Hi.
I've been reading a few posts on this process but some things still
seem up in the air; so I'd very much like some clarifaction specific to
my setup.
I purchased Vista Ultimate upgrade media retail edition 18 months ago
and installed Ultimate 32-bit on to my laptop using the supplied product
key.
I now have a new Dell laptop which came with Vista Ultimate 32-bit
installed. What I want to do is dual-boot Ultimate 64-bit on this
laptop. So, how should I go about installing Ultimate 64-bit using the
included 64-bit installation media included in the retail copy I bought
18 months ago? Will I be using the Dell OEM 32-bit key?
Thanks .
willat8 wrote:
> Hi.
> I've been reading a few posts on this process but some things still
> seem up in the air; so I'd very much like some clarifaction specific to
> my setup.
> I purchased Vista Ultimate upgrade media retail edition 18 months ago
> and installed Ultimate 32-bit on to my laptop using the supplied product
> key.
> I now have a new Dell laptop which came with Vista Ultimate 32-bit
> installed. What I want to do is dual-boot Ultimate 64-bit on this
> laptop. So, how should I go about installing Ultimate 64-bit using the
> included 64-bit installation media included in the retail copy I bought
> 18 months ago?
You'll first have to unistall the Vista Ultimate 32-bit Upgrade from
the first laptop so that it's license will be available for installation
on the newer computer.
> Will I be using the Dell OEM 32-bit key?
No, of course not. You'll have to use the 64-bit Product Key that came
with the Vista Ultimate Upgrade DVD (after you've removed it from the
old computer).
"willat8" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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>
> Hi.
> I've been reading a few posts on this process but some things still
> seem up in the air; so I'd very much like some clarifaction specific to
> my setup.
> I purchased Vista Ultimate upgrade media retail edition 18 months ago
> and installed Ultimate 32-bit on to my laptop using the supplied product
> key.
> I now have a new Dell laptop which came with Vista Ultimate 32-bit
> installed. What I want to do is dual-boot Ultimate 64-bit on this
> laptop. So, how should I go about installing Ultimate 64-bit using the
> included 64-bit installation media included in the retail copy I bought
> 18 months ago? Will I be using the Dell OEM 32-bit key?
> Thanks .
>
>
> --
> willat8
Boot with the x64 dvd and enter your Vista Ultimate upgrade product key.
x64 Setup will find your x86 Vista and let you proceed. You will have the
option to install to the partition with Vista x86 (which you don't want to
do) and to a second partition without an OS (which you do). x64 Setup will
set up the dual boot menu for you. You can manage the two partitions easily
with VistaBoot Pro 3.3 installed on either OS.
Thank you for your reply, Colin. However, the crux of the matter is
whether my Dell product key will work. The retail product key is already
registered with my old laptop; and so I'm assuming will not work with my
new one.
"willat8" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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>
> Thank you for your reply, Colin. However, the crux of the matter is
> whether my Dell product key will work. The retail product key is already
> registered with my old laptop; and so I'm assuming will not work with my
> new one.
>
>
> --
> willat8
No, you cannot use the product key from Dell. That would retire the license
for an installation of Vista you are planning to keep.
I am a little confused here. Is the upgrade edition you bought 18 months
ago in use on any computer now or not? If it is you can't use that product
key again while it in use on the other computer. If it is not you can reuse
it but it gets a little complicated.
Essentially you cannot use the upgrade product key to install Vista x64 on
the new machine without retiring a license. You don't want to retire the
license for the x86 Vista already on it because you plan to continue using
it. What you need is a third Windows license eligible for upgrade to Vista
that you can retire instead.
I can give some suggestions if you want to go that route.
Each key is only licensed for one working installation at a time. As you
have two keys and two working installations you need to purchase another key
for another installation. The same key cannot be used for two concurrent
installations.
"willat8" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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>
> Hi.
> I've been reading a few posts on this process but some things still
> seem up in the air; so I'd very much like some clarifaction specific to
> my setup.
> I purchased Vista Ultimate upgrade media retail edition 18 months ago
> and installed Ultimate 32-bit on to my laptop using the supplied product
> key.
> I now have a new Dell laptop which came with Vista Ultimate 32-bit
> installed. What I want to do is dual-boot Ultimate 64-bit on this
> laptop. So, how should I go about installing Ultimate 64-bit using the
> included 64-bit installation media included in the retail copy I bought
> 18 months ago? Will I be using the Dell OEM 32-bit key?
> Thanks .
>
>
> --
> willat8
I think you are trying to:
1. Maintain the 32-bit VU OEM installation as one boot path on the new
laptop, and
2. Install the 64-bit VU Upgrade as your second boot path on the same
computer.
You stated that you installed VU 32-bit on your laptop with the upgrade
product key. This essentially "retired" your previous installation's product
key.
If you remove VU 32-bit from the first laptop, you could re-activate your
"retired" product key with the original product.
You could then re-use the upgrade product key on another machine for the
64-bit upgrade version, BUT what are you upgrading if you create a second
boot path with this upgrade edition?
Can it be done? Yes
Legally? Not unless you retire some other product key. Got an old copy of XP
or 2K sitting on the shelf?
"willat8" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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>
> Hi.
> I've been reading a few posts on this process but some things still
> seem up in the air; so I'd very much like some clarifaction specific to
> my setup.
> I purchased Vista Ultimate upgrade media retail edition 18 months ago
> and installed Ultimate 32-bit on to my laptop using the supplied product
> key.
> I now have a new Dell laptop which came with Vista Ultimate 32-bit
> installed. What I want to do is dual-boot Ultimate 64-bit on this
> laptop. So, how should I go about installing Ultimate 64-bit using the
> included 64-bit installation media included in the retail copy I bought
> 18 months ago? Will I be using the Dell OEM 32-bit key?
> Thanks .
>
>
> --
> willat8
> I think you are trying to:
> 1. Maintain the 32-bit VU OEM installation as one boot path on the new
> laptop, and
> 2. Install the 64-bit VU Upgrade as your second boot path on the same
> computer.
>
> You stated that you installed VU 32-bit on your laptop with the upgrade
> product key. This essentially "retired" your previous installation's product
> key.
>
> If you remove VU 32-bit from the first laptop, you could re-activate your
> "retired" product key with the original product.
> You could then re-use the upgrade product key on another machine for the
> 64-bit upgrade version, BUT what are you upgrading if you create a second
> boot path with this upgrade edition?
>
> Can it be done? Yes
> Legally? Not unless you retire some other product key. Got an old copy of XP
> or 2K sitting on the shelf?
>
>
> "willat8" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
> news:b62aa5d6feac4903c74271f90c1fa41c@nntp-gateway.com...
> >
> > Hi.
> > I've been reading a few posts on this process but some things still
> > seem up in the air; so I'd very much like some clarifaction specific to
> > my setup.
> > I purchased Vista Ultimate upgrade media retail edition 18 months ago
> > and installed Ultimate 32-bit on to my laptop using the supplied product
> > key.
> > I now have a new Dell laptop which came with Vista Ultimate 32-bit
> > installed. What I want to do is dual-boot Ultimate 64-bit on this
> > laptop. So, how should I go about installing Ultimate 64-bit using the
> > included 64-bit installation media included in the retail copy I bought
> > 18 months ago? Will I be using the Dell OEM 32-bit key?
> > Thanks .
> >
> >
> > --
> > willat8
>
> Thank you very much for your help everyone.
To clarify: I have one spare copy of WinXP lying around. Also, I assume that
uninstalling both XP and Vista will de-register their product keys for
subsequent use on different machines?
So, the steps I need to take are:
1. Install WinXP on my NEW laptop in a dual-boot environment with the
current Vista Ultimate 32-bit OS.
2. Upgrade over the WinXP installation to Vista Ultimate 64-bit, but not
insert product key just yet. At this point, the WinXP key is not in use by
any OSs?
3. Downgrade from Vista Ultimate on my old laptop to WinXP. At this point,
the retail Vista Ultimate key is not in use by any OSs?
5. Activate Vista Ultimate 64-bit on my new laptop with the newly
de-registered product key.
If the WinXP you are putting on the old machine is the same as the WinXP
your are upgrading on the new machine, then you are violating the EULA. You
didn't retire a product key.
If you have an on the shelf product that you can expire and it meets the
upgrade path criteria for Vista, then you install that on the new machine as
your second boot path. You will enter the product key for Vista when you
upgrade to x64 since you are replacing a previous windows.
"Will" <Will@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Mark H" wrote:
>
>> I think you are trying to:
>> 1. Maintain the 32-bit VU OEM installation as one boot path on the new
>> laptop, and
>> 2. Install the 64-bit VU Upgrade as your second boot path on the same
>> computer.
>>
>> You stated that you installed VU 32-bit on your laptop with the upgrade
>> product key. This essentially "retired" your previous installation's
>> product
>> key.
>>
>> If you remove VU 32-bit from the first laptop, you could re-activate your
>> "retired" product key with the original product.
>> You could then re-use the upgrade product key on another machine for the
>> 64-bit upgrade version, BUT what are you upgrading if you create a second
>> boot path with this upgrade edition?
>>
>> Can it be done? Yes
>> Legally? Not unless you retire some other product key. Got an old copy of
>> XP
>> or 2K sitting on the shelf?
>>
>>
>> "willat8" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
>> news:b62aa5d6feac4903c74271f90c1fa41c@nntp-gateway.com...
>> >
>> > Hi.
>> > I've been reading a few posts on this process but some things still
>> > seem up in the air; so I'd very much like some clarifaction specific to
>> > my setup.
>> > I purchased Vista Ultimate upgrade media retail edition 18 months ago
>> > and installed Ultimate 32-bit on to my laptop using the supplied
>> > product
>> > key.
>> > I now have a new Dell laptop which came with Vista Ultimate 32-bit
>> > installed. What I want to do is dual-boot Ultimate 64-bit on this
>> > laptop. So, how should I go about installing Ultimate 64-bit using the
>> > included 64-bit installation media included in the retail copy I bought
>> > 18 months ago? Will I be using the Dell OEM 32-bit key?
>> > Thanks .
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > willat8
>>
>> Thank you very much for your help everyone.
>
> To clarify: I have one spare copy of WinXP lying around. Also, I assume
> that
> uninstalling both XP and Vista will de-register their product keys for
> subsequent use on different machines?
>
> So, the steps I need to take are:
>
> 1. Install WinXP on my NEW laptop in a dual-boot environment with the
> current Vista Ultimate 32-bit OS.
>
> 2. Upgrade over the WinXP installation to Vista Ultimate 64-bit, but not
> insert product key just yet. At this point, the WinXP key is not in use by
> any OSs?
>
> 3. Downgrade from Vista Ultimate on my old laptop to WinXP. At this point,
> the retail Vista Ultimate key is not in use by any OSs?
>
> 5. Activate Vista Ultimate 64-bit on my new laptop with the newly
> de-registered product key.
>
> Am I heading in the right direction now?
>>
So is it a violation of the EULA if I install XP on to the new machine,
upgrade over it so that it is no longer installed on that machine, and then
install it on to my old machine? It's only ever installed on one computer at
one time.
"Mark H" wrote:
> If the WinXP you are putting on the old machine is the same as the WinXP
> your are upgrading on the new machine, then you are violating the EULA. You
> didn't retire a product key.
>
> If you have an on the shelf product that you can expire and it meets the
> upgrade path criteria for Vista, then you install that on the new machine as
> your second boot path. You will enter the product key for Vista when you
> upgrade to x64 since you are replacing a previous windows.
>
> "Will" <Will@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:1DF71F96-72CB-4CF0-AB95-807218EAEEAD@microsoft.com...
> >
> >
> > "Mark H" wrote:
> >
> >> I think you are trying to:
> >> 1. Maintain the 32-bit VU OEM installation as one boot path on the new
> >> laptop, and
> >> 2. Install the 64-bit VU Upgrade as your second boot path on the same
> >> computer.
> >>
> >> You stated that you installed VU 32-bit on your laptop with the upgrade
> >> product key. This essentially "retired" your previous installation's
> >> product
> >> key.
> >>
> >> If you remove VU 32-bit from the first laptop, you could re-activate your
> >> "retired" product key with the original product.
> >> You could then re-use the upgrade product key on another machine for the
> >> 64-bit upgrade version, BUT what are you upgrading if you create a second
> >> boot path with this upgrade edition?
> >>
> >> Can it be done? Yes
> >> Legally? Not unless you retire some other product key. Got an old copy of
> >> XP
> >> or 2K sitting on the shelf?
> >>
> >>
> >> "willat8" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
> >> news:b62aa5d6feac4903c74271f90c1fa41c@nntp-gateway.com...
> >> >
> >> > Hi.
> >> > I've been reading a few posts on this process but some things still
> >> > seem up in the air; so I'd very much like some clarifaction specific to
> >> > my setup.
> >> > I purchased Vista Ultimate upgrade media retail edition 18 months ago
> >> > and installed Ultimate 32-bit on to my laptop using the supplied
> >> > product
> >> > key.
> >> > I now have a new Dell laptop which came with Vista Ultimate 32-bit
> >> > installed. What I want to do is dual-boot Ultimate 64-bit on this
> >> > laptop. So, how should I go about installing Ultimate 64-bit using the
> >> > included 64-bit installation media included in the retail copy I bought
> >> > 18 months ago? Will I be using the Dell OEM 32-bit key?
> >> > Thanks .
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > willat8
> >>
> >> Thank you very much for your help everyone.
> >
> > To clarify: I have one spare copy of WinXP lying around. Also, I assume
> > that
> > uninstalling both XP and Vista will de-register their product keys for
> > subsequent use on different machines?
> >
> > So, the steps I need to take are:
> >
> > 1. Install WinXP on my NEW laptop in a dual-boot environment with the
> > current Vista Ultimate 32-bit OS.
> >
> > 2. Upgrade over the WinXP installation to Vista Ultimate 64-bit, but not
> > insert product key just yet. At this point, the WinXP key is not in use by
> > any OSs?
> >
> > 3. Downgrade from Vista Ultimate on my old laptop to WinXP. At this point,
> > the retail Vista Ultimate key is not in use by any OSs?
> >
> > 5. Activate Vista Ultimate 64-bit on my new laptop with the newly
> > de-registered product key.
> >
> > Am I heading in the right direction now?
> >>
>
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