On 2008-08-09, Barry L. Bond <barry@barrycon.cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Don!
>
>> O.K. I also believe that it should have NAT.
>
> Yes, it does.
>
> Okay... catch you up again! :-D So much is happening every day!
> :-O
>
> I ordered my ESP-16 MI 16-Port Serial Hub for next day delivery,
> and it arrived this afternoon. (I wanted to see if by some chance I had
> time to start learning how to use it and see if I could get any serial
> connections hooked up...)
O.K.
> I don't have all my adapters yet. Most of them do not have Ethernet
> cables, not that that is that big of a deal. But, I have a variety of
> adapters (that are here and are still coming) that are RJ-45 to DB9 (male
> and female, DTE and DCE) and DB25 (male and female, DTE and DCE). (I
> actually have a variety of serial connectors, some of all of the above,
> which I had adapters to convert into DB25 DTE.)
>
> The manual gives an Internet address to address it from a web
> browser. I plugged it into the fourth computer port of my D-Link router.
> (The guy at Avocent said it should work there.)
>
> At the moment, I am not successful in communicating with it. But,
> when I log on to the D-Link router, it indicates the MAC address (it
> matches what the device says its MAC address is). So, it appears to be
> powering up, and the D-Link router knows about it! :-)
>
> At the moment, I am not able to access it. But, I have never tried
> to access something that was also to be on my LAN (and NOT on the
> WAN/Internet) that was plugged into one of the ports of my D-Link router!
> (My last one had four computer ports, too.)
No help there, since I have never used one of those.
> I'll continue learning about it, and try to figure it out.
>
> I still have lots of serial devices to check, around the house, when
> I get the serial connections again! :-)
Check them with the loopback connector (pin 2 to pin 3) and you
don't need the computers working to be sure that the terminals work.
[ ... ]
>> Not familiar with "Bacula". If it is for Linux, and is similar
>>to other things which I have been interested in, you have to download and
>>compile a bunch of libraries before you can compile the program itself.
>
> It is a backup system, with network backup. It can be installed in
> Windows and lots of Unix systems. And, yes, there is source code I had
> placed on the Sun, and I had compiled it! But, I hadn't gotten MySQL to
> work, the last time I had a chance to see if I could get it going...
O.K. I use amanda for backup software.
>> Hmm ... what kind of tape drive? Sun has used a lot of them
>>over the years. For an Ultra-30 (assuming that your tape drive is
>>contemporary with the computer) I would expect perhaps either a DAT
>>drive or an Exabyte. (Exabyte will use 8mm tapes like those used in
>>camcorders. But tapes are not interchangeable between all kinds. The
>>8505 drive would read anything older (back to the original Exabyte 2.3
>>GB 8200 and up to about 7GB with the right tapes. Then there are the
>>Mammoth (up to around 40GB with the tapes made for it), and the
>>Mammoth-II (up to around 60 GB native or 150 GB with the drive's
>>built-in compression). You need to do a little work in the
>>/kernel/drv/st.conf file for the Mammoth-II, but the plain Mammoth (also
>>called the 8900) is supported normally. I don't have that much
>>experience with DATs -- except for audio work, not computer backups) so
>>i can't tell you as much about them.
>
> Yes, it is an Exabyte. And, the one tape I have is an Exabyte 8MM
> Data Cartridge, 112m.
>
> It was given to me with the Sun. I purchased a cable on Ebay, and
> one tape! :-D
Hmm ... you haven't told me what Exabyte it is. Let's go for
the easy thing to check. What color is the tape cartridge?
1) Black Older Exabyte up through 8505 -- cartridges for this
should be dirt cheap on eBay -- and you can also use
8mm video tapes with some loss in reliability.
2) White Mammoth -- moderately expensive on eBay, sometimes
real bargains available however.
3) Blue Mammoth-2 -- very expensive most of the time on eBay.
>> There are some differences in the way Solaris 9 is set up, and
>>quite a few in Solaris 10. Most of the stuff in /etc/init.d and in
>>/etc/inetd.conf have been moved to a different program to maintain them,
>>though some still have hooks in /etc/init.d for ease in turning them
>>off. For example, sendmail has the following (in part):
>
> Okay... here is what I decided...
>
> I still have serial devices to check.
With the loopback connector so you don't need anything else
working to check the terminal.
[ ... ]
> I just purchased a QFE card, just now, from Ebay. A "buy it now"
> from weavh, with 100% positive comments. I just paid for it, via Ebay,
> and they'll take it from my checking account.
>
> It is a 501-4837 X1049A SBus Sun Quad FastEthernet Card.
>
> When that arrives, I'll put it in a PCI slot in the Ultra 30.
No you won't! Unfortunately, the 501-4837 is the Sbus version
of the card -- and it won't fit in the Ultra-30. You need one of:
501-4366
501-5406
540-4094
the PCI versions to use in your Ultra-30. What you got can be used in
systems up to the Ultra-2 -- no later machine has the Sbus for it to
plug into.
I believe that I gave you the numbers to look for in an earlier
posting.
> (The
> one network card that is in there is currently the only thing that is in
> the PCI bus in the Sun! The Linux is full, though the next time I power
> it down, I can remove the Cyclades PCI card and have one slot available
> again.)
O.K.
> This way, I'll be able to use the exact same Solaris that I already
> have configured. I have one backup (currently) of my files, mainly for
> the sendmail and configuration.
Just by renaming the hostname.hme0 and hostname.hme1 files to
hostname.hme1 and hostname.hme2 -- once you get the *right* QFE card.
Note that the PCI QFE card has LEDs to verify connectivity for each
port.
> I expect the thing that I'll mostly have to work with that will be
> different is I'll have additional hme ports, and I guess I'll be ignoring
> hme0.
Yes -- and you could make a direct connection to the serial box
from one of those -- but you would have to edit some files to make it
work.
> I will plan on using one for the D-Link router (and cable modem,
> through it), and I'll plan on plugging my ESP-16 MI 16-Port Serial hub
> into another of the ports on it.
>
> (Hmmm... if it is faster, I may benefit from plugging the Linux
> system into a third of the ports... Or perhaps the Linux network stuff
> being in a different PCI slot would be better...)
>
> I have in the past preferred "hard coded" static IP addresses for my
> local network devices, so I'll likely try to set that up as well.
O.K.
> I will appreciate your help, when the card arrives, to help me not do
> anything too stupid. :-D
Unfortunately, it is too late for the first opportunity --
you've already bought the wrong version of the card. You'll see when it
arrives. :-(
>>BTW I keep having the feeling that we've interacted before -- whether on
>> this newsgroup or elsewhere.
>
> Well, looking over printouts of some USENET and emails in my Sun
> folder, here is one from dnichols@d-and-d.com, on Oct 15, 2006, subject
> "Have a new 18.2 GB Sun hard drive, would like to keep the current 4.2 GB
> drive in there..."
>
> :-)
>
> Ah, the new drive I put in it "nearly two years ago", I believe!
>
> Yes, we have. And, actually, I also have that feeling. The only
> other thing I believe I've ever posted or "made myself known" regarding
> the Sun is, I believe when I was opening the Sun to put the new hard drive
> in it, the phillips screw in the back got really messed up! I purchased
> penetrating oil, and that got it! But, I had to really work with it! It
> was so messed up that screwdrivers weren't working any more! :-)
Yes -- I found both of those when looking for other old
articles.
> Do you read or participate in any Linux hardware or other newsgroups?
Not any linux-specific groups -- but rec.crafts.metalworking and
a little in rec.music.makers.squeezebox.
Enjoy,
DoN.
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>> I still have lots of serial devices to check, around the house, when
>> I get the serial connections again! :-)
>
> Check them with the loopback connector (pin 2 to pin 3) and you
>don't need the computers working to be sure that the terminals work.
That's true. I haven't checked more than the one yet, that worked on
the Sun attached to ttyb.
I didn't have one minute yesterday to get to "this stuff". And, I
still went to bed late...
> Hmm ... you haven't told me what Exabyte it is. Let's go for
>the easy thing to check. What color is the tape cartridge?
>
>1) Black Older Exabyte up through 8505 -- cartridges for this
> should be dirt cheap on eBay -- and you can also use
> 8mm video tapes with some loss in reliability.
>
>2) White Mammoth -- moderately expensive on eBay, sometimes
> real bargains available however.
>
>3) Blue Mammoth-2 -- very expensive most of the time on eBay.
Sorry about that! :-O
The tape cartridge is black, with green letters where it says, on the
cartridge, EXATAPE, 8MM DATA CARTRIDGE, 112m, and Exabyte.
>> I just purchased a QFE card, just now, from Ebay. A "buy it now"
>> from weavh, with 100% positive comments. I just paid for it, via Ebay,
>> and they'll take it from my checking account.
>>
>> It is a 501-4837 X1049A SBus Sun Quad FastEthernet Card.
>>
>> When that arrives, I'll put it in a PCI slot in the Ultra 30.
>
> No you won't! Unfortunately, the 501-4837 is the Sbus version
>of the card -- and it won't fit in the Ultra-30. You need one of:
>
> 501-4366
> 501-5406
> 540-4094
>
>the PCI versions to use in your Ultra-30. What you got can be used in
>systems up to the Ultra-2 -- no later machine has the Sbus for it to
>plug into.
>
> I believe that I gave you the numbers to look for in an earlier
>posting.
:-)
Well, first I want to say THANK YOU. Your indicating this, and my
emailing the ebay seller (weavh), and he's replied. He understands
COMPLETELY. And, he is switching it for me!
He mentioned he had the 501-4366 and the 501-5406 and he said he'd
prepare the 501-5406 for me. And, both of these numbers match what you
have, above.
But, actually, I went back to one of the earliest replies you had to
me in this thread, and here is what I saw:
<<>>
That is because you don't *have* a separate card for that Ethernet
port.
If you have a spare PCI slot, you can add another Ethernet card
there, or replace the existing second Ethernet card with a QFE (Quad
Fast Ethernet) card. Look for the following numbers in eBay (assuming
that you have no business paying for replacement hardware):
501-4837
501-5443
501-4302
The first two would probably be the better choices.
<<>>
So, I typed 501-4837 as a result of that!
No problem. Like I said, Jeff, the seller said he had a small house
fire in February and it took a LONG TIME to get back to normal, so he
understood my extra problems right now, dealing with lightning-fried stuff
while working (a job where my code was recently integrated, and I'm the
primary helper on AdaTEST) and trying to deal more with my mother than
I've had to in the past! :-O
Your telling me what you did allowed me to contact him, and the
501-5406 will be what is actually shipped to me! :-)
> Just by renaming the hostname.hme0 and hostname.hme1 files to
>hostname.hme1 and hostname.hme2 -- once you get the *right* QFE card.
>Note that the PCI QFE card has LEDs to verify connectivity for each
>port.
Okay... Actually, hostname.hme1 -- the Linux system, could be left
the same. Or, are you recommending that I also connect the Linux system
to one of these 4 QFE ports?
> Yes -- and you could make a direct connection to the serial box
>from one of those -- but you would have to edit some files to make it
>work.
I AM planning on that! :-O A call to D-Link tech service (since I
am still able to make a free request, since I just recently purchased a
new D-Link router) wasn't much help!
I SUSPECT that I have to configure something in the D-Link router
differently. I've actually never had anything attached to one of the
ports that was LAN use only. The guy at Avocent and this tech support
person that I called right after midnight yesterday/Saturday said it was
possible. But, he wasn't any help whatsoever in helping me figure out
what that was!
I DO want it just attached to now another network port I'll have on
the Sun, where I can just configure it as another IP/ethernet port and not
have the D-Link stuff "in the middle". :-)
I am BEYOND EXHAUSTED. I probably will try disconnecting the D-Link
router from my Linux system -- TEMPORARILY -- and plugging the serial hub
directly into it -- just to see if I can communicate with it.
That will give me a confirmation it's working and perhaps give me a
better idea (seeing it on my web browser) of exactly what configuring a
serial port is all about. I just printed the 96-page manual, and I will
look over that.
I do SUSPECT it's working. The D-Link router showed the MAC address
of it as an "Additional computer" on the LAN. The D-Link router and it
seemed happy and fine talking to each other -- even if I couldn't! :-D
I'm going to bed tonight in time to get 8 hours of sleep before I get
up at 3:30 tomorrow morning! Every movement is a strain! :-(
My mother goes Wednesday to have her first eye, her left eye,
operated on for cataracts.
I can even see myself moving and thinking SO SLOWLY! I need to get
back closer to normal!
But, I want to say -- THANK YOU again! :-D My wrong card purchase
wound up being fixed before the wrong one was actually shipped to me, so
all is well!
Barry
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On 2008-08-10, Barry L. Bond <barry@barrycon.cfl.rr.com> wrote:
[ ... ]
>> Check them with the loopback connector (pin 2 to pin 3) and you
>>don't need the computers working to be sure that the terminals work.
>
> That's true. I haven't checked more than the one yet, that worked on
> the Sun attached to ttyb.
And the loopback connector keeps you from having to run back and
forth between the computer end and the terminal end.
> I didn't have one minute yesterday to get to "this stuff". And, I
> still went to bed late...
>
>> Hmm ... you haven't told me what Exabyte it is. Let's go for
>>the easy thing to check. What color is the tape cartridge?
>>
>>1) Black Older Exabyte up through 8505 -- cartridges for this
>> should be dirt cheap on eBay -- and you can also use
>> 8mm video tapes with some loss in reliability.
>>
>>2) White Mammoth -- moderately expensive on eBay, sometimes
>> real bargains available however.
>>
>>3) Blue Mammoth-2 -- very expensive most of the time on eBay.
>
> Sorry about that! :-O
>
> The tape cartridge is black, with green letters where it says, on the
> cartridge, EXATAPE, 8MM DATA CARTRIDGE, 112m, and Exabyte.
Black -- so probably around 7GB maximum for the EXB-8505. Less
for the earlier ones like the 8200 (2.3 GB with normal length tapes -- I
think that the 112 Meter ones may be the XL ones. Nope -- 160 Meters is
the XL, so expect about 5GB per tape -- perhaps double that with the
drive using built-in compression. Is it half-height, with just a slot
to put the tape in and a small door behind it, or full height, with a
swing-out door. If the latter, it is an older drive, and is either the
8200 or the 8500. You can tell which by where the button is located vs
where the LEDs are. But I would have to dig up one of the old ones to
be sure. Not that it matters much at present. But if you put a black
tape cartridge into a Mammoth or Mammoth-2, it would perhaps try to read
it, but would start flashing an amber LED after you are done saying that
the heads need a cleaning tape -- *every* time you put such a tape into
it.
>>> I just purchased a QFE card, just now, from Ebay. A "buy it now"
>>> from weavh, with 100% positive comments. I just paid for it, via Ebay,
>>> and they'll take it from my checking account.
>>>
>>> It is a 501-4837 X1049A SBus Sun Quad FastEthernet Card.
>>>
>>> When that arrives, I'll put it in a PCI slot in the Ultra 30.
>>
>> No you won't! Unfortunately, the 501-4837 is the Sbus version
>>of the card -- and it won't fit in the Ultra-30. You need one of:
>>
>> 501-4366
>> 501-5406
>> 540-4094
>>
>>the PCI versions to use in your Ultra-30. What you got can be used in
>>systems up to the Ultra-2 -- no later machine has the Sbus for it to
>>plug into.
>>
>> I believe that I gave you the numbers to look for in an earlier
>>posting.
>
> :-)
>
> Well, first I want to say THANK YOU. Your indicating this, and my
> emailing the ebay seller (weavh), and he's replied. He understands
> COMPLETELY. And, he is switching it for me!
Great!
> He mentioned he had the 501-4366 and the 501-5406 and he said he'd
> prepare the 501-5406 for me. And, both of these numbers match what you
> have, above.
Glad that you caught a reasonable vendor in time.
> But, actually, I went back to one of the earliest replies you had to
> me in this thread, and here is what I saw:
>
><<>>
> That is because you don't *have* a separate card for that Ethernet
> port.
>
> If you have a spare PCI slot, you can add another Ethernet card
> there, or replace the existing second Ethernet card with a QFE (Quad
> Fast Ethernet) card. Look for the following numbers in eBay (assuming
> that you have no business paying for replacement hardware):
>
> 501-4837
> 501-5443
>
> 501-4302
>
> The first two would probably be the better choices.
><<>>
>
> So, I typed 501-4837 as a result of that!
Oops! My apologies. One of the hazards of dealing with your
postings just before it is time to go to bed. :-) (I'm a little ahead of
time here, because Sunday has less usenet traffic in the newsgroups
which I frequent.
If you *ever* see a Sun Field Engineer's Handbook offered on
eBay -- get it. I have what I believe was the last edition (copyright
1999), and it is very useful for finding what fits what and what works
with what -- as long as the machine is not too new or too old. (The
sun3 (Motorola 68020 CPU) computers and some of the early Sparc based
machines (up through the SparcStation 2), and machines newer than the
Sun Blade 1000 (for example the Sun Blade 2000, which is very similar)
are not covered. A pity that they stopped offering printed copies of
this book.
> No problem. Like I said, Jeff, the seller said he had a small house
> fire in February and it took a LONG TIME to get back to normal, so he
> understood my extra problems right now, dealing with lightning-fried stuff
> while working (a job where my code was recently integrated, and I'm the
> primary helper on AdaTEST) and trying to deal more with my mother than
> I've had to in the past! :-O
Ouch!
> Your telling me what you did allowed me to contact him, and the
> 501-5406 will be what is actually shipped to me! :-)
Great!
>> Just by renaming the hostname.hme0 and hostname.hme1 files to
>>hostname.hme1 and hostname.hme2 -- once you get the *right* QFE card.
>>Note that the PCI QFE card has LEDs to verify connectivity for each
>>port.
>
> Okay... Actually, hostname.hme1 -- the Linux system, could be left
> the same. Or, are you recommending that I also connect the Linux system
> to one of these 4 QFE ports?
I'm recommending that you use only the QFE unless you need a
fifth ethernet port. Part of the problem is what the port in the card
will be called when you add the QFE as well. It may continue to be
called hme1, and the others would be hme2 through hme5, or it may be
that the QFE will be hme1 through hme4, and the old card would become
hme5 -- it all depends on the order in which the system scans the card
slots. Oh yes -- it may start out with the old card remaining hme1, but
if you do a reconfigure boot, it may get shuffled. With only the bad
hme0 on the system board, and the QFE in the box, the QFE will get hme1
through hme4 with no question, so you will have more predictability.
>> Yes -- and you could make a direct connection to the serial box
>>from one of those -- but you would have to edit some files to make it
>>work.
>
> I AM planning on that! :-O A call to D-Link tech service (since I
> am still able to make a free request, since I just recently purchased a
> new D-Link router) wasn't much help!
:-(
> I SUSPECT that I have to configure something in the D-Link router
> differently. I've actually never had anything attached to one of the
> ports that was LAN use only. The guy at Avocent and this tech support
> person that I called right after midnight yesterday/Saturday said it was
> possible. But, he wasn't any help whatsoever in helping me figure out
> what that was!
I suspect that you'll need to allocate static IP addresses to
the D-link (which may be asking your router for IPs via dhcp), and to
configure the IP information in /etc/hosts (and in later systems -- not
sure about Solaris 8) you'll need to duplicate the information in
/etc/inet/ipnodes -- which you might make a symlink to /etc/hosts to
make sure that they contain the same information.
> I DO want it just attached to now another network port I'll have on
> the Sun, where I can just configure it as another IP/ethernet port and not
> have the D-Link stuff "in the middle". :-)
>
> I am BEYOND EXHAUSTED. I probably will try disconnecting the D-Link
> router from my Linux system -- TEMPORARILY -- and plugging the serial hub
> directly into it -- just to see if I can communicate with it.
O.K. Good Luck.
> That will give me a confirmation it's working and perhaps give me a
> better idea (seeing it on my web browser) of exactly what configuring a
> serial port is all about. I just printed the 96-page manual, and I will
> look over that.
O.K. Good luck there.
> I do SUSPECT it's working. The D-Link router showed the MAC address
> of it as an "Additional computer" on the LAN. The D-Link router and it
> seemed happy and fine talking to each other -- even if I couldn't! :-D
:-) Can you find out what IP address the Serial box is using?
Is it in the address block which the Sun is using?
> I'm going to bed tonight in time to get 8 hours of sleep before I get
> up at 3:30 tomorrow morning! Every movement is a strain! :-(
>
> My mother goes Wednesday to have her first eye, her left eye,
> operated on for cataracts.
Good Luck.
> I can even see myself moving and thinking SO SLOWLY! I need to get
> back closer to normal!
Yes, you do.
> But, I want to say -- THANK YOU again! :-D My wrong card purchase
> wound up being fixed before the wrong one was actually shipped to me, so
> all is well!
Great again.
Good Luck,
DoN.
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> Black -- so probably around 7GB maximum for the EXB-8505. Less
>for the earlier ones like the 8200 (2.3 GB with normal length tapes -- I
>think that the 112 Meter ones may be the XL ones. Nope -- 160 Meters is
>the XL, so expect about 5GB per tape -- perhaps double that with the
>drive using built-in compression. Is it half-height, with just a slot
>to put the tape in and a small door behind it, or full height, with a
>swing-out door. If the latter, it is an older drive, and is either the
>8200 or the 8500. You can tell which by where the button is located vs
>where the LEDs are. But I would have to dig up one of the old ones to
>be sure. Not that it matters much at present. But if you put a black
>tape cartridge into a Mammoth or Mammoth-2, it would perhaps try to read
>it, but would start flashing an amber LED after you are done saying that
>the heads need a cleaning tape -- *every* time you put such a tape into
>it.
I would say it is likely an earlier one. Tony told me this Sun and
the tape drive... I think he said it was given to him, and he had it for
years and never did anything with it, so he gave it to me when he learned
that another system (and with two network ports) could be an ideal mail
host and router, and still allow my Linux to be on a "private" network.
The Linux is what my mother and I use. I have a LOT of stuff on it! (My
mother only uses my FMS - Financial Management System, a set of programs I
finished in 1988 that allows you to track all cash, credit card, checking,
savings, IRA, etc. transactions. It reconciles our bank statements and I
print my tax totals with it. And, if there is any thing I need to know
when I purchased something, I can find it if it is since 1988 [yep, so
about 20 years of data, this year!] without looking for the receipt! I
also have a DATES and ADDRESS database. The Caller ID box that is
normally hooked up to the Linux system reports caller IDs to the computer.
I have a high priority daemon I wrote running on the Linux system. If the
number is someone I know and have in my address database, it will actually
pronounce the name of who's calling, via the speech synthesizer which is
also hooked up via those same serial ports. [And, I have an extensive
"speech queue" that breaks the stream up into words. If there is a word
that is not properly pronounced, I have a file where I can insert the word
spelled properly on one line, and on the following line, I can spell the
word in such a way that the speech synthesizer will speak it better.
Also, acronyms... SAIC has "S A I C" on the following line, so it will
pronounce ESS AYA EYE CEE rather than SAYIK! :-D] I used to do all my
own programming, and I have a lot on it. This is just scratching the
surface.)
But, I don't know for sure. Even Tony didn't get it new.
It is half-height. You put the tape in where the is a "door" BEHIND
the outer portion of the unit. Worded another way, when you insert the
tape, you push in the door.
>> He mentioned he had the 501-4366 and the 501-5406 and he said he'd
>> prepare the 501-5406 for me. And, both of these numbers match what you
>> have, above.
And, today, the $26.75 ($19.95 plus shipping) showed up in my
checking account, through Paypal, and I got a personal email saying he had
shipped the 501-5406. Express mail, 2 to 3 days, so I may get that by the
end of this week!
(The 501-5406 is the same price.)
> Glad that you caught a reasonable vendor in time.
Jeff is a VERY nice guy! He had 1,784 comments, and 100% positive.
> If you *ever* see a Sun Field Engineer's Handbook offered on
>eBay -- get it. I have what I believe was the last edition (copyright
>1999), and it is very useful for finding what fits what and what works
>with what -- as long as the machine is not too new or too old. (The
>sun3 (Motorola 68020 CPU) computers and some of the early Sparc based
>machines (up through the SparcStation 2), and machines newer than the
>Sun Blade 1000 (for example the Sun Blade 2000, which is very similar)
>are not covered. A pity that they stopped offering printed copies of
>this book.
Okay. Thank you. Eventually, I'll look for this. (I have more than
I can handle at this moment!) :-O
I printed nearly every one of your replies. And, I'll be looking
over them carefully, for the little notes about "look for" and especially
about how to fix the Sun computer when I get this QFE card! :-)
> I'm recommending that you use only the QFE unless you need a
>fifth ethernet port. Part of the problem is what the port in the card
>will be called when you add the QFE as well. It may continue to be
>called hme1, and the others would be hme2 through hme5, or it may be
>that the QFE will be hme1 through hme4, and the old card would become
>hme5 -- it all depends on the order in which the system scans the card
>slots. Oh yes -- it may start out with the old card remaining hme1, but
>if you do a reconfigure boot, it may get shuffled. With only the bad
>hme0 on the system board, and the QFE in the box, the QFE will get hme1
>through hme4 with no question, so you will have more predictability.
Ah! I understand. When I get it, do you have a preference for which
PCI slot I install it in? I have at least one blank PCI slot both above
and below the existing PCI card which is the hme1 network port.
> I suspect that you'll need to allocate static IP addresses to
>the D-link (which may be asking your router for IPs via dhcp), and to
>configure the IP information in /etc/hosts (and in later systems -- not
>sure about Solaris 8) you'll need to duplicate the information in
>/etc/inet/ipnodes -- which you might make a symlink to /etc/hosts to
>make sure that they contain the same information.
> :-) Can you find out what IP address the Serial box is using?
>Is it in the address block which the Sun is using?
Thank you for your advice even on things you don't know! :-)
It is 192.1.1.1, unless it is changed. I am *thinking* that I had
the Linux routes configured to send 192.1.1.1 out the eth0 port when I had
it temporarily connected directly to the Linux, but I'll double-check that,
the next time I have a chance to try it out. I can't actually be sure!
:-(
I'll be off all of Wednesday of this week. I'll be taking my mother
for her first cataract surgery, left eye. I don't yet know how available
I'll be. If she has no problems, I'll take her for her one day post-op
check up Thursday morning and get to work for at least some hours on
Thursday. We'll see how things go. I certainly have a LOT to do, if I
have time for it! :-O :-)
Barry
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On 2008-08-11, Barry L. Bond <barry@barrycon.cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Don!
>
>> Black -- so probably around 7GB maximum for the EXB-8505. Less
[ ... ]
> I would say it is likely an earlier one. Tony told me this Sun and
> the tape drive... I think he said it was given to him, and he had it for
> years and never did anything with it, so he gave it to me when he learned
> that another system (and with two network ports) could be an ideal mail
> host and router, and still allow my Linux to be on a "private" network.
[ ... ]
> Also, acronyms... SAIC has "S A I C" on the following line, so it will
> pronounce ESS AYA EYE CEE rather than SAYIK! :-D] I used to do all my
> own programming, and I have a lot on it. This is just scratching the
> surface.)
Text to speech can be strange. I remember a blind friend who
uses such in a PC. Back in the DOS days, it would say:
Abort ret-ry Ignore
instead of
Abort Re-Try Ignore.
> But, I don't know for sure. Even Tony didn't get it new.
>
> It is half-height. You put the tape in where the is a "door" BEHIND
> the outer portion of the unit. Worded another way, when you insert the
> tape, you push in the door.
O.K. So is is probably either an 8505, or an 8505XL (the latter
will handle the 160 meter tapes and thus get more data on a tape. The
plain 8505 just looks at it and spits it out -- thinking that it doesn't
know how to handle the thinner tape gently enough. :-) (It looks at the
pattern of holes in the bottom corners of the tape cartridges, so it
never even needs to load the tape around the head drum to see what kind
it is.) Note that if you have an amber LED flashing on the front panel
when there is no tape in it, it needs a cleaning tape.
>>> He mentioned he had the 501-4366 and the 501-5406 and he said he'd
>>> prepare the 501-5406 for me. And, both of these numbers match what you
>>> have, above.
>
> And, today, the $26.75 ($19.95 plus shipping) showed up in my
> checking account, through Paypal, and I got a personal email saying he had
> shipped the 501-5406. Express mail, 2 to 3 days, so I may get that by the
> end of this week!
Great!
> (The 501-5406 is the same price.)
>
>> Glad that you caught a reasonable vendor in time.
>
> Jeff is a VERY nice guy! He had 1,784 comments, and 100% positive.
>
>> If you *ever* see a Sun Field Engineer's Handbook offered on
>>eBay -- get it. I have what I believe was the last edition (copyright
>>1999), and it is very useful for finding what fits what and what works
>>with what -- as long as the machine is not too new or too old. (The
>>sun3 (Motorola 68020 CPU) computers and some of the early Sparc based
>>machines (up through the SparcStation 2), and machines newer than the
>>Sun Blade 1000 (for example the Sun Blade 2000, which is very similar)
>>are not covered. A pity that they stopped offering printed copies of
>>this book.
>
> Okay. Thank you. Eventually, I'll look for this. (I have more than
> I can handle at this moment!) :-O
Understood. Just keep your eyes open when you are on eBay.
That is where I got my later one. The earlier one I got free from a Sun
Field engineer when he got the update pages -- so I had to find my own
binders. The binders which come with it are nice -- designed so the
cover folds back part way while the spine with the rings stays rigid to
form a tripod to hold the pages slanted for easier reading without
needing your hands on it.
> I printed nearly every one of your replies. And, I'll be looking
> over them carefully, for the little notes about "look for" and especially
> about how to fix the Sun computer when I get this QFE card! :-)
Beware that I may have some things wrong -- especially since
there was another discussion of the Ultra-2 going on at about the same
time, which may be why I suggested the wrong set of QFE cards the first
time around.
>> I'm recommending that you use only the QFE unless you need a
>>fifth ethernet port. Part of the problem is what the port in the card
>>will be called when you add the QFE as well. It may continue to be
>>called hme1, and the others would be hme2 through hme5, or it may be
>>that the QFE will be hme1 through hme4, and the old card would become
>>hme5 -- it all depends on the order in which the system scans the card
>>slots. Oh yes -- it may start out with the old card remaining hme1, but
>>if you do a reconfigure boot, it may get shuffled. With only the bad
>>hme0 on the system board, and the QFE in the box, the QFE will get hme1
>>through hme4 with no question, so you will have more predictability.
>
> Ah! I understand. When I get it, do you have a preference for which
> PCI slot I install it in? I have at least one blank PCI slot both above
> and below the existing PCI card which is the hme1 network port.
Well ... first *pull* the exiting hme1 card, so you get a
logical series of device names. Then if the others don't show up, touch
the file "/reconfigure" and reboot to cause it to re-scan what is there
and make the necessary device entries.
I really don't know what order the Ultra-30 scans the PCI card
slots in, so I can't predict what hme number the old card would get and
what numbers the QFE ports would get.
From the FEH page, the top-most slot is 1, and the bottom-most
is 4, and all are 33 MHz slots, unlike the Sun Blade 1000 and 2000,
where the bottom-most slot is a 66 MHz one.
*But* -- the top slot is a 3.3V slot, and the other three are 5V
slots.
The FEH says that the 501-5406 is both 5V and 3.3V (auto
switching, I presume), so it does not seem to matter what slot you put
it in.
Hmm ... looking at the FEH entry for the PCI QFE cards, I see
something which I missed earlier:
4. The Ultra 30 requires DC21153 Revision C (see BugID 4094903)
No idea what that BugID is, and no idea how to tell whether the DC21153
is part of the hardware or the OS. If the OS, then Solaris 10 should fix
it anyway.
>> I suspect that you'll need to allocate static IP addresses to
>>the D-link (which may be asking your router for IPs via dhcp), and to
>>configure the IP information in /etc/hosts (and in later systems -- not
>>sure about Solaris 8) you'll need to duplicate the information in
>>/etc/inet/ipnodes -- which you might make a symlink to /etc/hosts to
>>make sure that they contain the same information.
>
>> :-) Can you find out what IP address the Serial box is using?
>>Is it in the address block which the Sun is using?
>
> Thank you for your advice even on things you don't know! :-)
>
> It is 192.1.1.1, unless it is changed. I am *thinking* that I had
> the Linux routes configured to send 192.1.1.1 out the eth0 port when I had
> it temporarily connected directly to the Linux, but I'll double-check that,
> the next time I have a chance to try it out. I can't actually be sure!
>:-(
O.K. Look at the output of "netstat -r" to see what routing is
being done for the multiple ports.
For an Sun Blade 1000, with only one ethernet port, the output
on mine is:
Routing Table: IPv4
Destination Gateway Flags Ref Use Interface
-------------------- -------------------- ----- ----- ---------- ---------
default Sponge UG 1 7748
10.0.0.0 Katana U 1 4623 eri0
BASE-ADDRESS.MCAST.NET Katana U 1 0 eri0
localhost localhost UH 10 67829 lo0
================================================== ====================
But the only net which it is connected to is 10.0.0.0, and it is
using the built-in eri0 ethernet port. I could show the Ultra-5 with
the qfe, but the OS is OpenBSD, and things are too complex to make sense
here, since it is running as a firewall, and using all five ports,
though some are just waiting for other connections. :-)
> I'll be off all of Wednesday of this week. I'll be taking my mother
> for her first cataract surgery, left eye. I don't yet know how available
> I'll be. If she has no problems, I'll take her for her one day post-op
> check up Thursday morning and get to work for at least some hours on
> Thursday. We'll see how things go. I certainly have a LOT to do, if I
> have time for it! :-O :-)
Good Luck,
DoN.
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> O.K. So is is probably either an 8505, or an 8505XL (the latter
>will handle the 160 meter tapes and thus get more data on a tape. The
>plain 8505 just looks at it and spits it out -- thinking that it doesn't
>know how to handle the thinner tape gently enough. :-) (It looks at the
>pattern of holes in the bottom corners of the tape cartridges, so it
>never even needs to load the tape around the head drum to see what kind
>it is.) Note that if you have an amber LED flashing on the front panel
>when there is no tape in it, it needs a cleaning tape.
Ah! Thank you! I *think* there is an amber LED. It hasn't been
flashing on me, but it's good to know that! :-)
> Beware that I may have some things wrong -- especially since
>there was another discussion of the Ultra-2 going on at about the same
>time, which may be why I suggested the wrong set of QFE cards the first
>time around.
Yes, thank you. I'll keep it in mind when I look back over the
printouts of your messages.
Although, that wasn't this problem. I got those numbers from around
your second posting, and I hadn't even received or mentioned the Ultra 5
at that time. :-)
> Well ... first *pull* the exiting hme1 card, so you get a
>logical series of device names. Then if the others don't show up, touch
>the file "/reconfigure" and reboot to cause it to re-scan what is there
>and make the necessary device entries.
Okay. I will do that! Thank you!!!
> I really don't know what order the Ultra-30 scans the PCI card
>slots in, so I can't predict what hme number the old card would get and
>what numbers the QFE ports would get.
>
> From the FEH page, the top-most slot is 1, and the bottom-most
>is 4, and all are 33 MHz slots, unlike the Sun Blade 1000 and 2000,
>where the bottom-most slot is a 66 MHz one.
>
> *But* -- the top slot is a 3.3V slot, and the other three are 5V
>slots.
>
> The FEH says that the 501-5406 is both 5V and 3.3V (auto
>switching, I presume), so it does not seem to matter what slot you put
>it in.
Understood.
> Hmm ... looking at the FEH entry for the PCI QFE cards, I see
>something which I missed earlier:
>
> 4. The Ultra 30 requires DC21153 Revision C (see BugID 4094903)
>
>No idea what that BugID is, and no idea how to tell whether the DC21153
>is part of the hardware or the OS. If the OS, then Solaris 10 should fix
>it anyway.
Okay... :-) We'll see whether I can get it working, with Solaris 8,
when it arrives! :-O
My mother and I are back. It went VERY well -- even in her words!
That is a relief, to me! (She wasn't taking this well. She has never had
a surgery!)
She has to put the three different eye drops in every two hours
today, and they're burning her eye, now that it has had an incision.
Tomorrow morning, at 8:10, we'll be back for her one day post-op check up.
It turned out well, and I trust that the *dread* she has had for this
will be at least somewhat lessened as she prepares to have her right eye
done! :-) (And, she has said it would be, now that's she's been through
it for one eye.)
She'll likely have her right eye done as soon as they will schedule
her, probably in the next couple to few weeks.
I'm back home, and things have gone well!
Barry
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On 2008-08-13, Barry L. Bond <barry@barrycon.cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Don!
>
>> O.K. So is is probably either an 8505, or an 8505XL (the latter
>>will handle the 160 meter tapes and thus get more data on a tape. The
>>plain 8505 just looks at it and spits it out -- thinking that it doesn't
>>know how to handle the thinner tape gently enough. :-) (It looks at the
>>pattern of holes in the bottom corners of the tape cartridges, so it
>>never even needs to load the tape around the head drum to see what kind
>>it is.) Note that if you have an amber LED flashing on the front panel
>>when there is no tape in it, it needs a cleaning tape.
>
> Ah! Thank you! I *think* there is an amber LED. It hasn't been
> flashing on me, but it's good to know that! :-)
O.K. So you don't need a cleaning tape yet. :-)
>> Beware that I may have some things wrong -- especially since
>>there was another discussion of the Ultra-2 going on at about the same
>>time, which may be why I suggested the wrong set of QFE cards the first
>>time around.
>
> Yes, thank you. I'll keep it in mind when I look back over the
> printouts of your messages.
And if there is any real doubt *ask* me to verify before you
commit yourself to a purchase.
> Although, that wasn't this problem. I got those numbers from around
> your second posting, and I hadn't even received or mentioned the Ultra 5
> at that time. :-)
But you do have an Ultra-30 don't you? The Ultra-5 and Ultra-30
use the same cards. The Ultra-1 and Ultra-2 use Sbus cards instead.
>> Well ... first *pull* the exiting hme1 card, so you get a
>>logical series of device names. Then if the others don't show up, touch
>>the file "/reconfigure" and reboot to cause it to re-scan what is there
>>and make the necessary device entries.
>
> Okay. I will do that! Thank you!!!
Or -- if you are at the OBP level, you can simply type:
boot -r
for a reconfigure boot. But the "touch /reconfigure then reboot" is
what I first learned to do with Solaris 2.x (The System 5 flavors).
>> I really don't know what order the Ultra-30 scans the PCI card
>>slots in, so I can't predict what hme number the old card would get and
>>what numbers the QFE ports would get.
>>
>> From the FEH page, the top-most slot is 1, and the bottom-most
>>is 4, and all are 33 MHz slots, unlike the Sun Blade 1000 and 2000,
>>where the bottom-most slot is a 66 MHz one.
>>
>> *But* -- the top slot is a 3.3V slot, and the other three are 5V
>>slots.
>>
>> The FEH says that the 501-5406 is both 5V and 3.3V (auto
>>switching, I presume), so it does not seem to matter what slot you put
>>it in.
>
> Understood.
>
>> Hmm ... looking at the FEH entry for the PCI QFE cards, I see
>>something which I missed earlier:
>>
>> 4. The Ultra 30 requires DC21153 Revision C (see BugID 4094903)
>>
>>No idea what that BugID is, and no idea how to tell whether the DC21153
>>is part of the hardware or the OS. If the OS, then Solaris 10 should fix
>>it anyway.
>
> Okay... :-) We'll see whether I can get it working, with Solaris 8,
> when it arrives! :-O
O.K. I hope that the BugID doesn't apply to your machine.
> My mother and I are back. It went VERY well -- even in her words!
> That is a relief, to me! (She wasn't taking this well. She has never had
> a surgery!)
I can understand that. While I have had surgery, it was a the
age of six weeks I think, and I was in no position to worry about it.
:-) Beyond that, I've just had a small chip of metal cut out of my
chest.
> She has to put the three different eye drops in every two hours
> today, and they're burning her eye, now that it has had an incision.
> Tomorrow morning, at 8:10, we'll be back for her one day post-op check up.
I hope that goes well.
> It turned out well, and I trust that the *dread* she has had for this
> will be at least somewhat lessened as she prepares to have her right eye
> done! :-) (And, she has said it would be, now that's she's been through
> it for one eye.)
Good results help a lot. :-)
> She'll likely have her right eye done as soon as they will schedule
> her, probably in the next couple to few weeks.
They'll probably want to wait long enough to make sure that
there is no problem developing in the first eye before they go for the
second one.
> I'm back home, and things have gone well!
Great,
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>>> Well ... first *pull* the exiting hme1 card, so you get a
>>>logical series of device names. Then if the others don't show up, touch
>>>the file "/reconfigure" and reboot to cause it to re-scan what is there
>>>and make the necessary device entries.
>>
>> Okay. I will do that! Thank you!!!
>
> Or -- if you are at the OBP level, you can simply type:
>
> boot -r
>
>for a reconfigure boot. But the "touch /reconfigure then reboot" is
>what I first learned to do with Solaris 2.x (The System 5 flavors).
Okay!
The end of this past week has been very bad timing, for what has
occurred, just in the sense of it has made me even less able to have ANY
time for "home stuff" than I normally do!
I had to have my car in as soon as the shop opened this morning. I
needed new wheel bearings on the left, and two new CV axles. It took
enough of the day that they wanted it early this morning.
That meant I couldn't sit up as late as I typically do Friday nights.
(And, Friday nights are normally when I have the most time -- hours -- for
"home stuff"! Saturday is the only morning that X-10 doesn't get me up at
3:30 [weekdays] or 5:00 [Sunday]!)
I am moving very slowly. I am so tired that every movement is a
strain!
But, I'll catch you up on what has been accomplished today, in spite
of two different trips to the shop (one to drop off and one to pay over
$800 for and pick up my car), and other places my mother and I had to go,
today...
I purchased some small CAT6 Ethernet cables at Best Buy. Most of the
adapters didn't come with cables. That surprised me. So, I purchased
some small ones. I now should have EVERYTHING I need relating to the
serial hub. (Actually, I still do not have a few adapters, but everything
else is here. And, if I could just "talk to" the hub, I could get a start
on setting up serial connections.)
Today, in the several different times my mother and I were home,
between trips out for various things, I started one thing from the
lightning strike that hadn't been done yet: the stereo receiver box.
I had purchased a new one, now about three weeks ago, the first
weekend after the strike! But, I hadn't pulled out the entertainment
center, labeled all the cables and replaced it yet! :-O
So, this morning, thinking I probably wouldn't do anything else
regarding the serial hub until I got my Sun card, and could have it
connected in the permanent way I'm planning on having it connected, to the
Sun, instead of to the D-Link router, I realized that the stereo receiver
box was the main thing on which I could spend time and actually get some
good stuff done! :-)
So, it began with mounting an also recently purchased surge protector
to the back of the wooden entertainment center. It has 11 electrical
outlets, coax protection and telephone protection. And, I labeled all the
inputs and stereo speaker cables and pulled them off the old (no longer
working, since the lightning strike) receiver box.
I then did some HEAVY DUTY dusting, with an air hose from my air
compressor! :-) (Air is the BEST WAY to dust certain things, electronic
gadgets with all kinds of nicks and corners in their cabinets, and
ventilation holes!)
Having the shelf on which the receiver box sits empty was just
yelling "Hey, you don't have opportunities like this very often!" :-D
Then, I had to spend a little time in the manual of the new one, as
it sure has added a lot since one about 15 years ago was purchased! :-O
But, just about 6:00 this evening, I got it in, and got all the
cables connected, and it is working! And, all ten speakers (two each of
five rooms) are working, so they all made it through the strike okay.
I've got the TV in the family room back to normal now! (My mother
has had some tough times trying to remember the different way she had to
deal with the TV and related equipment, since the lightning strike!)
I had the TV speaker sound on. It is normally off, and the sound
normally plays through the stereo receiver box. With it now playing that
way again, and the TV speaker sound off, the Terk (audio box) we have is
working again! (The TV commercials are SO MUCH LOUDER than the show
you're watching, that my mother was quite frustrated. I tried purchasing
one early this year, and it works great!)
Bottom line: EVERYTHING is back to normal, regarding the stereo
receiver box and the inputs/connections relating to it! (And, it does so
much additional things over my old one that as I have time, I'm going to
study the manual and perhaps look into doing a couple to few additional
things I hadn't done yet!)
Today in the mail, received late this afternoon, my Sun card came!!
I haven't done anything with it, at this point. I had the family
room really messed up and was into replacing the stereo receiver box, that
I wanted to finish that.
But, it is here. Along with a paper on which Jeff marked "Swap with
501-5406".
So, as I get time for "home stuff" again (and I do not know whether
I'll have a chance in the remainder of this weekend or not, yet), that is
the NEXT THING on which I'm going to work!
I will pull the old card, and I appreciate knowing how to boot to
reconfigure, if I have to. I expect I'll be getting there soon!!
Of course, in the "bad timing" department, things happening OTHER
than my normal "aggressive schedule" work (that's ITT's term for it) and
doing more for my mother, it looks as though we're going to have a
hurricane come through Tuesday! :-)
You know, I'm just so BORED, so just sitting around with nothing to
do, hey! This is great! Now I get to add putting up hurricane shutters
and that kind of stuff to my list! :-D
It's still early to tell for sure, but it looks similar to hurricane
Charley that came about ten miles from my house in 2004, and I got a 79
MPH wind gust. 79 MPH was the highest wind gust I had. I had several
hurricane strength wind gusts. And, I WILL BE putting up my hurricane
shutters, if it continues on that potential path!
Of course, this time, I'm going to have NO IDEA the wind speed! :-O
My weather station, which even though I loved it, is my lowest
lightning strike priority, is not working itself. And, the wind sensor
isn't even there any more!
I think I told you this, but I'm not sure...
The wind sensor had a black plastic portion that fit over the end of
the mast on which is mounted right at the edge of the roof at the back of
my house. On top of that was a rotating portion with three cups, which
measured the wind speed. On top of that was a vane, that measured the
wind direction. And, the last time I held this in my hand, in 1996, when
I was putting it up, these portions were NOT separably! :-O
Well, the plastic that fits over the end of the mast is still there.
But, I have NO IDEA where the rotating and vane portion even is! :-O
It's GONE!
And, the wire that went into it was hanging at the end of my roof
(with plastic ties higher up the mast), with the two wires just there...
visible!
Yes, I do have some evidence that supports where "right at my house"
was directly struck by lightning, at least once, considering my mother
reports MULTIPLE times that sounded just as bad!
I did enjoy glancing at it, and watching certain weather conditions and
trends, especially winds. And, did we get any rain in the last 24 hours.
(A couple of weeks ago, for the second time this growing season, I put new
grass seed down. We are authorized to sprinkle every day for 30 days.
But, if we get enough rain, I tell my mother we don't need to sprinkle the
next morning. She does that for me on weekdays, with my horrible work
schedule.)
It would be particularly interesting to be able to follow the winds,
rain, and barometer when a hurricane comes close, as I did not once, not
twice, but THREE times in 2004. But, oh well.
>> It turned out well, and I trust that the *dread* she has had for this
>> will be at least somewhat lessened as she prepares to have her right eye
>> done! :-) (And, she has said it would be, now that's she's been through
>> it for one eye.)
>
> Good results help a lot. :-)
We did have quite a scare late Wednesday afternoon and into the
evening, since I last wrote you.
She started eye drops Sunday (three days before the surgery) in the
left eye. And, she was instructed to put drops in her eyes every two
hours after she got home from the operation Wednesday, and until the
doctor saw her (which was scheduled for 8:10 Thursday morning).
At 11:15, the first time she had to put drops in her eye after
getting home, she just commented that they really burned.
I didn't think properly to have an idea of the DEGREE of the
INTENSITY of the burning, at that time. I was thinking that was normal.
I can place my finger in alcohol with no problem. But, if I have a cut on
that finger and place it in alcohol, ouch! And, there was an incision in
that eye, now.
Drops went in at 1:15 PM, and 3:15 PM. By 3:15, she was saying more
about it, and I began to "process" that perhaps it was really bad...
My mother has a high tolerance for pain. She didn't even think
about taking the Valium that was offered her before the operation
Wednesday morning. And, she did much better without it!
She was saying "they set her on fire" and the dread she had of the
drops... we talked about it more. We both started thinking that that
degree of burning couldn't be normal!
To make a long story short, she wound up talking to a neighbor who
had had this same type of operation (though so long ago, she didn't
remember whether the drops burned), a nurse at AARP's health care, the
pharmacist who filled her prescription, through about 7:30 Wednesday.
It was 5:15, the time for her next eye drops, and she DIDN'T put them
in, and the first time (of four) that we called their after hours
emergency number and put in our telephone number. (It was a paging system.)
(It turns out it really was the paging system. Thursday morning, the
one who was on call was one of the eye doctors that my mother had before,
and Thursday morning. She was very angry. She said that at least one
other person had reported not getting a call, though two did get through.
And, we trust her.)
Anyway, we were scared, because if she was supposed to put drops in,
she wasn't! Or, if it wasn't normal for it to burn THAT BAD, perhaps
something is wrong?
Well, we got a relief Thursday morning. It turns out that her eyes
are VERY SENSITIVE, compared to the average eye. And, she should follow
the directions to do it every two hours, if possible. (And, she would
have done that, she was just wondering whether something was wrong...)
But, the doctors Thursday were VERY pleased at the condition of her
eye, one day after the surgery! And, she could see 20/25 without her
glasses in her left eye!
And, the drops don't sting that bad now, with the incision in her eye
healing.
So, still, the "dread" for her next eye should be reduced. Though
she may dread the burning/stinging of the drops on the day of the
operation.
She goes back this coming Wednesday morning. That will be a one-week
check up, and they'll set the appointments for doing her right eye.
(Well, at least that is the plans. Based on the lack of an ability
to travel for at least a couple days after hurricane Charley came through
in 2004, if Fay turns out to be similar, we likely won't be going! And,
this house was without power for over five days after Charley, so that
will also take care of Sun card work!) :-D
Barry
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Software Engineer, ITT Corporation | (My personal home web page, last
bbondATcfl.rr.com | updated February 17, 2005)
On 2008-08-17, Barry L. Bond <barry@barrycon.cfl.rr.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Don!
[ ... ]
>>for a reconfigure boot. But the "touch /reconfigure then reboot" is
>>what I first learned to do with Solaris 2.x (The System 5 flavors).
>
> Okay!
>
> The end of this past week has been very bad timing, for what has
> occurred, just in the sense of it has made me even less able to have ANY
> time for "home stuff" than I normally do!
Ouch!
> I had to have my car in as soon as the shop opened this morning. I
> needed new wheel bearings on the left, and two new CV axles. It took
> enough of the day that they wanted it early this morning.
>
> That meant I couldn't sit up as late as I typically do Friday nights.
> (And, Friday nights are normally when I have the most time -- hours -- for
> "home stuff"! Saturday is the only morning that X-10 doesn't get me up at
> 3:30 [weekdays] or 5:00 [Sunday]!)
Take it easy if you can. This is only as urgent as *you* need
it to be.
> I am moving very slowly. I am so tired that every movement is a
> strain!
>
> But, I'll catch you up on what has been accomplished today, in spite
> of two different trips to the shop (one to drop off and one to pay over
> $800 for and pick up my car), and other places my mother and I had to go,
> today...
Ouch!
> I purchased some small CAT6 Ethernet cables at Best Buy. Most of the
> adapters didn't come with cables. That surprised me. So, I purchased
> some small ones. I now should have EVERYTHING I need relating to the
> serial hub. (Actually, I still do not have a few adapters, but everything
> else is here. And, if I could just "talk to" the hub, I could get a start
> on setting up serial connections.)
Does that serial hub have RJ-45 connectors (the 8-pin version of
the modular phone connectors) for the serial ports? You got the hub,
and a bunch of RS-232 connectors with RJ-45 connectors in their backs?
If so, it was probably assumed that you would either:
1) Purchase pre-made ethernet cables of lengths appropriate for
your needs.
or
2) Get some 8-conductor phone type ribbon cable, some crimp-on
RJ-45 connectors, and a crimping tool, and make your own to
the length needed. (This is what *I* would do, and I already
have all of the above-mentioned items. ;_)
> Today, in the several different times my mother and I were home,
> between trips out for various things, I started one thing from the
> lightning strike that hadn't been done yet: the stereo receiver box.
O.K. Did you check to see whether it was just a fuse? Though
the electronics in a receiver box would be fairly sensitive to lightning
damage -- and more so if it were connected to an external antenna.
[ ... ]
> So, it began with mounting an also recently purchased surge protector
> to the back of the wooden entertainment center. It has 11 electrical
> outlets, coax protection and telephone protection. And, I labeled all the
> inputs and stereo speaker cables and pulled them off the old (no longer
> working, since the lightning strike) receiver box.
The surge protector is a good idea -- but if you have external
antennas -- disconnect them when a thunderstorm (or especially a
hurricane) is expected to come through.
> I then did some HEAVY DUTY dusting, with an air hose from my air
> compressor! :-) (Air is the BEST WAY to dust certain things, electronic
> gadgets with all kinds of nicks and corners in their cabinets, and
> ventilation holes!)
Well ... yes and no. Part of the problem is that heavy airflow
can build up static electricity on the chips's packages and can
sometimes zap the chips. Especially avoid dry air (though if you don't
have a dryer, the compressor will probably give fairly moist air. But
yes, I use compressed air (carefully) to clean up computers afer running
some time in this house with two cats. :-)
[ ... ]
> But, just about 6:00 this evening, I got it in, and got all the
> cables connected, and it is working! And, all ten speakers (two each of
> five rooms) are working, so they all made it through the strike okay.
Great! Though I would not have expected damage to speakers
unless they got a direct hit.
> I've got the TV in the family room back to normal now! (My mother
> has had some tough times trying to remember the different way she had to
> deal with the TV and related equipment, since the lightning strike!)
Remember -- pull the antennas when the hurricane comes through.
> I had the TV speaker sound on. It is normally off, and the sound
> normally plays through the stereo receiver box. With it now playing that
> way again, and the TV speaker sound off, the Terk (audio box) we have is
> working again! (The TV commercials are SO MUCH LOUDER than the show
> you're watching, that my mother was quite frustrated. I tried purchasing
> one early this year, and it works great!)
Commercials get the mute button -- quickly.
> Bottom line: EVERYTHING is back to normal, regarding the stereo
> receiver box and the inputs/connections relating to it! (And, it does so
> much additional things over my old one that as I have time, I'm going to
> study the manual and perhaps look into doing a couple to few additional
> things I hadn't done yet!)
Great!
> Today in the mail, received late this afternoon, my Sun card came!!
Also great!
> I haven't done anything with it, at this point. I had the family
> room really messed up and was into replacing the stereo receiver box, that
> I wanted to finish that.
I understand -- the project in process get priority.
> But, it is here. Along with a paper on which Jeff marked "Swap with
> 501-5406".
>
> So, as I get time for "home stuff" again (and I do not know whether
> I'll have a chance in the remainder of this weekend or not, yet), that is
> the NEXT THING on which I'm going to work!
If you have power to work on it. :-)
> I will pull the old card, and I appreciate knowing how to boot to
> reconfigure, if I have to. I expect I'll be getting there soon!!
Great!
> Of course, in the "bad timing" department, things happening OTHER
> than my normal "aggressive schedule" work (that's ITT's term for it) and
> doing more for my mother, it looks as though we're going to have a
> hurricane come through Tuesday! :-)
>
> You know, I'm just so BORED, so just sitting around with nothing to
> do, hey! This is great! Now I get to add putting up hurricane shutters
> and that kind of stuff to my list! :-D
And putting disconnects in the antenna cables.
> It's still early to tell for sure, but it looks similar to hurricane
> Charley that came about ten miles from my house in 2004, and I got a 79
> MPH wind gust. 79 MPH was the highest wind gust I had. I had several
> hurricane strength wind gusts. And, I WILL BE putting up my hurricane
> shutters, if it continues on that potential path!
Good luck with it.
> Of course, this time, I'm going to have NO IDEA the wind speed! :-O
>
> My weather station, which even though I loved it, is my lowest
> lightning strike priority, is not working itself. And, the wind sensor
> isn't even there any more!
>
> I think I told you this, but I'm not sure...
>
> The wind sensor had a black plastic portion that fit over the end of
> the mast on which is mounted right at the edge of the roof at the back of
> my house. On top of that was a rotating portion with three cups, which
> measured the wind speed. On top of that was a vane, that measured the
> wind direction. And, the last time I held this in my hand, in 1996, when
> I was putting it up, these portions were NOT separably! :-O
I suspect that the annemometer was the point of direct hit by
the lighting, and the path into everything else. Mine has a heavy (8
gauge) wire going down the chimney to a separate ground stake. Still
not enough to keep it from frying the RS-232 port on the computer which
was watching it at the time.
> Well, the plastic that fits over the end of the mast is still there.
> But, I have NO IDEA where the rotating and vane portion even is! :-O
> It's GONE!
I suspect that there was water in the cup, and it was turned
into a *lot* of steam and blew things apart.
> And, the wire that went into it was hanging at the end of my roof
> (with plastic ties higher up the mast), with the two wires just there...
> visible!
Yep. Direct hit.
> Yes, I do have some evidence that supports where "right at my house"
> was directly struck by lightning, at least once, considering my mother
> reports MULTIPLE times that sounded just as bad!
I remember hearing serious thrumming sounds when the lightning
hit the lightning rods in the house where I grew up as a kid in South
Texas. No fancy electronics in those days -- and the radios had tubes,
not transistors, so they could survive a lot.
[ ... ]
> It would be particularly interesting to be able to follow the winds,
> rain, and barometer when a hurricane comes close, as I did not once, not
> twice, but THREE times in 2004. But, oh well.
Yep.
[ ... ]
> We did have quite a scare late Wednesday afternoon and into the
> evening, since I last wrote you.
>
> She started eye drops Sunday (three days before the surgery) in the
[ ... ]
> My mother has a high tolerance for pain. She didn't even think
> about taking the Valium that was offered her before the operation
> Wednesday morning. And, she did much better without it!
>
> She was saying "they set her on fire" and the dread she had of the
> drops... we talked about it more. We both started thinking that that
> degree of burning couldn't be normal!
[ ... ]
> Well, we got a relief Thursday morning. It turns out that her eyes
> are VERY SENSITIVE, compared to the average eye. And, she should follow
> the directions to do it every two hours, if possible. (And, she would
> have done that, she was just wondering whether something was wrong...)
Understood.
> But, the doctors Thursday were VERY pleased at the condition of her
> eye, one day after the surgery! And, she could see 20/25 without her
> glasses in her left eye!
Good!
> And, the drops don't sting that bad now, with the incision in her eye
> healing.
Also good -- and now she knows what to expect from the drops.
> So, still, the "dread" for her next eye should be reduced. Though
> she may dread the burning/stinging of the drops on the day of the
> operation.
>
> She goes back this coming Wednesday morning. That will be a one-week
> check up, and they'll set the appointments for doing her right eye.
>
> (Well, at least that is the plans. Based on the lack of an ability
> to travel for at least a couple days after hurricane Charley came through
> in 2004, if Fay turns out to be similar, we likely won't be going! And,
> this house was without power for over five days after Charley, so that
> will also take care of Sun card work!) :-D
I hope it turns aside. I gather that you are somewhere in
Florida? Usually, by the time hurricanes make it up here (near
Washington DC) things are pretty mild, except for a lot more rain than
usual.
Good Luck,
DoN.
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--- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero ---
Okay! It is Tuesday morning. My hurricane shutters are up. We have
water up. And, we were already ready in every other matter, batteries,
two lanterns for our bathroom/whatever, etc.
And, there is no work today! :-)
And, at the moment, we have electricity!
So, you can imagine what I'm doing! :-D
I'll still be interrupted, from time to time, but I should have a
decent amount of time to give this, today!
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