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  #1  
Old 08-15-2007, 10:54 AM
Andre Majorel
 
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Default Silicon Image 0680 + 3114 on same system ?

I've bought a Connectland "carte PCI RAID ATA 133 0703014" dual
IDE controller (Silicon Image 0680, PCI 1095:0680 rev 02).
Unfortunately it conflicts with the Silicon Image 3114 on the
motherboard (PCI 1095:3114 rev 02).

If I disable the on-board 3114 in the BIOS, the 0680 works but I
lose 4 SATA ports. If I enable the 3114 in the BIOS, the PC
freezes shortly after power-on.

I'm running Linux. Is it possible to disable the 3114 in the
BIOS and have Linux re-enable it when it boots ?

The I/O ports for the 0680 and 3114 overlap somewhat but maybe
they're assigned dynamically ? I don't need the RAID BIOSes as
I'm doing software RAID only.

0680 :
9c00-9c0f : 0000:01:07.0
a000-a003 : 0000:01:07.0
a400-a407 : 0000:01:07.0
a800-a803 : 0000:01:07.0
ac00-ac07 : 0000:01:07.0

3114 :
9800-980f : 0000:01:0d.0
9c00-9c03 : 0000:01:0d.0
a000-a007 : 0000:01:0d.0
a400-a403 : 0000:01:0d.0
a800-a807 : 0000:01:0d.0

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Old 08-17-2007, 03:10 PM
Arno Wagner
 
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Default Re: Silicon Image 0680 + 3114 on same system ?

Previously Andre Majorel <cheney@halliburton.com> wrote:
> I've bought a Connectland "carte PCI RAID ATA 133 0703014" dual
> IDE controller (Silicon Image 0680, PCI 1095:0680 rev 02).
> Unfortunately it conflicts with the Silicon Image 3114 on the
> motherboard (PCI 1095:3114 rev 02).


> If I disable the on-board 3114 in the BIOS, the 0680 works but I
> lose 4 SATA ports. If I enable the 3114 in the BIOS, the PC
> freezes shortly after power-on.


> I'm running Linux. Is it possible to disable the 3114 in the
> BIOS and have Linux re-enable it when it boots ?


Not as far as I know.

> The I/O ports for the 0680 and 3114 overlap somewhat but maybe
> they're assigned dynamically ? I don't need the RAID BIOSes as
> I'm doing software RAID only.


> 0680 :
> 9c00-9c0f : 0000:01:07.0
> a000-a003 : 0000:01:07.0
> a400-a407 : 0000:01:07.0
> a800-a803 : 0000:01:07.0
> ac00-ac07 : 0000:01:07.0


> 3114 :
> 9800-980f : 0000:01:0d.0
> 9c00-9c03 : 0000:01:0d.0
> a000-a007 : 0000:01:0d.0
> a400-a403 : 0000:01:0d.0
> a800-a807 : 0000:01:0d.0


Well, and there seems to be the problem. The ports are likely
allocated by the BIOS and not the kernel. Sorry, but I think Silicon
Image is just being incompatible with itself here and the only
thing that would help is a BIOS update for the controller(s).

Arno

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Old 08-21-2007, 12:21 AM
Andre Majorel
 
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Default Re: Silicon Image 0680 + 3114 on same system ?

On 2007-08-17, Arno Wagner <me@privacy.net> wrote:
> Previously Andre Majorel <cheney@halliburton.com> wrote:


>> The I/O ports for the 0680 and 3114 overlap somewhat but maybe
>> they're assigned dynamically ? I don't need the RAID BIOSes as
>> I'm doing software RAID only.

>
>> 0680 :
>> 9c00-9c0f : 0000:01:07.0
>> a000-a003 : 0000:01:07.0
>> a400-a407 : 0000:01:07.0
>> a800-a803 : 0000:01:07.0
>> ac00-ac07 : 0000:01:07.0

>
>> 3114 :
>> 9800-980f : 0000:01:0d.0
>> 9c00-9c03 : 0000:01:0d.0
>> a000-a007 : 0000:01:0d.0
>> a400-a403 : 0000:01:0d.0
>> a800-a807 : 0000:01:0d.0

>
> Well, and there seems to be the problem. The ports are likely
> allocated by the BIOS and not the kernel. Sorry, but I think Silicon
> Image is just being incompatible with itself here and the only
> thing that would help is a BIOS update for the controller(s).


Things aren't looking up, then. BIOS updates aren't really
Connectland's style. But thanks.

If someone can recommend a cheap PCI card with two or more IDE
ports, I'm all ears.

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Old 08-21-2007, 12:51 AM
Arno Wagner
 
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Default Re: Silicon Image 0680 + 3114 on same system ?

Previously Andre Majorel <cheney@halliburton.com> wrote:
> On 2007-08-17, Arno Wagner <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>> Previously Andre Majorel <cheney@halliburton.com> wrote:


>>> The I/O ports for the 0680 and 3114 overlap somewhat but maybe
>>> they're assigned dynamically ? I don't need the RAID BIOSes as
>>> I'm doing software RAID only.

>>
>>> 0680 :
>>> 9c00-9c0f : 0000:01:07.0
>>> a000-a003 : 0000:01:07.0
>>> a400-a407 : 0000:01:07.0
>>> a800-a803 : 0000:01:07.0
>>> ac00-ac07 : 0000:01:07.0

>>
>>> 3114 :
>>> 9800-980f : 0000:01:0d.0
>>> 9c00-9c03 : 0000:01:0d.0
>>> a000-a007 : 0000:01:0d.0
>>> a400-a403 : 0000:01:0d.0
>>> a800-a807 : 0000:01:0d.0

>>
>> Well, and there seems to be the problem. The ports are likely
>> allocated by the BIOS and not the kernel. Sorry, but I think Silicon
>> Image is just being incompatible with itself here and the only
>> thing that would help is a BIOS update for the controller(s).


> Things aren't looking up, then. BIOS updates aren't really
> Connectland's style. But thanks.


> If someone can recommend a cheap PCI card with two or more IDE
> ports, I'm all ears.


I like the Promise ultra 100/133 TX2. They have two poers each and
you can have more than one in a system, the BIOS of the one
frist activated will find the other cards.

I had a 4 disk RAID5 running with a pair of them for several years
under Linux. Never had problems. One thing though: IF you do
RAID with them, use only one disk per IDE channel, otherwise
they get painfully slow. This seems however to be a general
problem with IDE and not with this particular controller only.

Arno
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Old 08-24-2007, 12:35 PM
Andre Majorel
 
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Default Re: Silicon Image 0680 + 3114 on same system ?

On 2007-08-20, Arno Wagner <me@privacy.net> wrote:
> Previously Andre Majorel <cheney@halliburton.com> wrote:
>> On 2007-08-17, Arno Wagner <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>>> Previously Andre Majorel <cheney@halliburton.com> wrote:

>
>>>> The I/O ports for the 0680 and 3114 overlap somewhat but maybe
>>>> they're assigned dynamically ? I don't need the RAID BIOSes as
>>>> I'm doing software RAID only.
>>>
>>>> 0680 :
>>>> 9c00-9c0f : 0000:01:07.0
>>>> a000-a003 : 0000:01:07.0
>>>> a400-a407 : 0000:01:07.0
>>>> a800-a803 : 0000:01:07.0
>>>> ac00-ac07 : 0000:01:07.0
>>>
>>>> 3114 :
>>>> 9800-980f : 0000:01:0d.0
>>>> 9c00-9c03 : 0000:01:0d.0
>>>> a000-a007 : 0000:01:0d.0
>>>> a400-a403 : 0000:01:0d.0
>>>> a800-a807 : 0000:01:0d.0
>>>
>>> Well, and there seems to be the problem. The ports are likely
>>> allocated by the BIOS and not the kernel. Sorry, but I think Silicon
>>> Image is just being incompatible with itself here and the only
>>> thing that would help is a BIOS update for the controller(s).

>
>> Things aren't looking up, then. BIOS updates aren't really
>> Connectland's style. But thanks.

>
>> If someone can recommend a cheap PCI card with two or more IDE
>> ports, I'm all ears.

>
> I like the Promise ultra 100/133 TX2. They have two poers each and
> you can have more than one in a system, the BIOS of the one
> frist activated will find the other cards.
>
> I had a 4 disk RAID5 running with a pair of them for several years
> under Linux. Never had problems. One thing though: IF you do
> RAID with them, use only one disk per IDE channel, otherwise
> they get painfully slow. This seems however to be a general
> problem with IDE and not with this particular controller only.


Thanks. I got a Promise Ultra 133 TX2. The chip is a Promise
20269 (PCI ID 105A:4D69 rev 02).

Unfortunately, like the Connectland, it locks up the PC at
power-on unless you disable the on-board SiI 3114.

Curiously, the I/O ports are exactly the same as what is
reported for the SiI 0680 :

9c00-9c0f : 0000:01:07.0
a000-a003 : 0000:01:07.0
a400-a407 : 0000:01:07.0
a800-a803 : 0000:01:07.0
ac00-ac07 : 0000:01:07.0

I tried moving the Promise to a different PCI slot but it makes
no difference (the PC still freezes).

Sheesh. Wasn't PCI supposed to put an end to this kind of
problems ?

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Old 08-24-2007, 03:23 PM
Arno Wagner
 
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Default Re: Silicon Image 0680 + 3114 on same system ?

Previously Andre Majorel <cheney@halliburton.com> wrote:
> On 2007-08-20, Arno Wagner <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>> Previously Andre Majorel <cheney@halliburton.com> wrote:
>>> On 2007-08-17, Arno Wagner <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>>>> Previously Andre Majorel <cheney@halliburton.com> wrote:

>>
>>>>> The I/O ports for the 0680 and 3114 overlap somewhat but maybe
>>>>> they're assigned dynamically ? I don't need the RAID BIOSes as
>>>>> I'm doing software RAID only.
>>>>
>>>>> 0680 :
>>>>> 9c00-9c0f : 0000:01:07.0
>>>>> a000-a003 : 0000:01:07.0
>>>>> a400-a407 : 0000:01:07.0
>>>>> a800-a803 : 0000:01:07.0
>>>>> ac00-ac07 : 0000:01:07.0
>>>>
>>>>> 3114 :
>>>>> 9800-980f : 0000:01:0d.0
>>>>> 9c00-9c03 : 0000:01:0d.0
>>>>> a000-a007 : 0000:01:0d.0
>>>>> a400-a403 : 0000:01:0d.0
>>>>> a800-a807 : 0000:01:0d.0
>>>>
>>>> Well, and there seems to be the problem. The ports are likely
>>>> allocated by the BIOS and not the kernel. Sorry, but I think Silicon
>>>> Image is just being incompatible with itself here and the only
>>>> thing that would help is a BIOS update for the controller(s).

>>
>>> Things aren't looking up, then. BIOS updates aren't really
>>> Connectland's style. But thanks.

>>
>>> If someone can recommend a cheap PCI card with two or more IDE
>>> ports, I'm all ears.

>>
>> I like the Promise ultra 100/133 TX2. They have two poers each and
>> you can have more than one in a system, the BIOS of the one
>> frist activated will find the other cards.
>>
>> I had a 4 disk RAID5 running with a pair of them for several years
>> under Linux. Never had problems. One thing though: IF you do
>> RAID with them, use only one disk per IDE channel, otherwise
>> they get painfully slow. This seems however to be a general
>> problem with IDE and not with this particular controller only.


> Thanks. I got a Promise Ultra 133 TX2. The chip is a Promise
> 20269 (PCI ID 105A:4D69 rev 02).


> Unfortunately, like the Connectland, it locks up the PC at
> power-on unless you disable the on-board SiI 3114.


> Curiously, the I/O ports are exactly the same as what is
> reported for the SiI 0680 :


> 9c00-9c0f : 0000:01:07.0
> a000-a003 : 0000:01:07.0
> a400-a407 : 0000:01:07.0
> a800-a803 : 0000:01:07.0
> ac00-ac07 : 0000:01:07.0


> I tried moving the Promise to a different PCI slot but it makes
> no difference (the PC still freezes).


> Sheesh. Wasn't PCI supposed to put an end to this kind of
> problems ?


Yes, indeed. I suspect that the onboard BIOS was programmed
by somebody pretty incompetent. Would nto be the first instance
of that.

Arno
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Old 08-25-2007, 07:38 AM
Folkert Rienstra
 
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Default Re: Silicon Image 0680 + 3114 on same system ?

Arno Wagner wrote in message news:5j87uaF3s8kaaU1@mid.individual.net
> Previously Andre Majorel <cheney@halliburton.com> wrote:
> > On 2007-08-20, Arno Wagner <me@privacy.net> wrote:
> > > Previously Andre Majorel <cheney@halliburton.com> wrote:
> > > > On 2007-08-17, Arno Wagner <me@privacy.net> wrote:
> > > > > Previously Andre Majorel <cheney@halliburton.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > The I/O ports for the 0680 and 3114 overlap somewhat but maybe
> > > > > > they're assigned dynamically ? I don't need the RAID BIOSes as
> > > > > > I'm doing software RAID only.
> > > > >
> > > > > > 0680 :
> > > > > > 9c00-9c0f : 0000:01:07.0
> > > > > > a000-a003 : 0000:01:07.0
> > > > > > a400-a407 : 0000:01:07.0
> > > > > > a800-a803 : 0000:01:07.0
> > > > > > ac00-ac07 : 0000:01:07.0
> > > > >
> > > > > > 3114 :
> > > > > > 9800-980f : 0000:01:0d.0
> > > > > > 9c00-9c03 : 0000:01:0d.0
> > > > > > a000-a007 : 0000:01:0d.0
> > > > > > a400-a403 : 0000:01:0d.0
> > > > > > a800-a807 : 0000:01:0d.0
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, and there seems to be the problem. The ports are likely
> > > > > allocated by the BIOS and not the kernel. Sorry, but I think Silicon
> > > > > Image is just being incompatible with itself here and the only
> > > > > thing that would help is a BIOS update for the controller(s).
> > >
> > > > Things aren't looking up, then. BIOS updates aren't really
> > > > Connectland's style. But thanks.
> > >
> > > > If someone can recommend a cheap PCI card with two or more IDE
> > > > ports, I'm all ears.
> > >
> > > I like the Promise ultra 100/133 TX2. They have two poers each and
> > > you can have more than one in a system, the BIOS of the one frist
> > > activated will find the other cards.
> > >
> > > I had a 4 disk RAID5 running with a pair of them for several years
> > > under Linux. Never had problems. One thing though: IF you do
> > > RAID with them, use only one disk per IDE channel, otherwise
> > > they get painfully slow. This seems however to be a general
> > > problem with IDE and not with this particular controller only.

>
> > Thanks. I got a Promise Ultra 133 TX2. The chip is a Promise
> > 20269 (PCI ID 105A:4D69 rev 02).

>
> > Unfortunately, like the Connectland, it locks up the PC at
> > power-on unless you disable the on-board SiI 3114.

>
> > Curiously, the I/O ports are exactly the same as what is
> > reported for the SiI 0680 :

>
> > 9c00-9c0f : 0000:01:07.0
> > a000-a003 : 0000:01:07.0
> > a400-a407 : 0000:01:07.0
> > a800-a803 : 0000:01:07.0
> > ac00-ac07 : 0000:01:07.0

>
> > I tried moving the Promise to a different PCI slot but it makes
> > no difference (the PC still freezes).

>
> > Sheesh. Wasn't PCI supposed to put an end to this kind of problems ?


> Yes, indeed. I suspect that the onboard BIOS was programmed
> by somebody pretty incompetent.


Someone like yourself, babblebot?

> Would nto be the first instance of that.


Pity about that ...

> > > > Sorry, but I think Silicon Image is just being incompatible with
> > > > itself here and the only thing that would help is a BIOS update
> > > > for the controller(s).


.... earlier. Incompetent babblebot.


>
> Arno

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