applications but I
>> would always recommend a clean install of a new operating system. If you
>> upgrade, you carry forward any registry errors and buggy installations.
>>
>>
>> On 06/11/2009 10:33, Patrick wrote:
>>> Dear Dominic,
>>>
>>> Thanks for your link. Appreciate your help.
>>>
>>> Do you suggest performing a clean install or upgrade from existing Vista
>>> OS ?
>>>
>>> Needless to say, upgrade is much easier for me as I don't need to
>>> install all software, broadband connection .... etc BUT I fear that the
>>> upgrade will mess up the machine in the future.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>> "Dominic Payer" <dcp@dcp.fsv.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:eNjvAAsXKHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> See http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/cle...rade_media.asp
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 05/11/2009 20:53, Patrick wrote:
>>>>> Currently I am running Windows Vista.
>>>>>
>>>>> I find that I am able to boot up the Windows 7 Upgrade DVD (from
>>>>> Vista).
>>>>> Can I perform a Clean Install from the DVD ? This is because I learn
>>>>> that a lot of fellows have problems in upgrading from Vista.
>>>>>
>>>>> Besides, if we can perform a clean install from the Upgrade DVD, what
>>>>> will be the difference between an Upgrade DVD and a Standard one ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Patrick
>>>
>
> I agree with Dominic but that being said you can try the upgrade first and
> if things don't turn out you can always to a clean install. I have a
> fairly new computer running Vista Ultimate and I did the upgrade instead
> of a clean install. The only problem I ran into was that my anti virus
> wasn't compatible (Trend Micro Pro 2009). I was happy with it anyway so I
> dumped it for something else.
>
> So far everything is going fine.
>
> gls858

Microsoft Security Essential est un bon antivirus pour Windows 7 (SEPT)
absolument gratuit.

Dominic Payer wrote:
> See http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/cle...rade_media.asp
>

Does this method work if installing win7 on a virtual machine?

>
> On 05/11/2009 20:53, Patrick wrote:
>> Currently I am running Windows Vista.
>>
>> I find that I am able to boot up the Windows 7 Upgrade DVD (from Vista).
>> Can I perform a Clean Install from the DVD ? This is because I learn
>> that a lot of fellows have problems in upgrading from Vista.
>>
>> Besides, if we can perform a clean install from the Upgrade DVD, what
>> will be the difference between an Upgrade DVD and a Standard one ?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Patrick


--
"Software is like sex, it's better when it's free."
- Linus Torvalds

DRM and unintended consequences:
http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/se...35&tag=nl.e101

I don't know that it works on a virtual machine but can see no reason
why it shouldn't.


On 06/11/2009 18:23, The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly
Known as Nina DiBoy' wrote:
> Dominic Payer wrote:
>> See http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/cle...rade_media.asp
>>
>
> Does this method work if installing win7 on a virtual machine?
>
>>
>> On 05/11/2009 20:53, Patrick wrote:
>>> Currently I am running Windows Vista.
>>>
>>> I find that I am able to boot up the Windows 7 Upgrade DVD (from Vista).
>>> Can I perform a Clean Install from the DVD ? This is because I learn
>>> that a lot of fellows have problems in upgrading from Vista.
>>>
>>> Besides, if we can perform a clean install from the Upgrade DVD, what
>>> will be the difference between an Upgrade DVD and a Standard one ?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Patrick
>
>

On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 11:47:18 +0000, Dominic Payer <dcp@dcp.fsv.co.uk>
wrote:

> You can perform an upgrade to avoid reinstalling your applications but I
> would always recommend a clean install of a new operating system. If you
> upgrade, you carry forward any registry errors and buggy installations.


My opinion is exactly the opposite: Unlike with previous versions of
Windows, upgrades starting with Windows XP replace almost everything,
and usually work very well.

My recommendation is to at least try the upgrade, since it's much
easier than a clean installation. You can always change your mind and
reinstall cleanly if problems develop.

However, don't assume that doing an upgrade relieves you of the need
to backup your data, etc. before beginning. Before starting to
upgrade, it's always prudent to recognize that things like a sudden
power loss can occur in the middle of it and cause the loss of
everything. For that reason you should make sure you have backups and
anything else you need to reinstall if the worst happens.




> On 06/11/2009 10:33, Patrick wrote:
> > Dear Dominic,
> >
> > Thanks for your link. Appreciate your help.
> >
> > Do you suggest performing a clean install or upgrade from existing Vista
> > OS ?
> >
> > Needless to say, upgrade is much easier for me as I don't need to
> > install all software, broadband connection .... etc BUT I fear that the
> > upgrade will mess up the machine in the future.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Patrick
> >
> > "Dominic Payer" <dcp@dcp.fsv.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:eNjvAAsXKHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> See http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/cle...rade_media.asp
> >>
> >>
> >> On 05/11/2009 20:53, Patrick wrote:
> >>> Currently I am running Windows Vista.
> >>>
> >>> I find that I am able to boot up the Windows 7 Upgrade DVD (from Vista).
> >>> Can I perform a Clean Install from the DVD ? This is because I learn
> >>> that a lot of fellows have problems in upgrading from Vista.
> >>>
> >>> Besides, if we can perform a clean install from the Upgrade DVD, what
> >>> will be the difference between an Upgrade DVD and a Standard one ?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>> Patrick
> >

--
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"Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "xfile" <coucou@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:eTkaFyrXKHA.1232@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> You HAVE to initiate it from within a running version of Windows.
>>
>> False.
>
> Not false. True.
So how did I do a fresh install on a partition for Win7 with an upgrade
version of Home Oreimun with noproblem at all? I had XP Pro on a different
partition and now I have a Dual boot system. I boted Win7 from a DVD drive
to do this. Make sure you know what you are talking about.

You can't. You would need to purchase a Full Version Windows 7 license
if you have no qualifying Windows operating system installed.

Jack Mc Kenna wrote:
> "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:%23n2Mu3rXKHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> "xfile" <coucou@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:eTkaFyrXKHA.1232@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> You HAVE to initiate it from within a running version of Windows.
>>> False.
>> Not false. True.
> So how did I do a fresh install on a partition for Win7 with an upgrade
> version of Home Oreimun with noproblem at all? I had XP Pro on a different
> partition and now I have a Dual boot system. I boted Win7 from a DVD drive
> to do this. Make sure you know what you are talking about.
>
>

I'd be very happy to see the official words about it.

In the mean time, refer to the following and please use your common sense.


Clean install with Windows 7 upgrade media? Get the facts!

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=1505

Quotes:

Meanwhile, an argument that should have died ages ago has reared its head
again. If you purchase a discounted upgrade edition of Windows 7, can you
use it to perform a clean installation of the operating system on a PC that
doesn't currently have Windows installed?

The answer is really simple. If you qualify for an upgrade license, then
yes, you can use any number of workarounds to install the operating system
legally. If you don't qualify for an upgrade license, then those same
workarounds might technically succeed, but your license is not valid. Will
you get away with it? Probably. But if you're running a business, you run
the risk that an employee will turn you in to the Business Software
Alliance, which could lead to an audit, civil charges, and eventually some
stiff penalties.

[...]

Finally, there's the question of what older Windows versions qualify for an
upgrade to Windows 7. The answer is on the retail upgrade box: "All editions
of Windows XP and Windows Vista qualify you to upgrade. . If you are
upgrading from Windows XP, you will need to back up your files and settings,
perform a clean install and then re-install your existing files, settings,
and programs."

"Note that it specifically says "clean install," not "custom install."




http://windows.microsoft.com/upgrade?os=win7

Upgrading from Windows XP

Upgrade your current PC
If your current PC can run Windows 7, you can upgrade it. Note that you can
use upgrade media, but you must perform a custom installation of Windows 7,
which doesn't keep any of your files, programs, or settings.


Upgrading from Windows Vista

Upgrade your current PC

This table describes which editions of Windows Vista can be upgraded to
Windows 7. If you can't upgrade to the edition of Windows 7 that you want,
you can use upgrade media and perform a custom installation. A custom
installation doesn't preserve your files, programs, or settings.






"Leroy" <leroy@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> You can't. You would need to purchase a Full Version Windows 7 license if
> you have no qualifying Windows operating system installed.
>
> Jack Mc Kenna wrote:
>> "Gordon" <gordonbparker@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23n2Mu3rXKHA.4704@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> "xfile" <coucou@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:eTkaFyrXKHA.1232@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> You HAVE to initiate it from within a running version of Windows.
>>>> False.
>>> Not false. True.
>> So how did I do a fresh install on a partition for Win7 with an upgrade
>> version of Home Oreimun with noproblem at all? I had XP Pro on a
>> different partition and now I have a Dual boot system. I boted Win7 from
>> a DVD drive to do this. Make sure you know what you are talking about.