Reburbished drive is BETTER than the NEW ONE?? wtf

I had one of those Seagate 7200.10 320GB drive made in CHINA, it made
that horrible CHIRP and other noises. I had it replaced, seagate sent
me a 'refurbished' drive from SNIGAPORE and it works VERY WELL.
Even benchmarks are 5%-10% BETTER!!???

Seems odd that a REFURBISHED drive would work so much better than a
new one.

I think it's the fact that mine is now from SINGAPORE and not China. I
heard some terrible stories about the drives made in China too.


Oh well, I guess?

Crackles McFarly wrote:
> I had one of those Seagate 7200.10 320GB drive made in CHINA, it made
> that horrible CHIRP and other noises. I had it replaced, seagate sent
> me a 'refurbished' drive from SNIGAPORE and it works VERY WELL.
> Even benchmarks are 5%-10% BETTER!!???
>
> Seems odd that a REFURBISHED drive would work so much better than a
> new one.
>
> I think it's the fact that mine is now from SINGAPORE and not China. I
> heard some terrible stories about the drives made in China too.
>
>
> Oh well, I guess?

It's not particularly surprising, or even unusual.

1. Refurbished hard drives aren't repaired. They're just tested.
Typically, the testing is the same as for a new drive, or slightly more
stringent, as this same drive passed QC the first time it left the
factory. That means that either the refurb had nothing wrong with it
when it got returned, or the QC tests aren't good enough to catch
whatever was wrong with it. Either way, that means that aside from the
way shorter warranty, the refurb is as good as the new one -- which
isn't necessarily saying much.

2. Typically RMA policy for all the major manufacturers is to send out
the same model or a newer one that's as close in specs as the original,
if they don't have one in stock. When there's a shortage or issue with
a particular model, it's not unheard of for a company to send out a
better model.

3. Consider that the one you returned wasn't running at 100%. Before it
went down for the count, the problems were probably affecting its
performance. If the replacement *is* working properly, you're comparing
a drive working to spec, vs one that was having to compensate for bad
reads and writes.

-------------------------------
MCheu

hi
seagate SNIGAPORE is better than see gate CHINA.
when we shop for Seagate hard drive, we do not purchase any other
seagate hard drive that is not made in SNIGAPORE because accounding to
our study seagate SNIGAPORE is more reliable and does not get damaged
has made in china does. we have used a seagate hard drive made in
SNIGAPORE for 6 years 3 monrh now without any problems. wither the
hard drive is refurbished or not made in SNIGAPORE is far better than
made in china


isaac okoye
information rules the world
www.finditall100free.ds4a.com/Shopping.htm

"Crackles McFarly" <IrelandSux@ireland.sux> wrote in message news:6v0ia3pk53cgq5lr5as8t063fdnj0urkvo@bbb.org
> I had one of those Seagate 7200.10 320GB drive made in CHINA, it made
> that horrible CHIRP and other noises. I had it replaced, seagate sent
> me a 'refurbished' drive from SNIGAPORE and it works VERY WELL.
> Even benchmarks are 5%-10% BETTER!!???

> Seems odd that a REFURBISHED drive would work so much better than a
> new one.

Oh, and why is that.

>
> I think it's the fact that mine is now from SINGAPORE and not China.

Of course, that's it. How clever of you.

Obviously the fact that the refurbished drive was tested extensively
before it was given the green flag and the "new one" wasn't has got
nothing to do with it.

> I heard some terrible stories about the drives made in China too.

And they are all true.
That's why all the major manufacturers make their drives there.

>
>
> Oh well, I guess?

Guessing makes your head hurt.

"MCheu" <mpcheu@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:K-mdnU6iy8K3jzTbnZ2dnUVZ_uuqnZ2d@golden.net
> Crackles McFarly wrote:
> > I had one of those Seagate 7200.10 320GB drive made in CHINA, it made
> > that horrible CHIRP and other noises. I had it replaced, seagate sent
> > me a 'refurbished' drive from SNIGAPORE and it works VERY WELL.
> > Even benchmarks are 5%-10% BETTER!!???
> >
> > Seems odd that a REFURBISHED drive would work so much better than a
> > new one.
> >
> > I think it's the fact that mine is now from SINGAPORE and not China.
> > I heard some terrible stories about the drives made in China too.
> >
> >
> > Oh well, I guess?
>
> It's not particularly surprising, or even unusual.

> 1. Refurbished hard drives aren't repaired.

Oh? You're saying that they lie?
(Not to say that refurbished necessarily means 'repaired').

> They're just tested.

They're that too.

> Typically, the testing is the same as for a new drive,

Not very likely.

> or slightly more stringent,

> as this same drive passed QC the first time it left the factory.

> That means that either the refurb had nothing wrong with it
> when it got returned, or the QC tests aren't good enough to catch
> whatever was wrong with it.

> Either way, that means that aside from the way shorter warranty,

Actually, the warranty period is exactly the same as for the one
that you returned. It's transferred to the refurbished drive.

> the refurb is as good as the new one --

Hopefully not.

> which isn't necessarily saying much.

Exactly.

>
> 2. Typically RMA policy for all the major manufacturers is to send out
> the same model or a newer one that's as close in specs as the original, if
> they don't have one in stock. When there's a shortage or issue with a par-
ticular model, it's not unheard of for a company to send out a better model.
>
> 3. Consider that the one you returned wasn't running at 100%. Before it
> went down for the count, the problems were probably affecting its
> performance. If the replacement *is* working properly, you're comparing
> a drive working to spec, vs one that was having to compensate for bad
> reads and writes.
>
> -------------------------------
> MCheu

On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 15:56:50 -0700, isaac4all
<finditall100free@yahoo.com> wrote:

>hi
>seagate SNIGAPORE is better than see gate CHINA.
>when we shop for Seagate hard drive, we do not purchase any other
>seagate hard drive that is not made in SNIGAPORE because accounding to
>our study seagate SNIGAPORE is more reliable and does not get damaged
>has made in china does. we have used a seagate hard drive made in
>SNIGAPORE for 6 years 3 monrh now without any problems. wither the
>hard drive is refurbished or not made in SNIGAPORE is far better than
>made in china
>
>
>isaac okoye
>information rules the world
>www.finditall100free.ds4a.com/Shopping.htm

Almost everything made in china is garbage these days.

On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 16:31:38 -0400, Crackles McFarly
<IrelandSux@ireland.sux> wrote:

>I had one of those Seagate 7200.10 320GB drive made in CHINA, it made
>that horrible CHIRP and other noises. I had it replaced, seagate sent
>me a 'refurbished' drive from SNIGAPORE and it works VERY WELL.
>Even benchmarks are 5%-10% BETTER!!???
>
>Seems odd that a REFURBISHED drive would work so much better than a
>new one.
>
>I think it's the fact that mine is now from SINGAPORE and not China. I
>heard some terrible stories about the drives made in China too.
>
>
>Oh well, I guess?


You have a sample size of one each. Realize what that
means.

On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 01:04:13 +0200, "Folkert Rienstra"
<see_reply-to@myweb.nl> put finger to keyboard and composed:

>Actually, the warranty period is exactly the same as for the one
>that you returned. It's transferred to the refurbished drive.

In 2003 or 2004 I purchased a Seagate ST3120026A drive with either a 2
or 3 year warranty which would have expired in Aug 2006. About a year
later (Jan 2005) I received an identical replacement with a 5 year
warranty that expires in Dec 2009, ie the new warranty is for the full
5 years, not 5 - 1.

Has Seagate's policy changed since then?

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

isaac4all wrote:
> hi
> seagate SNIGAPORE is better than see gate CHINA.
> when we shop for Seagate hard drive, we do not purchase any other
> seagate hard drive that is not made in SNIGAPORE because accounding to
> our study seagate SNIGAPORE is more reliable and does not get damaged
> has made in china does. we have used a seagate hard drive made in
> SNIGAPORE for 6 years 3 monrh now without any problems. wither the
> hard drive is refurbished or not made in SNIGAPORE is far better than
> made in china
>
>
> isaac okoye
> information rules the world
> www.finditall100free.ds4a.com/Shopping.htm
>

Well now that you have fixed your hard drive problems you should
concentrate on your broken keyboard.

"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote in message news:f1bja39qutqiap11g9b6cf3lqam5p8fb87@4ax.com
> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 01:04:13 +0200, "Folkert Rienstra" <see_reply-to@myweb.nl> put finger to keyboard and composed:
>
> > Actually, the warranty period is exactly the same as for the one
> > that you returned. It's transferred to the refurbished drive.

> In 2003 or 2004 I purchased a Seagate ST3120026A drive with either a 2
> or 3 year warranty which would have expired in Aug 2006.

You make little sense.

> About a year later (Jan 2005) I received an identical replacement with
> a 5 year warranty that expires in Dec 2009, ie the new warranty is for
> the full 5 years,

> not 5 - 1.

What's with the minus 1? You had 19 months of warranty left.
That should have been the new warranty on your replacement drive.
Otherwise you would be able to extend your warranty forever, every
time you break your drive and send it in for warranty.

>
> Has Seagate's policy changed since then?
(what makes you think that that was policy?)

You mean, did Seagate give you a lifelong warranty on your drives?
What do you think. I think you got extremely lucky.

>
> - Franc Zabkar