> ...don't come to a Microsoft community newsgroup with an attitude like "knowing
> Microsoft software it may not work..." when you were the one who tinkered
> the system into its current state.
>
In this instance I'd beg to differ. For no good reason (other than perhaps
to actively prevent coexistence with other OS's, or to prevent its transfer
by disk-imaging...? ) Vista modifies the MBR in a special way. Here the
problem is clearly that of the Microsoft OS deliberately playing the
"Neighbor from Hell" on a shared PC.
There is no reason for any OS to modify the MBR, in fact the MBR is not part
of the disk partition as such. Some bootloaders install into the MBR, but
then that is part of their proper function as means to boot from ultiple
partitions. The OS itself should not touch it.
after the removal of vista and the removal of the vista boot manager, i ran
into a new issue. you know how the BIOS kind of acts of as a boot manager
giving you F9 and F10 optoins and stuff?
well, all the additional options after that have disapeared for me after the
removal of vista. i think it had something to do with the removal of vista
and its boot manager. the BIOS in my notebook in my laptop had aditional
options that appeared after the main BIOS slash screen. these options were
for recovery options and stuff.
does anyone have any ideas of how to fix this issue? this screen is needed
to create restore CDs or DVDs from the restore partition on the hard drive.
there were a lot of other advanced options as well.
Steven Wabik wrote:
> after the removal of vista and the removal of the vista boot manager, i ran
> into a new issue. you know how the BIOS kind of acts of as a boot manager
> giving you F9 and F10 optoins and stuff?
>
> well, all the additional options after that have disapeared for me after the
> removal of vista. i think it had something to do with the removal of vista
> and its boot manager. the BIOS in my notebook in my laptop had aditional
> options that appeared after the main BIOS slash screen. these options were
> for recovery options and stuff.
>
> does anyone have any ideas of how to fix this issue? this screen is needed
> to create restore CDs or DVDs from the restore partition on the hard drive.
> there were a lot of other advanced options as well.
>
>
How exactly did you remove Vista?
If there's a restore partition then it's an OEM install and MS offer no
support but the maker should be able to supply recovery media. If you
don;t want to put Vista back then those options are no good to you
anyway, what you planning to run on the machine?
i used vistabootpro v3.3 to remove the vista bootmanager which i guess
failed. then i just deleted the partition that had vista on it. i was
running a dual boot with XP and Vista. after i deleted the vista partition i
extented the XP partition. after vista was all gone the OEM recovery options
in the BIOS were gone, but the recovery partition was ok at least. i already
made my XP recovery DVDs from when i first got my tablet PC before HP sent
me the vista OEM CDs for the tablet.
i just want to know if anyone has any ideas of how to fix the BIOS boot
manager that lets you access the OEM recovery manager.
"Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message
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> Steven Wabik wrote:
>> after the removal of vista and the removal of the vista boot manager, i
>> ran into a new issue. you know how the BIOS kind of acts of as a boot
>> manager giving you F9 and F10 optoins and stuff?
>>
>> well, all the additional options after that have disapeared for me after
>> the removal of vista. i think it had something to do with the removal of
>> vista and its boot manager. the BIOS in my notebook in my laptop had
>> aditional options that appeared after the main BIOS slash screen. these
>> options were for recovery options and stuff.
>>
>> does anyone have any ideas of how to fix this issue? this screen is
>> needed to create restore CDs or DVDs from the restore partition on the
>> hard drive. there were a lot of other advanced options as well.
>
>
> How exactly did you remove Vista?
>
> If there's a restore partition then it's an OEM install and MS offer no
> support but the maker should be able to supply recovery media. If you
> don;t want to put Vista back then those options are no good to you anyway,
> what you planning to run on the machine?
Contact the support section of the vistabootpro v3.3 and ask them how to
repair the situation. If you use a third-party application to "fix"
something and it breaks it instead, they are the ones responsible.
--
Chris H.
Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/ http://forums.mobilepcworld.net
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
"Steven Wabik" <Stevenw45@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>i used vistabootpro v3.3 to remove the vista bootmanager which i guess
>failed. then i just deleted the partition that had vista on it. i was
>running a dual boot with XP and Vista. after i deleted the vista partition
>i extented the XP partition. after vista was all gone the OEM recovery
>options in the BIOS were gone, but the recovery partition was ok at least.
>i already made my XP recovery DVDs from when i first got my tablet PC
>before HP sent me the vista OEM CDs for the tablet.
>
> i just want to know if anyone has any ideas of how to fix the BIOS boot
> manager that lets you access the OEM recovery manager.
>
> "Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message
> news:eAJG1S9LIHA.4228@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Steven Wabik wrote:
>>> after the removal of vista and the removal of the vista boot manager, i
>>> ran into a new issue. you know how the BIOS kind of acts of as a boot
>>> manager giving you F9 and F10 optoins and stuff?
>>>
>>> well, all the additional options after that have disapeared for me after
>>> the removal of vista. i think it had something to do with the removal of
>>> vista and its boot manager. the BIOS in my notebook in my laptop had
>>> aditional options that appeared after the main BIOS slash screen. these
>>> options were for recovery options and stuff.
>>>
>>> does anyone have any ideas of how to fix this issue? this screen is
>>> needed to create restore CDs or DVDs from the restore partition on the
>>> hard drive. there were a lot of other advanced options as well.
>>
>>
>> How exactly did you remove Vista?
>>
>> If there's a restore partition then it's an OEM install and MS offer no
>> support but the maker should be able to supply recovery media. If you
>> don;t want to put Vista back then those options are no good to you
>> anyway, what you planning to run on the machine?
>
>
i'm not trying to repair vista. i wanted to remove vista in which it did,
but then it removed something else instead in which it should not have.
should i still contact them about it.
after vista was removed, the OEM recovery options in the BIOS disapeared.
help me restore the OEM restore options to the BIOS, if you have any idea of
course.
"Chris H" <VistaMobilePC@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Contact the support section of the vistabootpro v3.3 and ask them how to
> repair the situation. If you use a third-party application to "fix"
> something and it breaks it instead, they are the ones responsible.
> --
> Chris H.
> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
> http://forums.mobilepcworld.net
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>
> "Steven Wabik" <Stevenw45@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:udwxZc9LIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>i used vistabootpro v3.3 to remove the vista bootmanager which i guess
>>failed. then i just deleted the partition that had vista on it. i was
>>running a dual boot with XP and Vista. after i deleted the vista partition
>>i extented the XP partition. after vista was all gone the OEM recovery
>>options in the BIOS were gone, but the recovery partition was ok at least.
>>i already made my XP recovery DVDs from when i first got my tablet PC
>>before HP sent me the vista OEM CDs for the tablet.
>>
>> i just want to know if anyone has any ideas of how to fix the BIOS boot
>> manager that lets you access the OEM recovery manager.
>>
>> "Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message
>> news:eAJG1S9LIHA.4228@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Steven Wabik wrote:
>>>> after the removal of vista and the removal of the vista boot manager, i
>>>> ran into a new issue. you know how the BIOS kind of acts of as a boot
>>>> manager giving you F9 and F10 optoins and stuff?
>>>>
>>>> well, all the additional options after that have disapeared for me
>>>> after the removal of vista. i think it had something to do with the
>>>> removal of vista and its boot manager. the BIOS in my notebook in my
>>>> laptop had aditional options that appeared after the main BIOS slash
>>>> screen. these options were for recovery options and stuff.
>>>>
>>>> does anyone have any ideas of how to fix this issue? this screen is
>>>> needed to create restore CDs or DVDs from the restore partition on the
>>>> hard drive. there were a lot of other advanced options as well.
>>>
>>>
>>> How exactly did you remove Vista?
>>>
>>> If there's a restore partition then it's an OEM install and MS offer no
>>> support but the maker should be able to supply recovery media. If you
>>> don;t want to put Vista back then those options are no good to you
>>> anyway, what you planning to run on the machine?
>>
>>
>
Okay, well I think only the OEM can tell you what was originally there
but the Vistaboot pro forums might help, it sounds like the options were
in the original bootblocks not the BIOS since if you had deleted the
BIOS I think you'd know, and have a nice paperweight on the desk.
It may be possible for you yo find someone with an identical machine and
copy their bootblock since Vistaboot pro can do this, but that sounds
like a heck of a lot of trouble and if anybody knows how to do it they
just might be the people to ask.
Steven Wabik wrote:
> i'm not trying to repair vista. i wanted to remove vista in which it did,
> but then it removed something else instead in which it should not have.
> should i still contact them about it.
>
> after vista was removed, the OEM recovery options in the BIOS disapeared.
> help me restore the OEM restore options to the BIOS, if you have any idea of
> course.
>
> "Chris H" <VistaMobilePC@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:9174A445-52DE-4511-B9EC-ED1BCA77B982@microsoft.com...
>> Contact the support section of the vistabootpro v3.3 and ask them how to
>> repair the situation. If you use a third-party application to "fix"
>> something and it breaks it instead, they are the ones responsible.
>> --
>> Chris H.
>> Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
>> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
>> http://forums.mobilepcworld.net
>> Associate Expert
>> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>
>> "Steven Wabik" <Stevenw45@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:udwxZc9LIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> i used vistabootpro v3.3 to remove the vista bootmanager which i guess
>>> failed. then i just deleted the partition that had vista on it. i was
>>> running a dual boot with XP and Vista. after i deleted the vista partition
>>> i extented the XP partition. after vista was all gone the OEM recovery
>>> options in the BIOS were gone, but the recovery partition was ok at least.
>>> i already made my XP recovery DVDs from when i first got my tablet PC
>>> before HP sent me the vista OEM CDs for the tablet.
>>>
>>> i just want to know if anyone has any ideas of how to fix the BIOS boot
>>> manager that lets you access the OEM recovery manager.
>>>
>>> "Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> wrote in message
>>> news:eAJG1S9LIHA.4228@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> Steven Wabik wrote:
>>>>> after the removal of vista and the removal of the vista boot manager, i
>>>>> ran into a new issue. you know how the BIOS kind of acts of as a boot
>>>>> manager giving you F9 and F10 optoins and stuff?
>>>>>
>>>>> well, all the additional options after that have disapeared for me
>>>>> after the removal of vista. i think it had something to do with the
>>>>> removal of vista and its boot manager. the BIOS in my notebook in my
>>>>> laptop had aditional options that appeared after the main BIOS slash
>>>>> screen. these options were for recovery options and stuff.
>>>>>
>>>>> does anyone have any ideas of how to fix this issue? this screen is
>>>>> needed to create restore CDs or DVDs from the restore partition on the
>>>>> hard drive. there were a lot of other advanced options as well.
>>>>
>>>> How exactly did you remove Vista?
>>>>
>>>> If there's a restore partition then it's an OEM install and MS offer no
>>>> support but the maker should be able to supply recovery media. If you
>>>> don;t want to put Vista back then those options are no good to you
>>>> anyway, what you planning to run on the machine?
>>>
>
>
Virtual PC 7 with Intel VT enabled in BIOS and sufficient RAM gives me a
very speedy VM that appears to run at nearly full speed. But I know
virtualization isn't 2 machines. That wasn't my point. My point was using
virtualization to deal with the few cases where the new OS (in this case
Vista) is incompatible with older software. For most things, virtualization
isn't necessary. Dual boot is overkill. It's why more people prefer
Parallels on the Mac than Bootcamp.
But either way, dual booting in Windows (and most other OS's) isn't designed
to be as much of a no brainer as Bootcamp. It requires some knowledge (or
luck) about what is going on. While virtualization isn't always a piece of
cake either, it's alot less risky.
--
Josh Einstein (Tablet PC MVP)
Einstein Technologies
Tablet Enhancements for Outlook - Try it free: www.tabletoutlook.com
"the wharf rat" <wrat@panix.com> wrote in message
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> In article <11DEA2DD-535F-48E8-BF49-F3956AB00C25@microsoft.com>,
> Josh Einstein <josh@einsteintech.net> wrote:
>>How to avoid it in the future? Well for starters, don't dual boot. With
>>virtualization where it is today, it's rarely necessary.
>
> He may not have the horsepower. Virtualization doesn't give you
> 2 machines you know...
>
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