On Jun 5, 5:20 pm, "sc-blues" <david.colema...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> I have had the same problem. Most sound cards do not allow system mix
> recording under Vista. This means that it is no longer possible to record
> streamed audio as it plays. I have overcome the problem by using RMRecorder
> and WMRecorder from Applian. These download streamed Real Media and streamed
> Windows Media files from source. (They also work for streamed video).
> Applian also make a program called Replay Converter which converts the
> downloaded files into MP3s etc (and the video into AVIs etc). I'm afraid
> these programs all cost money but they work well in Vista.
>
> I have also found that Magix Webradio Deluxe 2 also works in Vista and
> allows you to record web radio programs.
>
> Aplplian's Replay Radio does not work in Vista.
>
> "species8350" <not_here.5.species8...@xoxy.net> wrote in message
>
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>
>
>
> > Audacity appears not to be able to record under Windows Vista Home
> > Premium (32 bit).
>
> > Has anyone found a good free programme that will record under Vista
>
> > I'd like to record music from radio programmes over the Net.
>
> > Thanks- Hide quoted text -
>
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Thanks for the info.
I thought I wasn't going mad.
People seem to think that the function is there
I would have thought that a simple pluginn for Audacity would be
available to solve this problem.
On Jun 5, 6:39 pm, "Cal Bear '66" <x...@xxx.org> wrote:
> Right click on the Speaker icon in the Notification Area of the Taskbar, select
> Recording Devices, right click on Recording Devices window, select both Show
> Disabled Devices and Show Disconnected Devices and "Stereo Mix" should be there.
> Or go to Control Panel > Sound and click on Recording Devices.
>
> In Device Manager my driver version is 6.0.1.5397.
>
> Why don't you install the latest drivers from Realtek (only one HD driver is
> available)?
>
> --
> I Bleed Blue and Gold
> GO BEARS!
>
> "Delboy" <spamfree.delboy....@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> > Hi Cal Bear '66
>
> > No such options :-{ Going into Realtek HD Audio Manager; No button for
> > Recording device. Going into Device advanced settings/recording mgr, get the
> > options to tie all input devices (line in, microphone) or separate all input
> > jacks. According to Device manager, driver is 6.0.1.5413. BTW my box is 1 1/2
> > months old. Must be a different Realtek HD device. Will contact PB forum and
> > see if there is any guidance there.
>
> > --
>
> > Delboy
>
> > A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely
> > foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.
>
> > Douglas Adams
> > "Cal Bear '66" <x...@xxx.org> wrote in message
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> >> My built-in Realtek HD audio adapter has "Stereo Mix".
>
> >> Have you right clicked on the Recording Devices window and selected both Show
> >> Disabled Devices and Show Disconnected Devices?
>
> >> Do you have v. 1.67 of the Realtek drivers?
>
> >>http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/...Langid=1&PNid=...
>
> >> --
> >> I Bleed Blue and Gold
> >> GO BEARS!
>
> >> "Delboy" <spamfree.delboy....@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> >>news:OzX1Jh4pHHA.3368@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >>> If species8350's sound card does not allow Stereo Mix, I guess he is out of
> >>> luck. Either have to record to cassette and record to computer via line in,
> >>> or buy another sound card that gives this option.
>
> >>> My Vista box has a Realtek HD, wired into the MB which doesn't have this
> >>> option. My old WinME box's soundcard was wired into the MB. When it went
> >>> toes up, I bought a Creative 24 Bit, Model SB0410. This has the Stereo Mix
> >>> option. Am thinking of disabling the Realtek card, and putting in the
> >>> Creative card, but then I would lose other useful facilities like the front
> >>> sockets etc.+
>
> >>> --
>
> >>> Delboy
>
> >>> A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely
> >>> foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.
>
> >>> Douglas Adams
> >>> "Barry" <n...@spam.ta> wrote in message
> >>>news:%23%23LyrJ3pHHA.4632@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl. ..
> >>>> Just a thought, do you have "Stereo Mix" enabled? Go to Control Panel |
> >>>> Classic View | Sound | Recording Tab and check in there
>
> >>>> "species8350" <not_here.5.species8...@xoxy.net> wrote in message
> >>>>news:1181001715.610202.295680@p77g2000hsh.goog legroups.com...
> >>>>> Audacity appears not to be able to record under Windows Vista Home
> >>>>> Premium (32 bit).
>
> >>>>> Has anyone found a good free programme that will record under Vista
>
> >>>>> I'd like to record music from radio programmes over the Net.
>
> >>>>> Thanks- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I didn't install the Realteck drivers because I have SigmaTel drivers.
When getting Windows to check for updates, I am told that I have the
latest drivers.
PS. Not sure what would happen if I install realtek drivers. Is my
system capatible with these drivers - I don't know
Don't know if what I'm recording is relative to you, but I am using
Audacity to digitise my collection of vinyl records at the moment, and
it works fine in Vista for that. I'm using an ION USB record deck to
play the records.
I haven't tried any other recording using Audacity.
Bye for now.
On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 17:01:55 -0700, species8350
<not_here.5.species8350@xoxy.net> wrote:
>Audacity appears not to be able to record under Windows Vista Home
>Premium (32 bit).
>
>Has anyone found a good free programme that will record under Vista
>
>I'd like to record music from radio programmes over the Net.
>
>Thanks
Bye for now,
I think this is because Audacity is using the "line in" recording facility
on the sound card which is still available. Streamed audio needs to be
recorded from "system mix" which is not available.
"George Dingwall" <george.gdingwall@virgin.net> wrote in message
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> Hi there,
>
> Don't know if what I'm recording is relative to you, but I am using
> Audacity to digitise my collection of vinyl records at the moment, and
> it works fine in Vista for that. I'm using an ION USB record deck to
> play the records.
>
> I haven't tried any other recording using Audacity.
>
> Bye for now.
>
Microsoft has made extensive changes in the Vista/Windows server 2008
audio interface in an effort to improve performance and to impose strict
Digital Rights Management (DRM). Unfortunately, the changes have proven
to be a catastrophe for users and vendors of audio converting hardware.
Windows XP/Server 2003 audio drivers do not work with Vista and the
implementation of Vista compatible drivers can be a complicated and time
consuming process. Even worse, depending on a specific implementation, a
driver may or not support the features that are required by individual
application programs.
A case in point is the capability of recording streaming data in real
time. Most Vista audio application programs require a Play Back Device
interface that comes under a variety of names including "Stereo Mix",
"What U Hear" and "Digital Audio Interface".
The application program will not be able to capture the audio unless one
of this interfaces is present. Its existence apparently depends on the
specific sound card device and the implementation of its driver. A
considerable amount has been written on this subject in various Internet
forums and Web sites. The user is unfortunately of out luck if his sound
card/driver combination doesn't support the required interface.
sc-blues wrote:
> I think this is because Audacity is using the "line in" recording
> facility on the sound card which is still available. Streamed audio
> needs to be recorded from "system mix" which is not available.
> "George Dingwall" <george.gdingwall@virgin.net> wrote in message
> news:kbfd63tte9er6d6romn3t25mc2o0b56s9n@4ax.com...
>> Hi there,
>>
>> Don't know if what I'm recording is relative to you, but I am using
>> Audacity to digitise my collection of vinyl records at the moment, and
>> it works fine in Vista for that. I'm using an ION USB record deck to
>> play the records.
>>
>> I haven't tried any other recording using Audacity.
>>
>> Bye for now.
>>
>
An important sound card exception that I failed to mention is that some
have a loopback feature. This makes it possible to create multiple
playback channels that contain the same audio. You can use this feature
to circumvent specific Vista/Windows server 2008 audio restrictions.
This approach works fine with the LynxStudio L22 and RME HDSP 2496 Pro
Audio sound cards. I do not have a list of all the sound cards that have
this capability.
Robert Robinson wrote:
> Microsoft has made extensive changes in the Vista/Windows server 2008
> audio interface in an effort to improve performance and to impose strict
> Digital Rights Management (DRM). Unfortunately, the changes have proven
> to be a catastrophe for users and vendors of audio converting hardware.
> Windows XP/Server 2003 audio drivers do not work with Vista and the
> implementation of Vista compatible drivers can be a complicated and time
> consuming process. Even worse, depending on a specific implementation, a
> driver may or not support the features that are required by individual
> application programs.
> A case in point is the capability of recording streaming data in real
> time. Most Vista audio application programs require a Play Back Device
> interface that comes under a variety of names including "Stereo Mix",
> "What U Hear" and "Digital Audio Interface".
> The application program will not be able to capture the audio unless one
> of this interfaces is present. Its existence apparently depends on the
> specific sound card device and the implementation of its driver. A
> considerable amount has been written on this subject in various Internet
> forums and Web sites. The user is unfortunately of out luck if his sound
> card/driver combination doesn't support the required interface.
>
> sc-blues wrote:
>> I think this is because Audacity is using the "line in" recording
>> facility on the sound card which is still available. Streamed audio
>> needs to be recorded from "system mix" which is not available.
>> "George Dingwall" <george.gdingwall@virgin.net> wrote in message
>> news:kbfd63tte9er6d6romn3t25mc2o0b56s9n@4ax.com...
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> Don't know if what I'm recording is relative to you, but I am using
>>> Audacity to digitise my collection of vinyl records at the moment, and
>>> it works fine in Vista for that. I'm using an ION USB record deck to
>>> play the records.
>>>
>>> I haven't tried any other recording using Audacity.
>>>
>>> Bye for now.
>>>
>>
I've just had a go with recording streaming sound with Audacity and it
works OK.
You have to change a couple of settings in the preferences, and it may
be that the options available there are specific to your graphics
card, but it does work.
This is what I did.
Open the preferences dialog.
On the Audio I/O tab change the playback device to SPDIF Out (
Creative SB X-Fi). Then change the recording device to "What U Hear"
(Creative SB X-Fi)
Press OK
With the streaming audio now playing, press the record button. The
audio will now be recorded. When you have recorded enough, click the
stop button.
To play back the recorded audio in Audacity I then had to reset the
playback device to Microsoft Sound Mapper - Output.
After all that, you can use all of Audacity's editing option on the
recorded audio.
Hope this helps.
On Thu, 7 Jun 2007 10:53:48 +0100, "sc-blues"
<david.coleman15@btinternet.com> wrote:
>I think this is because Audacity is using the "line in" recording facility
>on the sound card which is still available. Streamed audio needs to be
>recorded from "system mix" which is not available.
>"George Dingwall" <george.gdingwall@virgin.net> wrote in message
>news:kbfd63tte9er6d6romn3t25mc2o0b56s9n@4ax.com.. .
>> Hi there,
>>
>> Don't know if what I'm recording is relative to you, but I am using
>> Audacity to digitise my collection of vinyl records at the moment, and
>> it works fine in Vista for that. I'm using an ION USB record deck to
>> play the records.
>>
>> I haven't tried any other recording using Audacity.
>>
>> Bye for now.
>>
Bye for now,
Audacity beta 1.3.3 works fine with Vista/Windows Server 2008.
To record streaming audio as from a radio station you need a combination
of sound converter hardware and an associated driver that supports a
"StereoMix" or equivalent output. "StereoMix" is the nomenclature of a
specific vendor and there are other names for this same functionality.
The basic problem is that you need to be able to pass the audio signal
to more than one output so that two or more programs can independently
share the same audio data.
If the "StereoMix" or equivalent output function is not available, you
need a sound converter that has loopback capability either in its
software mixer or by use of an external cable. Examples of sound
converters that have the loopback capability are the RME HDSP 9632 and
the LynxStudio L22. These are expensive, Pro Audio cards.
Another issue is that different radio stations use different
technologies for streaming audio. Depending on the availability of the
required CODECS, you may need to use more than one player in order to
handle all of the formats.
We have had very good success with a combination of the RME HDSP 9632
sound converter, its superb software mixer with facilitates loopback of
the audio data to multiple outputs, the VLC Media Player, and Audacity
beta 1.3.3. Samplitude SE also works well and is reasonable in cost.
All of the above hardware, drivers, and application programs work
properly with Windows Server 2008 and should also be fully compatible
with Vista.
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