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Old 07-24-2007, 07:23 PM
orakons@gmail.com
 
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Default Reg. travelstar djsa-220

I've saved a disk from a broken T21. I've put the disk into an
external USB housing.

Now - when I connect the disk to any PC - the PC starts to search
through the disk. I wonder if the disk still is recognized as a master
disk. I can't find any visible jumper settings on the disk.

Where do I change this??

Regards, Henrik

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Old 07-24-2007, 07:55 PM
Arno Wagner
 
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Default Re: Reg. travelstar djsa-220

Previously orakons@gmail.com wrote:
> I've saved a disk from a broken T21. I've put the disk into an
> external USB housing.


> Now - when I connect the disk to any PC - the PC starts to search
> through the disk.


Huh? What do you mean?

> I wonder if the disk still is recognized as a master
> disk. I can't find any visible jumper settings on the disk.


What do you mean by ''master disk''?

> Where do I change this??


Maybe post the disk type? Without that info it is pretty hard
to help you...

Arno

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Old 07-24-2007, 09:34 PM
Frazer Jolly Goodfellow
 
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Default Re: Reg. travelstar djsa-220

orakons@gmail.com wrote in
news:1185301419.780192.60720@19g2000hsx.googlegrou ps.com:

> I've saved a disk from a broken T21. I've put the disk into an
> external USB housing.

Am I right in guessing that a T21 is a Lenovo/IBM Thinkpad laptop?

> Now - when I connect the disk to any PC - the PC starts to
> search through the disk.

USB drives are, by default, treated as removable media by Windows XP.
By default Windows XP searches any removable media it encounters,
looking for an autorun.inf file to excute.

> I wonder if the disk still is
> recognized as a master disk. I can't find any visible jumper
> settings on the disk.

A PATA laptop drive will be the Master device on an IDE channel with
no jumpers fitted - which is the default. Your USB housing will be
quite happy with the disk (un-)jumpered as it is.

> Where do I change this??

All of which makes your question a non sequitur - you appear to be
confused. What is the problem you are trying to resolve?
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Old 07-25-2007, 12:39 AM
Arno Wagner
 
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Default Re: Reg. travelstar djsa-220

Previously Arno Wagner <me@privacy.net> wrote:
> Previously orakons@gmail.com wrote:
>> I've saved a disk from a broken T21. I've put the disk into an
>> external USB housing.


>> Now - when I connect the disk to any PC - the PC starts to search
>> through the disk.


> Huh? What do you mean?


>> I wonder if the disk still is recognized as a master
>> disk. I can't find any visible jumper settings on the disk.


> What do you mean by ''master disk''?


>> Where do I change this??


> Maybe post the disk type? Without that info it is pretty hard
> to help you...


Oops, sorry. Somehow I overlooked the subject. Ok, a djsa-220
seems to be a Travelstar 20GN. The one is an ATA disk and
it can be set to IDE master or IDE slave. For some USB enclosures
the disk needs to be set to master (it will not show up otherwise)
for others, it does not matter. In the second case it will not have
any influence visible over the USB connection.

BTW, it does have jumpers, see here:
http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/djsa/djsajum.htm

Arno
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Old 07-25-2007, 11:16 PM
Folkert Rienstra
 
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Default Re: Reg. travelstar djsa-220

"Arno Wagner" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message news:5gn08pF3efudvU1@mid.individual.net
> Previously orakons@gmail.com wrote:
> > I've saved a disk from a broken T21. I've put the disk into an
> > external USB housing.

>
> > Now - when I connect the disk to any PC - the PC starts to search
> > through the disk.


> Huh? What do you mean?


Having a problem with english, babblehead?

>
> > I wonder if the disk still is recognized as a master disk.
> > I can't find any visible jumper settings on the disk.


> What do you mean by ''master disk''?


Still having a problem with english, babblehead?

>
> > Where do I change this??


> Maybe post the disk type?
> Without that info it is pretty hard to help you...


That's usually the idea, with troll posts, babblehead.
Did you bother to read the subject title.
Would that give you a clue.

>
> Arno

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Old 07-26-2007, 05:16 AM
John Turco
 
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Default Re: Reg. travelstar djsa-220

Frazer Jolly Goodfellow wrote:
>
> orakons@gmail.com wrote in
> news:1185301419.780192.60720@19g2000hsx.googlegrou ps.com:
>
> > I've saved a disk from a broken T21. I've put the disk into an
> > external USB housing.

> Am I right in guessing that a T21 is a Lenovo/IBM Thinkpad laptop?
>
> > Now - when I connect the disk to any PC - the PC starts to
> > search through the disk.

> USB drives are, by default, treated as removable media by Windows XP.
> By default Windows XP searches any removable media it encounters,
> looking for an autorun.inf file to excute.


<edited, for brevity>

Hello, Frazer:

I find this behavior ****ed annoying! Is there anything that can be
done, to eliminate it?


Cordially,
John Turco <jtur@concentric.net>
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  #7  
Old 07-26-2007, 05:51 AM
Michael Cecil
 
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Default Re: Reg. travelstar djsa-220

On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 23:16:25 -0500, John Turco <jtur@concentric.net>
wrote:

>Frazer Jolly Goodfellow wrote:
>>
>> orakons@gmail.com wrote in
>> news:1185301419.780192.60720@19g2000hsx.googlegrou ps.com:
>>
>> > I've saved a disk from a broken T21. I've put the disk into an
>> > external USB housing.

>> Am I right in guessing that a T21 is a Lenovo/IBM Thinkpad laptop?
>>
>> > Now - when I connect the disk to any PC - the PC starts to
>> > search through the disk.

>> USB drives are, by default, treated as removable media by Windows XP.
>> By default Windows XP searches any removable media it encounters,
>> looking for an autorun.inf file to excute.

>
><edited, for brevity>
>
>Hello, Frazer:
>
>I find this behavior ****ed annoying! Is there anything that can be
>done, to eliminate it?


Can't you just disable autorun with some tweaking program such as TweakUI
from MS?
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Old 07-26-2007, 05:59 AM
Arno Wagner
 
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Default Re: Reg. travelstar djsa-220

Previously Michael Cecil <macecil@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 23:16:25 -0500, John Turco <jtur@concentric.net>
> wrote:


>>Frazer Jolly Goodfellow wrote:
>>>
>>> orakons@gmail.com wrote in
>>> news:1185301419.780192.60720@19g2000hsx.googlegrou ps.com:
>>>
>>> > I've saved a disk from a broken T21. I've put the disk into an
>>> > external USB housing.
>>> Am I right in guessing that a T21 is a Lenovo/IBM Thinkpad laptop?
>>>
>>> > Now - when I connect the disk to any PC - the PC starts to
>>> > search through the disk.
>>> USB drives are, by default, treated as removable media by Windows XP.
>>> By default Windows XP searches any removable media it encounters,
>>> looking for an autorun.inf file to excute.

>>
>><edited, for brevity>
>>
>>Hello, Frazer:
>>
>>I find this behavior ****ed annoying! Is there anything that can be
>>done, to eliminate it?


> Can't you just disable autorun with some tweaking program such as TweakUI
> from MS?


But then you will not get all the pretty pictures when you plug it in!

I believe holding down shift on insertion also helps. At least for
CDROMs.

Arno
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Old 07-26-2007, 04:31 PM
Frazer Jolly Goodfellow
 
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Default Re: Reg. travelstar djsa-220

John Turco <jtur@concentric.net> wrote in
news:46A82019.75A8C4F7@concentric.net:

> Frazer Jolly Goodfellow wrote:
>>
>> orakons@gmail.com wrote in
>> news:1185301419.780192.60720@19g2000hsx.googlegrou ps.com:
>>
>> > I've saved a disk from a broken T21. I've put the disk into
>> > an external USB housing.

>> Am I right in guessing that a T21 is a Lenovo/IBM Thinkpad
>> laptop?
>>
>> > Now - when I connect the disk to any PC - the PC starts to
>> > search through the disk.

>> USB drives are, by default, treated as removable media by
>> Windows XP. By default Windows XP searches any removable media
>> it encounters, looking for an autorun.inf file to excute.

>
> <edited, for brevity>
>
> Hello, Frazer:
>
> I find this behavior ****ed annoying! Is there anything that can
> be done, to eliminate it?
>


John, there are various solutions, most aimed at CDs but equally
applicable to most removable media.

The MS solution is here:
http://support.microsoft.com/KB/126025


Cribbed from www.annoyances.org:

Solution 1
If you hold down the Shift key when inserting the CD, the autorun
is bypassed.

Solution 2
Right-click on the drive icon for your CD drive, CD recorder, or
DVD drive, and select Properties.
Choose the AutoPlay tab, and choose the desired action for each
type of CD. For example, choose Music CD, then click Select an
action to perform, then select Take no action.

Solution 3
Obtain and install TweakUI (part of the PowerToys for Windows XP
package), and then start TweakUI.
Expand the My Computer branch, then the AutoPlay branch, and then
select Drives.
Turn off the checkbox next to each drive letter for which you want
AutoPlay disabled.
TweakUI can be found here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/d...ys/xppowertoys.
mspx

Solution 4
Run the Registry Editor (REGEDIT.EXE).
Navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Servic es
\Cdrom.
Double-click the Autorun value, and type 0 for its value. (If it's
not there, create it by selecting Edit -> New -> DWORD Value, and
typing "Autorun" for its name.)
You may have to log out and then log back in for this change to
take effect.

Note: With this solution, Windows will no longer be notified when
you insert a new CD. To make sure the correct icon and title for
the current CD are displayed in My Computer and Explorer, press F5
to refresh the window.
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Old 07-26-2007, 11:17 PM
Folkert Rienstra
 
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Default Re: Reg. travelstar djsa-220

"Frazer Jolly Goodfellow" <no-spam@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:Xns9977DB9D8E9EAfrz@62.253.170.163
> orakons@gmail.com wrote in news:1185301419.780192.60720@19g2000hsx.googlegrou ps.com:
>
> > I've saved a disk from a broken T21. I've put the disk into an
> > external USB housing.


> Am I right in guessing that a T21 is a Lenovo/IBM Thinkpad laptop?


Does it matter?

>
> > Now - when I connect the disk to any PC - the PC starts to
> > search through the disk.


> USB drives are, by default, treated as removable media by Windows XP.


I set my internal IDE drive as removable but that didn't make it auto in-
sert automatically. Unfortunately my IDE driver doesn't support setting
autoinsert for IDE hard drives so I'm not able to explore that further.

> By default Windows XP searches any removable media it encounters,
> looking for an autorun.inf file to excute.


So how deep does this search go exactly, isn't that confined to the root?
What if you have multiple partitions. What if you have multiple autorun.infs.

If it only needs to find one then the solution is easy: give it what it wants.
Another solution might be to set the drive as fixed if it isn't really used
as removable media. Provided then that the driver actually allows that.

Btw, any comments on:
"Note: Autorun.inf files are not supported under Microsoft Windows XP for drives that return DRIVE_REMOVABLE from GetDriveType."
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/Aa969330.aspx

>
> > I wonder if the disk still is recognized as a master disk.


> > I can't find any visible jumper settings on the disk.


No! Really?

> A PATA laptop drive will be the Master device on an IDE channel with
> no jumpers fitted - which is the default. Your USB housing will be quite
> happy with the disk (un-)jumpered as it is.
>
> > Where do I change this??


Where the drive label says to change it, where else.

>
> All of which makes your question a non sequitur -


As it was supposed to.

> you appear to be confused. What is the problem you are trying to resolve?


That it's working as supposed to, obviously.

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