I now understand TV R&R on my R51 TP, now I'm ready to tackle my
wife's T41, which has IBM Rapid Restore as the back-up utility.
First question, is IBM RR equivalent to TV RR? If not, which is
better? She has all of the ThinkVantage utilities, with the exception
of R&R. She has never done a System Update.
She has not knowingly backed up her system, but there are 2 files
under 'Single File Restore' that were created in 2004 and again in
2005. Each one appears to contain all the files on her system. I can
not right-click these files to see how large they are, but I gotta
believe they are taking a lot of space on her HD.
I would like to delete these files, then connect her system to a USB
HDD and create a current back-up of her system on the USB device using
IBM RR. I don't want to backup the IBM RR files, however, I don't
seem to be able to find a way to delete these files via IBM Rapid
Restore.
Is there a correct way to go about deleting them?
Her system does not have Computer Management in the All Programs
listings. I was trying to get to Disk Management. Is there another
way to get there?
On Oct 6, 6:36*pm, Teflon <spambaitmeis...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I now understand TV R&R on my R51 TP, now I'm ready to tackle my
> wife's T41, which has IBM Rapid Restore as the back-up utility.
>
Sorry, I forgot to mention that the machine has XP Pro, SP3 and a
30GB HD.
Trying to free up some HD real estate for her, and save her the
anguish of restoring from scratch when the HD fails, and it will fail.
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On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 18:40:55 -0700 (PDT), Teflon
<spambaitmeister@gmail.com> wrote in
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>I now understand TV R&R on my R51 TP, now I'm ready to tackle my
>wife's T41, which has IBM Rapid Restore as the back-up utility.
Good on both counts.
>First question, is IBM RR equivalent to TV RR? If not, which is
>better?
Rescue and Recovery replaced Rapid Restore Ultra and is preferred.
Information:
<http://www.pc.ibm.com/us/think/thinkvantagetech/rescuerecovery.html>
Download:
<http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?sitestyle=lenovo&lndocid=MIGR-70034>
Cumulative Fix (see list of Supported Systems):
<http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?sitestyle=lenovo&lndocid=MIGR-71729>
>She has all of the ThinkVantage utilities, with the exception
>of R&R. She has never done a System Update.
Not good. System Update is just as important as installing all
Microsoft security fixes. Do that first. Then check with:
<http://www.belarc.com/free_download.html>
<http://secunia.com/vulnerability_scanning/personal/>
Then manually uninstall Rapid Restore Ultra, and download, install and
patch Rescue and Recovery.
>She has not knowingly backed up her system, but there are 2 files
>under 'Single File Restore' that were created in 2004 and again in
>2005. Each one appears to contain all the files on her system. I can
>not right-click these files to see how large they are, but I gotta
>believe they are taking a lot of space on her HD.
>
>... the machine has XP Pro, SP3 and a
>30GB HD.
>
>Trying to free up some HD real estate for her, and save her the
>anguish of restoring from scratch when the HD fails, and it will fail.
Not necessarily -- hard disk drives are very reliable -- but it still
makes sense to be protected, and to use Drive Fitness Test from time to
time: <http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/download.htm#DFT>
>I would like to delete these files, then connect her system to a USB
>HDD and create a current back-up of her system on the USB device using
>IBM RR. I don't want to backup the IBM RR files, however, I don't
>seem to be able to find a way to delete these files via IBM Rapid
>Restore.
>
>Is there a correct way to go about deleting them?
Use this procedure:
<http://doe.k12.hi.us/technology/ctci/removingbackupfiles.pdf>
Or just uninstall Rapid Restore Ultra.
>Her system does not have Computer Management in the All Programs
>listings. I was trying to get to Disk Management. Is there another
>way to get there?
Right-click on My Computer, and left-click on Manage in the pop-up menu.
Or Run "compmgmt.msc".
>Thanks for all your advice.
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> >I would like to delete these files, then connect her system to a USB
> >HDD and create a current back-up of her system on the USB device using
> >IBM RR. *I don't want to backup the IBM RR files, however, I don't
> >seem to be able to find a way to delete these files via IBM Rapid
> >Restore.
>
> >Is there a correct way to go about deleting them?
>
> Use this procedure:
> <http://doe.k12.hi.us/technology/ctci/removingbackupfiles.pdf>
> Or just uninstall Rapid Restore Ultra.
Neither option worked, mainly, because Rapid Restore Ultra does not
seem to be installed. It is not listed in Add/Remove Programs, so I
apparently can't uninstall that which is not installed. It may have
gotten uninstalled by MSFT's Live maintenance offering, which she had
for several years.
There is still a shortcut in Access IBM that brings up the first RR
Ultra screen, but none of the buttons are active. BTW, is Access IBM
still viable? Can not find anything regarding RR Ultra via Search,
other than the Single File Restore folder.
So, what is the next step for getting the Single File Restore folder
deleted? None of the Delete, etc. options work, of course, since I
believe it is labeled as a System Folder.
> >Her system does not have Computer Management in the All Programs
> >listings. *I was trying to get to Disk Management. *Is there another
> >way to get there?
>
> Right-click on My Computer, and left-click on Manage in the pop-up menu.
> Or Run "compmgmt.msc".
>
That worked. Disk Management shows a hidden IBM Service partition
(E is occupying 9.5GB of the HDD. Isn't that a little excessive? I
used Marcium Reflect to make a copy of it, plus C: on an external
HDD. Could I now just delete that Service partition? If so, how do I
get make that 9.5GB to be reallocated to the C: partition?
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On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:26:12 -0700 (PDT), Teflon
<spambaitmeister@gmail.com> wrote in
<41b1a97e-7024-458f-a2c0-9ffccee640cd@b25g2000prb.googlegroups.com>:
>> >I would like to delete these files, then connect her system to a USB
>> >HDD and create a current back-up of her system on the USB device using
>> >IBM RR. *I don't want to backup the IBM RR files, however, I don't
>> >seem to be able to find a way to delete these files via IBM Rapid
>> >Restore.
>>
>> >Is there a correct way to go about deleting them?
>>
>> Use this procedure:
>> <http://doe.k12.hi.us/technology/ctci/removingbackupfiles.pdf>
>> Or just uninstall Rapid Restore Ultra.
>
>Neither option worked, mainly, because Rapid Restore Ultra does not
>seem to be installed. It is not listed in Add/Remove Programs, so I
>apparently can't uninstall that which is not installed. It may have
>gotten uninstalled by MSFT's Live maintenance offering, which she had
>for several years.
Try reinstall and then uninstall.
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On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:32:58 -0700 (PDT), Teflon
<spambaitmeister@gmail.com> wrote in
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>> >Her system does not have Computer Management in the All Programs
>> >listings. *I was trying to get to Disk Management. *Is there another
>> >way to get there?
>>
>> Right-click on My Computer, and left-click on Manage in the pop-up menu.
>> Or Run "compmgmt.msc".
>
>That worked. Disk Management shows a hidden IBM Service partition
>(E is occupying 9.5GB of the HDD. Isn't that a little excessive?
A little -- I think it's 5 GB on the ThinkPad I'm using at the moment.
>I
>used Marcium Reflect to make a copy of it, plus C: on an external
>HDD. Could I now just delete that Service partition?
Yes, but I wouldn't advise it, unless you're *sure* Marcium Reflect can
properly restore it. I'd use the official method of backup instead.
>If so, how do I
>get make that 9.5GB to be reallocated to the C: partition?
You'll need something like Paragon Partition Manager.
Do you ever say thanks, or do you just demand answers?
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On Oct 20, 1:32*pm, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> [Follow-up set to comp.sys.laptops.thinkpad]
> On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:32:58 -0700 (PDT), Teflon
> <spambaitmeis...@gmail.com> wrote in
> <072125db-8df1-45cc-89a5-2c712b69d...@i12g2000prg.googlegroups.com>:
>
> >> >Her system does not have Computer Management in the All Programs
> >> >listings. *I was trying to get to Disk Management. *Is there another
> >> >way to get there?
>
> >> Right-click on My Computer, and left-click on Manage in the pop-up menu.
> >> Or Run "compmgmt.msc".
>
> >That worked. *Disk Management shows a hidden IBM Service partition
> >(E is occupying 9.5GB of the HDD. *Isn't that a little excessive? *
>
> A little -- I think it's 5 GB on the ThinkPad I'm using at the moment.
>
> >I
> >used Marcium Reflect to make a copy of it, plus C: on an external
> >HDD. *Could I now just delete that Service partition?
>
> Yes, but I wouldn't advise it, unless you're *sure* Marcium Reflect can
> properly restore it. *I'd use the official method of backup instead.
>
> >If so, how do I
> >get make that 9.5GB to be reallocated to the C: partition?
>
> You'll need something like Paragon Partition Manager.
>
> Do you ever say thanks, or do you just demand answers?
>
Sorry about that John. Did not realize my e-communications were
coming off as demanding. After having ******* up enough things in the
past 71 years, by not doing the proper due diligence, I guess I do ask
a lot of questions. Just trying to lessen the possibility of my
screwing up yet something else.
Of course I appreciate your help, thought I had expressed that early
on. Thanks again.
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On Oct 20, 1:28*pm, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> [Follow-up set to comp.sys.laptops.thinkpad]
> On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:26:12 -0700 (PDT), Teflon
> <spambaitmeis...@gmail.com> wrote in
> <41b1a97e-7024-458f-a2c0-9ffccee64...@b25g2000prb.googlegroups.com>:
>
>
>
> >> >I would like to delete these files, then connect her system to a USB
> >> >HDD and create a current back-up of her system on the USB device using
> >> >IBM RR. *I don't want to backup the IBM RR files, however, I don't
> >> >seem to be able to find a way to delete these files via IBM Rapid
> >> >Restore.
>
> >> >Is there a correct way to go about deleting them?
>
> >> Use this procedure:
> >> <http://doe.k12.hi.us/technology/ctci/removingbackupfiles.pdf>
> >> Or just uninstall Rapid Restore Ultra.
>
> >Neither option worked, mainly, because Rapid Restore Ultra does not
> >seem to be installed. *It is not listed in Add/Remove Programs, so I
> >apparently can't uninstall that which is not installed. *It may have
> >gotten uninstalled by MSFT's Live maintenance offering, which she had
> >for several years.
>
> Try reinstall and then uninstall.
Thanks.
I thought of doing that, but have no idea where to find a copy of that
old version of IBM RR to reinstall. Perhaps you can point me in the
right direction.
Tried searching the Lenovo site, but all I found was the latest
version of TV R&R, which you had already pointed me to. I assumed
that would not work to get rid of those old IBM RR backup files.
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On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 06:18:41 -0700 (PDT), Teflon
<spambaitmeister@gmail.com> wrote in
<46b968b0-0505-4136-be11-250365ab0963@y28g2000prd.googlegroups.com>:
>On Oct 20, 1:28*pm, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>> Try reinstall and then uninstall.
>
>Thanks.
>
>I thought of doing that, but have no idea where to find a copy of that
>old version of IBM RR to reinstall. Perhaps you can point me in the
>right direction.
It should still be available in the preinstalled software section.
In the T41, it's in the \SWTOOLS tree.
It should also be in the hidden restore partition.
>Tried searching the Lenovo site, but all I found was the latest
>version of TV R&R, which you had already pointed me to. I assumed
>that would not work to get rid of those old IBM RR backup files.
Assumptions, the mother of all screwups.
Try
<http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-54504>
>Google wasn't any help either.
That's how I found the above.
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