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Old 09-22-2009, 05:47 PM
Teflon
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Default Hidden partition?

TP R51

In Disk Management, I see that the 40 GB internal HD has 2
partitions. One is labeled System C:, which I can see in Windows
Explorer, and the other is labeled Service V001, which is hidden in
WE.

The System C: partition is formatted NTFS with a capacity of 32.63GB.
The Service V001 hidden partition is fromatted FAT32 (EISA
Configuration) with a capacity of 4.62GB.

What is this hidden partition, what's in it, how did it get there and
do I need to keep it?

Could I create an image of it then delete it?

If I deleted it, would that get the 5GB it's occupying added to the C:
partition? If not, how would I do that?

If I cloned C:, would that hidden partition get cloned also?

Thanks.
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Old 09-22-2009, 06:00 PM
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[Follow-up set to comp.sys.laptops.thinkpad]
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 09:47:41 -0700 (PDT), Teflon
<spambaitmeister@gmail.com> wrote in
<d5b4808b-5b47-4613-b293-84fff4f333e5@y10g2000prg.googlegroups.com>:

>TP R51
>
>In Disk Management, I see that the 40 GB internal HD has 2
>partitions. One is labeled System C:, which I can see in Windows
>Explorer, and the other is labeled Service V001, which is hidden in
>WE.
>
>The System C: partition is formatted NTFS with a capacity of 32.63GB.
>The Service V001 hidden partition is fromatted FAT32 (EISA
>Configuration) with a capacity of 4.62GB.
>
>What is this hidden partition, what's in it, how did it get there and
>do I need to keep it?


It's restore and diagnostics, chiefly used to restore the system to the
initial factory configuration.

>Could I create an image of it then delete it?


Yes.

>If I deleted it, would that get the 5GB it's occupying added to the C:
>partition? If not, how would I do that?


You would need repartitioning software, like Partition Magic.

>If I cloned C:, would that hidden partition get cloned also?


Depends on the software, but probably not.

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Old 09-23-2009, 01:23 AM
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On Sep 22, 12:00*pm, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
> [Follow-up set to comp.sys.laptops.thinkpad]
> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 09:47:41 -0700 (PDT), Teflon
> <spambaitmeis...@gmail.com> wrote in
> <d5b4808b-5b47-4613-b293-84fff4f33...@y10g2000prg.googlegroups.com>:
>
> >TP R51

>
> >In Disk Management, I see that the 40 GB internal HD has 2
> >partitions. *One is labeled System C:, which I can see in Windows
> >Explorer, and the other is labeled Service V001, which is hidden in
> >WE.

>
> >The System C: partition is formatted NTFS with a capacity of 32.63GB.
> >The Service V001 hidden partition is fromatted FAT32 (EISA
> >Configuration) with a capacity of 4.62GB.

>
> >What is this hidden partition, what's in it, how did it get there and
> >do I need to keep it?

>
> It's restore and diagnostics, chiefly used to restore the system to the
> initial factory configuration.
>
> >Could I create an image of it then delete it?

>
> Yes.
>
> >If I deleted it, would that get the 5GB it's occupying added to the C:
> >partition? *If not, how would I do that?

>
> You would need repartitioning software, like Partition Magic.
>
> >If I cloned C:, would that hidden partition get cloned also?

>
> Depends on the software, but probably not.
>
> --
> Best regards, * *You are cordially invited to participate in the
> John * * * * * * official ThinkPad group news:comp.sys.laptops.thinkpad


When I clone my Dell using EaseUs or Aconis True Image the entire
drive is copied including the Dell partition.

bob_v
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Old 09-23-2009, 01:43 AM
John Navas
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[Follow-up set to comp.sys.laptops.thinkpad]
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:23:24 -0700 (PDT), Bob Villa
<pheeh.zero@gmail.com> wrote in
<a7ed8bac-8ffd-4fe9-83e9-bdfa9991ea52@12g2000pri.googlegroups.com>:

>On Sep 22, 12:00*pm, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>> [Follow-up set to comp.sys.laptops.thinkpad]
>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 09:47:41 -0700 (PDT), Teflon
>> <spambaitmeis...@gmail.com> wrote in
>> <d5b4808b-5b47-4613-b293-84fff4f33...@y10g2000prg.googlegroups.com>:


>> >If I cloned C:, would that hidden partition get cloned also?

>>
>> Depends on the software, but probably not.
>>
>> --
>> Best regards, * *You are cordially invited to participate in the
>> John * * * * * * official ThinkPad group news:comp.sys.laptops.thinkpad

>
>When I clone my Dell using EaseUs or Aconis True Image the entire
>drive is copied including the Dell partition.


What does that have to do with Lenovo ThinkPads?

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Old 09-23-2009, 02:17 AM
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John Navas wrote:
> [Follow-up set to comp.sys.laptops.thinkpad]
> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:23:24 -0700 (PDT), Bob Villa
> <pheeh.zero@gmail.com> wrote in
> <a7ed8bac-8ffd-4fe9-83e9-bdfa9991ea52@12g2000pri.googlegroups.com>:
>
>> On Sep 22, 12:00 pm, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>>> [Follow-up set to comp.sys.laptops.thinkpad]
>>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 09:47:41 -0700 (PDT), Teflon
>>> <spambaitmeis...@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> <d5b4808b-5b47-4613-b293-84fff4f33...@y10g2000prg.googlegroups.com>:

>
>>>> If I cloned C:, would that hidden partition get cloned also?
>>> Depends on the software, but probably not.

>> When I clone my Dell using EaseUs or Aconis True Image the entire
>> drive is copied including the Dell partition.

>
> What does that have to do with Lenovo ThinkPads?
>


Acronis True Image produces a clone of the IBM Service partition on any
Thinkpad on which I've used it.
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Old 09-23-2009, 12:12 PM
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aaaah...maybe YOUR statement!

>> Depends on the software, but probably not.


bob_v
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Old 09-23-2009, 02:54 PM
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[Follow-up set to comp.sys.laptops.thinkpad]
On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:17:44 -0400, News <News@Groups.Name> wrote in
<VJadnS1jeobf6iTXnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d@speakeasy.net> :

>John Navas wrote:
>> [Follow-up set to comp.sys.laptops.thinkpad]
>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:23:24 -0700 (PDT), Bob Villa
>> <pheeh.zero@gmail.com> wrote in
>> <a7ed8bac-8ffd-4fe9-83e9-bdfa9991ea52@12g2000pri.googlegroups.com>:
>>
>>> On Sep 22, 12:00 pm, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>>>> [Follow-up set to comp.sys.laptops.thinkpad]
>>>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 09:47:41 -0700 (PDT), Teflon
>>>> <spambaitmeis...@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>> <d5b4808b-5b47-4613-b293-84fff4f33...@y10g2000prg.googlegroups.com>:

>>
>>>>> If I cloned C:, would that hidden partition get cloned also?
>>>> Depends on the software, but probably not.
>>> When I clone my Dell using EaseUs or Aconis True Image the entire
>>> drive is copied including the Dell partition.

>>
>> What does that have to do with Lenovo ThinkPads?

>
>Acronis True Image produces a clone of the IBM Service partition on any
>Thinkpad on which I've used it.


Not on my T30. Admittedly that was some years ago. Perhaps it's better
now. But I still personally wouldn't trust it, especially since
ThinkVantage Rescue and Recovery does such a good job, is free, and
supported by Lenovo.

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Old 09-23-2009, 03:06 PM
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John Navas wrote:
> [Follow-up set to comp.sys.laptops.thinkpad]
> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:17:44 -0400, News <News@Groups.Name> wrote in
> <VJadnS1jeobf6iTXnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d@speakeasy.net> :
>
>> John Navas wrote:
>>> [Follow-up set to comp.sys.laptops.thinkpad]
>>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:23:24 -0700 (PDT), Bob Villa
>>> <pheeh.zero@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> <a7ed8bac-8ffd-4fe9-83e9-bdfa9991ea52@12g2000pri.googlegroups.com>:
>>>
>>>> On Sep 22, 12:00 pm, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>>>>> [Follow-up set to comp.sys.laptops.thinkpad]
>>>>> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 09:47:41 -0700 (PDT), Teflon
>>>>> <spambaitmeis...@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>> <d5b4808b-5b47-4613-b293-84fff4f33...@y10g2000prg.googlegroups.com>:
>>>>>> If I cloned C:, would that hidden partition get cloned also?
>>>>> Depends on the software, but probably not.
>>>> When I clone my Dell using EaseUs or Aconis True Image the entire
>>>> drive is copied including the Dell partition.
>>> What does that have to do with Lenovo ThinkPads?

>> Acronis True Image produces a clone of the IBM Service partition on any
>> Thinkpad on which I've used it.

>
> Not on my T30. Admittedly that was some years ago. Perhaps it's better
> now. But I still personally wouldn't trust it, especially since
> ThinkVantage Rescue and Recovery does such a good job, is free, and
> supported by Lenovo.
>


I have never had any success whatsoever with RR and its predecessors.

YMMV.
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Old 09-23-2009, 07:03 PM
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[Follow-up set to comp.sys.laptops.thinkpad]
On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:06:27 -0400, News <News@Group.Name> wrote in
<G96dncO86If6tifXnZ2dnUVZ_jJi4p2d@speakeasy.net> :

>John Navas wrote:


>> Not on my T30. Admittedly that was some years ago. Perhaps it's better
>> now. But I still personally wouldn't trust it, especially since
>> ThinkVantage Rescue and Recovery does such a good job, is free, and
>> supported by Lenovo.

>
>I have never had any success whatsoever with RR and its predecessors.
>
>YMMV.


It does -- never had a problem with TR&R (as I have with so many other
programs, including ATI) -- perhaps because I've been using the latest
TR&R version, and carefully following directions.

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Old 09-23-2009, 07:50 PM
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John Navas wrote:
> [Follow-up set to comp.sys.laptops.thinkpad]
> On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:06:27 -0400, News <News@Group.Name> wrote in
> <G96dncO86If6tifXnZ2dnUVZ_jJi4p2d@speakeasy.net> :
>
>> John Navas wrote:

>
>>> Not on my T30. Admittedly that was some years ago. Perhaps it's better
>>> now. But I still personally wouldn't trust it, especially since
>>> ThinkVantage Rescue and Recovery does such a good job, is free, and
>>> supported by Lenovo.

>> I have never had any success whatsoever with RR and its predecessors.
>>
>> YMMV.

>
> It does



You're right, it does. Whether or not you read and follow instructions,
ATI being far more intuitive to use.
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