On Oct 21, 6:48*am, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
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> On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 06:18:41 -0700 (PDT), Teflon
> <spambaitmeis...@gmail.com> wrote in
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> >On Oct 20, 1:28*pm, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> >> Try reinstall and then uninstall.
>
> >Thanks.
>
> >I thought of doing that, but have no idea where to find a copy of that
> >old version of IBM RR to reinstall. *Perhaps you can point me in the
> >right direction.
>
> It should still be available in the preinstalled software section.
> In the T41, it's in the \SWTOOLS tree.
> It should also be in the hidden restore partition.
I thought I had to use RR to access that partition? Will look in
SWTOOLS and see what I find. Thanks for the pointer.
>
> >Tried searching the Lenovo site, but all I found was the latest
> >version of TV R&R, which you had already pointed me to. *I assumed
> >that would not work to get rid of those old IBM RR backup files.
>
> Assumptions, the mother of all screwups.
Ain't it the truth.
> Try
> <http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-5....>
>
> >Google wasn't any help either.
>
> That's how I found the above.
I've found with Google, it also helps to know what one is looking for.
Thanks again, John.
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On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 08:28:57 -0700 (PDT), Teflon
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>On Oct 21, 6:48*am, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>> It should still be available in the preinstalled software section.
>> In the T41, it's in the \SWTOOLS tree.
>> It should also be in the hidden restore partition.
>
>I thought I had to use RR to access that partition? Will look in
>SWTOOLS and see what I find. Thanks for the pointer.
The hidden partition is what holds the Predesktop Area,
accessed with the special button when booting.
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On Oct 21, 8:41*am, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
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> On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 08:28:57 -0700 (PDT), Teflon
> <spambaitmeis...@gmail.com> wrote in
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> >On Oct 21, 6:48*am, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> >> It should still be available in the preinstalled software section.
> >> In the T41, it's in the \SWTOOLS tree.
> >> It should also be in the hidden restore partition.
>
> >I thought I had to use RR to access that partition? *Will look in
> >SWTOOLS and see what I find. *Thanks for the pointer.
Did a Search of all System / Hidden / etc. files and did not find
SWTOOLS. Maybe that was the wrong way to find \SWTOOLS.
>
> The hidden partition is what holds the Predesktop Area,
> accessed with the special button when booting.
I tried early on, and I seem to recall that the sub-options for the
several of the main options were grayed out. Tried it again, HELP was
not active, selected UTILITIES, then Restore Backups, it booted into a
DOS-based Restore program that showed the two Backup files as Restore
options, but I did not see anything there that would allow me to
delete those files, so I got out of there.
Curious, could I boot into DOS and delete those files?
Interestingly, I selected the 'Create Diagnostic Disks' option, and it
took me through creating 5 floppy disks, even thought this machine
does not have a floppy drive. Guess the utility versions in the
Predesktop Area are also a little old.
Sorry to be such a bother. Thanks for sticking with me.
>
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> > >Tried searching the Lenovo site, but all I found was the latest
> > >version of TV R&R, which you had already pointed me to. *I assumed
> > >that would not work to get rid of those old IBM RR backup files.
>
> > Assumptions, the mother of all screwups.
>
> Ain't it the truth.
>
> > Try
> > <http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-5...>
OK, I had found and read that User's Manual before I started asking
these question, but it unfortunately did not have any advice on how to
get rid of these files when RR isn't installed, so here I am.
I also checked the available software downloads for this T41 model,
but did not see any old versions of IBM Rapid Restore listed. The
only RR listed was the current 4.21 version. I have no idea what the
version # was for the utility that came on this machine, but it's got
to be older than V4.21. Do you think that version would recognize and
delete those files?
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On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:01:00 -0700 (PDT), Teflon
<spambaitmeister@gmail.com> wrote in
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>On Oct 21, 8:41*am, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>> The hidden partition is what holds the Predesktop Area,
>> accessed with the special button when booting.
>
>I tried early on, and I seem to recall that the sub-options for the
>several of the main options were grayed out. Tried it again, HELP was
>not active, selected UTILITIES, then Restore Backups, it booted into a
>DOS-based Restore program that showed the two Backup files as Restore
>options, but I did not see anything there that would allow me to
>delete those files, so I got out of there.
>
>Curious, could I boot into DOS and delete those files?
Not easily.
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On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 11:33:21 -0700 (PDT), Teflon
<spambaitmeister@gmail.com> wrote in
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>> > >Tried searching the Lenovo site, but all I found was the latest
>> > >version of TV R&R, which you had already pointed me to. *I assumed
>> > >that would not work to get rid of those old IBM RR backup files.
>>
>> > Assumptions, the mother of all screwups.
>>
>> Ain't it the truth.
>>
>> > Try
>> > <http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=MIGR-5...>
>
>OK, I had found and read that User's Manual before I started asking
>these question, but it unfortunately did not have any advice on how to
>get rid of these files when RR isn't installed, so here I am.
>
>I also checked the available software downloads for this T41 model,
>but did not see any old versions of IBM Rapid Restore listed. The
>only RR listed was the current 4.21 version. I have no idea what the
>version # was for the utility that came on this machine, but it's got
>to be older than V4.21. Do you think that version would recognize and
>delete those files?
Install the current version of Rescue and Recovery.
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> Install the current version of Rescue and Recovery.
>
Downloaded and tried to install RRv4.21, but could not, it said a
previous version was still installed. Not in Add/Remove Program list,
not in Program Files. Did another Search for IBM Rapid Restore Ultra,
but nada. Have no idea where to look.
Went to DOS, found the \SWTOOLS directory, bore down to the \apps
\rnr42en directory. The files in that directory appear to be those of
Rapid Restore, with tvtrnr42_1016.exe possibly being the launch file.
Not wanting to screw up the registry, I left all of that alone and
used Disk Management to remove the Service Partition then Partition
Magic to add that unallocated space to the C: partition. That went
well and the system is perking right along, so all is fine, with the
exception of a nag screen on start-up, informing me that R&R could not
find the Service Partition, and then there's that Single File Recover
System folder with its two backup files still listed under My
Computer.
I can remove R&R from the registry with Reg Seeker, which should solve
the nag screen problem and hopefully allow me to reinstall R&R, but
there's still that System folder issue. Apparently, it was not in the
Service partition, since deleting it did not cause them to go away.
Still open to advice, suggestions and observations. Hope you're still
with me. Thanks.
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On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:56:02 -0700 (PDT), Teflon
<spambaitmeister@gmail.com> wrote in
<77d02d32-800a-4a75-bb7f-7a60cd426dba@13g2000prl.googlegroups.com>:
>> Install the current version of Rescue and Recovery.
>
>Downloaded and tried to install RRv4.21, but could not, it said a
>previous version was still installed. Not in Add/Remove Program list,
>not in Program Files. Did another Search for IBM Rapid Restore Ultra,
>but nada. Have no idea where to look.
>
>Went to DOS, found the \SWTOOLS directory, bore down to the \apps
>\rnr42en directory. The files in that directory appear to be those of
>Rapid Restore, with tvtrnr42_1016.exe possibly being the launch file.
That's Rescue and Recovery 3.10.0022.00
Start > Run > "C:\swtools\apps\rnr42en" > press [Enter]
See the .txt file:
Consideration 8
Rapid Restore Ultra 3.0 and prior versions are not compatible with
the Rescue and Recovery program. If you install the Rescue and
Recovery program and previous versions of Rapid Restore Ultra are
installed, then the Rescue and Recovery program prompts you to
uninstall any previous versions of Rapid Restore Ultra including all
backups made by prior versions of the program during installation of
the Rescue and Recovery program.
>Not wanting to screw up the registry, I left all of that alone and
>used Disk Management to remove the Service Partition then Partition
>Magic to add that unallocated space to the C: partition.
As I've noted before, I think that's a bad idea.
>I can remove R&R from the registry with Reg Seeker, which should solve
>the nag screen problem and hopefully allow me to reinstall R&R, but
>there's still that System folder issue. Apparently, it was not in the
>Service partition, since deleting it did not cause them to go away.
>
>Still open to advice, suggestions and observations. Hope you're still
>with me. Thanks.
Since you're continuing to thrash around,
I'm not going to help further.
John Navas wrote:
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> On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:56:02 -0700 (PDT), Teflon
> <spambaitmeister@gmail.com> wrote in
> <77d02d32-800a-4a75-bb7f-7a60cd426dba@13g2000prl.googlegroups.com>:
>
>>> Install the current version of Rescue and Recovery.
>> Downloaded and tried to install RRv4.21, but could not, it said a
>> previous version was still installed. Not in Add/Remove Program list,
>> not in Program Files. Did another Search for IBM Rapid Restore Ultra,
>> but nada. Have no idea where to look.
>>
>> Went to DOS, found the \SWTOOLS directory, bore down to the \apps
>> \rnr42en directory. The files in that directory appear to be those of
>> Rapid Restore, with tvtrnr42_1016.exe possibly being the launch file.
>
> That's Rescue and Recovery 3.10.0022.00
> Start > Run > "C:\swtools\apps\rnr42en" > press [Enter]
> See the .txt file:
>
> Consideration 8
> Rapid Restore Ultra 3.0 and prior versions are not compatible with
> the Rescue and Recovery program. If you install the Rescue and
> Recovery program and previous versions of Rapid Restore Ultra are
> installed, then the Rescue and Recovery program prompts you to
> uninstall any previous versions of Rapid Restore Ultra including all
> backups made by prior versions of the program during installation of
> the Rescue and Recovery program.
>
>> Not wanting to screw up the registry, I left all of that alone and
>> used Disk Management to remove the Service Partition then Partition
>> Magic to add that unallocated space to the C: partition.
>
> As I've noted before, I think that's a bad idea.
>
>> I can remove R&R from the registry with Reg Seeker, which should solve
>> the nag screen problem and hopefully allow me to reinstall R&R, but
>> there's still that System folder issue. Apparently, it was not in the
>> Service partition, since deleting it did not cause them to go away.
>>
>> Still open to advice, suggestions and observations. Hope you're still
>> with me. Thanks.
>
> Since you're continuing to thrash around,
> I'm not going to help further.
>
> Good luck,
> John
There's always Acronis.... as previously mentioned.
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On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:57:26 -0400, News <News@Groups.Name> wrote in
<Ba6dnRyjZfO8En3XnZ2dnUVZ_qSdnZ2d@speakeasy.net> :
>John Navas wrote:
>> [Follow-up set to comp.sys.laptops.thinkpad]
>> On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:56:02 -0700 (PDT), Teflon
>> <spambaitmeister@gmail.com> wrote in
>> <77d02d32-800a-4a75-bb7f-7a60cd426dba@13g2000prl.googlegroups.com>:
>>
>>>> Install the current version of Rescue and Recovery.
>>> Downloaded and tried to install RRv4.21, but could not, it said a
>>> previous version was still installed. Not in Add/Remove Program list,
>>> not in Program Files. Did another Search for IBM Rapid Restore Ultra,
>>> but nada. Have no idea where to look.
>>>
>>> Went to DOS, found the \SWTOOLS directory, bore down to the \apps
>>> \rnr42en directory. The files in that directory appear to be those of
>>> Rapid Restore, with tvtrnr42_1016.exe possibly being the launch file.
>>
>> That's Rescue and Recovery 3.10.0022.00
>> Start > Run > "C:\swtools\apps\rnr42en" > press [Enter]
>> See the .txt file:
>>
>> Consideration 8
>> Rapid Restore Ultra 3.0 and prior versions are not compatible with
>> the Rescue and Recovery program. If you install the Rescue and
>> Recovery program and previous versions of Rapid Restore Ultra are
>> installed, then the Rescue and Recovery program prompts you to
>> uninstall any previous versions of Rapid Restore Ultra including all
>> backups made by prior versions of the program during installation of
>> the Rescue and Recovery program.
>>
>>> Not wanting to screw up the registry, I left all of that alone and
>>> used Disk Management to remove the Service Partition then Partition
>>> Magic to add that unallocated space to the C: partition.
>>
>> As I've noted before, I think that's a bad idea.
>>
>>> I can remove R&R from the registry with Reg Seeker, which should solve
>>> the nag screen problem and hopefully allow me to reinstall R&R, but
>>> there's still that System folder issue. Apparently, it was not in the
>>> Service partition, since deleting it did not cause them to go away.
>>>
>>> Still open to advice, suggestions and observations. Hope you're still
>>> with me. Thanks.
>>
>> Since you're continuing to thrash around,
>> I'm not going to help further.
>There's always Acronis.... as previously mentioned.
Irrelevant to the task at hand. Do keep up.
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