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On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 09:10:28 -0400, News <News@Group.Name> wrote in
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>John Navas wrote:
>>> You're right, it does. Whether or not you read and follow instructions,
>>> ATI being far more intuitive to use.
>>
>> To you. Not to me. Not to my clients.
>
>I see. R&R is an annuity for you.
It is. Happy clients keep coming back. Unhappy clients don't.
Which is why I use and recommend TR&R.
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On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 09:11:42 -0400, News <News@Group.Name> wrote in
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>John Navas wrote:
>> TR&R is a full-blown backup and restore program, not just an imaging
>> program, that can restore an entire disk or just individual files.
>> It supports both full and incremental backups, automated operation, and
>> much more.
>> ATI is a straightforward disk imaging program. TR&R is more efficient
>> for regular backups.
>> System Restore (restore points) just protect certain disk areas and
>> allow you to roll them back to an earlier state. It can be useful, but
>> is much less capable than the other tools.
>If you want to be sure a backup will work reliably and as intended, disk
>imaging is the ONLY way to go.
>
>Period.
>
>Full stop.
Simply not true.
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On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 06:03:45 -0700 (PDT), Teflon
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>On Sep 24, 3:41*pm, John Navas <spamfilt...@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>> [Follow-up set to comp.sys.laptops.thinkpad]
>>
>> The System Update service was restored by early June, has worked since
>> then, and can be used for updates to ThinkPads apps, including TR&R.
>> <http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/TVSU-UPDATE.html>
>
>OK John, got it installed, updated my system and did several
>rechecks. There seems to be a problem with a 'Critical' patch for
>R&R.
>
>Installed updates shows that 'R&R Critical Patch for Windows Update
>(KB917422)' as being installed, yet every time I search for updates,
>there it is again, demanding to be installed. Seems to be a problem
>someplace.
>
>Is it my system, or is the problem on Lenovo's end?
My guess(tm) is your system, since I don't see that problem on my own
system or any of the systems I administer.
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On Sep 26, 9:15*am, Not Me <Not...@Home.Base> wrote:
> Bob Villa wrote:
> >> If you want to be sure a backup will work reliably and as intended, disk
> > imaging is the ONLY way to go.
>
> > Period.
>
> > Full stop.
>
> > So...if I clone to a USB drive-1 and drive 0 fails...I don't have a
> > reliable replacement?
> > (Is "Full Stop" an oxy-moron?)
>
> > bob_v
>
> Imaging is cloning.
>
> Boot from the USB or replace the failed drive with the imaged drive.
Simply put...cloning is an exact copy sector for sector of the source
drive...imaging is not!
Bob Villa wrote:
> On Sep 26, 9:15 am, Not Me <Not...@Home.Base> wrote:
>> Bob Villa wrote:
>>>> If you want to be sure a backup will work reliably and as intended, disk
>>> imaging is the ONLY way to go.
>>> Period.
>>> Full stop.
>>> So...if I clone to a USB drive-1 and drive 0 fails...I don't have a
>>> reliable replacement?
>>> (Is "Full Stop" an oxy-moron?)
>>> bob_v
>> Imaging is cloning.
>>
>> Boot from the USB or replace the failed drive with the imaged drive.
>
> Simply put...cloning is an exact copy sector for sector of the source
> drive...imaging is not!
>
> bob_v
John Navas wrote:
> [Follow-up set to comp.sys.laptops.thinkpad]
> On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 09:10:28 -0400, News <News@Group.Name> wrote in
> <5oydnchIXY_XXCHXnZ2dnUVZ_q2dnZ2d@speakeasy.net> :
>
>> John Navas wrote:
>
>>>> You're right, it does. Whether or not you read and follow instructions,
>>>> ATI being far more intuitive to use.
>>> To you. Not to me. Not to my clients.
>> I see. R&R is an annuity for you.
>
> It is. Happy clients keep coming back. Unhappy clients don't.
> Which is why I use and recommend TR&R.
>
Pooched clients have no immediate choice, do they?
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On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:19:56 -0400, Not Me <Not.Me@Home.Base> wrote in
<ZOadne-Ulc-5oiPXnZ2dnUVZ_hFi4p2d@speakeasy.net>:
>John Navas wrote:
>> [Follow-up set to comp.sys.laptops.thinkpad]
>> On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 09:10:28 -0400, News <News@Group.Name> wrote in
>> <5oydnchIXY_XXCHXnZ2dnUVZ_q2dnZ2d@speakeasy.net> :
>>
>>> John Navas wrote:
>>
>>>>> You're right, it does. Whether or not you read and follow instructions,
>>>>> ATI being far more intuitive to use.
>>>> To you. Not to me. Not to my clients.
>>> I see. R&R is an annuity for you.
>>
>> It is. Happy clients keep coming back. Unhappy clients don't.
>> Which is why I use and recommend TR&R.
>
>Pooched clients have no immediate choice, do they?
Of course they do. You must not understand the business any better than
you understand backup software.
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John Navas wrote:
> [Follow-up set to comp.sys.laptops.thinkpad]
> On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:19:56 -0400, Not Me <Not.Me@Home.Base> wrote in
> <ZOadne-Ulc-5oiPXnZ2dnUVZ_hFi4p2d@speakeasy.net>:
>
>> John Navas wrote:
>>> [Follow-up set to comp.sys.laptops.thinkpad]
>>> On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 09:10:28 -0400, News <News@Group.Name> wrote in
>>> <5oydnchIXY_XXCHXnZ2dnUVZ_q2dnZ2d@speakeasy.net> :
>>>
>>>> John Navas wrote:
>>>>>> You're right, it does. Whether or not you read and follow instructions,
>>>>>> ATI being far more intuitive to use.
>>>>> To you. Not to me. Not to my clients.
>>>> I see. R&R is an annuity for you.
>>> It is. Happy clients keep coming back. Unhappy clients don't.
>>> Which is why I use and recommend TR&R.
>> Pooched clients have no immediate choice, do they?
>
> Of course they do. You must not understand the business any better than
> you understand backup software.
>
Understand both well enough to wipe R&R off any Thinkpad I've owned.
And you understand annuities well enough to leave it on your erstwhile
clients'.
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On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 17:27:34 -0400, Not Me <Not.Me@Home.Base> wrote in
<f4KdncXtRZhbRSLXnZ2dnUVZ_uCdnZ2d@speakeasy.net> :
>John Navas wrote:
>> [Follow-up set to comp.sys.laptops.thinkpad]
>> On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:19:56 -0400, Not Me <Not.Me@Home.Base> wrote in
>> <ZOadne-Ulc-5oiPXnZ2dnUVZ_hFi4p2d@speakeasy.net>:
>>
>>> John Navas wrote:
>>>> [Follow-up set to comp.sys.laptops.thinkpad]
>>>> On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 09:10:28 -0400, News <News@Group.Name> wrote in
>>>> <5oydnchIXY_XXCHXnZ2dnUVZ_q2dnZ2d@speakeasy.net> :
>>>>
>>>>> John Navas wrote:
>>>>>>> You're right, it does. Whether or not you read and follow instructions,
>>>>>>> ATI being far more intuitive to use.
>>>>>> To you. Not to me. Not to my clients.
>>>>> I see. R&R is an annuity for you.
>>>> It is. Happy clients keep coming back. Unhappy clients don't.
>>>> Which is why I use and recommend TR&R.
>>> Pooched clients have no immediate choice, do they?
>>
>> Of course they do. You must not understand the business any better than
>> you understand backup software.
>
>Understand both well enough to wipe R&R off any Thinkpad I've owned.
>
>And you understand annuities well enough to leave it on your erstwhile
>clients'.
You have at least mastered silly insults -- I guess that takes up all
your time. Into the twit filter you go.
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