>>> <Tony of Dyker Beach> wrote:
>>>> Do you have a URL for this "Athena?"
>>>>
>>>> Would not even know what to search for.
>> "Timothy Daniels" <SpamBucket@NoSpamPlease.biz> wrote in message
>> news:4818f645$0$7034$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>> Athena Power seems to have changed its website since last
>>> night. Now the only mobile racks with a bottom fan is this for
>>> SATA: http://athenapower.com/sub/mr136b.htm
>>> and this one with temperature monitoring for IDE:
>>> http://athenapower.com/sub/mr999atn.htm
>>>
>>> All models are aided by the case and power supply exhaust
>>> fans, and in case of a failure of the mobile rack fan, air is still
>>> drawn through the tray. Such are the advantages of case fans
>>> which blow air out the back, keeping the case interior at an air
>>> pressure lower than ambient.
>>>
>>> *TimDaniels*
> Previously Anna <myname@myisp.net> wrote:
>> Tony:
>> Take a look here...
>> http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16817123302
>> the model we use.
>> and here...
>> http://www.athenapower.com
>> and click on "Mobile Rack"
>
>> You might also want to access the alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt
>> newsgroup and access the recent thread on "Re: Mobile racks and trays".
>> Anna
"Arno Wagner" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:67sntqF2q8sn9U1@mid.individual.net...
> I have to say that I had 2 of these for 4 drives each. The cooling
> was completely insufficient and the backplane was manufactured
> shoddily enough that I got SATA bus errors because of imprecise
> trace lenghts. This was admittedly 3 years ago. I take it these
> two issues are fixed in the 1 drive variant?
>
> Arno
Arno:
I assume you've seen my posts in the pc-homebuilt newsgroup referred to
above re the Athena removable HDD mobile rack.
As far as mobile racks designed to handle two or more HDDs...
During the relatively short time we worked with that unit we didn't
experience any problems - heat-related or otherwise. I'm aware of one other
user who's been using that unit for some time now and he's satisfied with
it.
Anna
><Tony of Dyker Beach> wrote:
>> Do you have a URL for this "Athena?"
>>
>> Would not even know what to search for.
>
>
> Athena Power seems to have changed its website since last
>night. Now the only mobile racks with a bottom fan is this for
>SATA: http://athenapower.com/sub/mr136b.htm
>and this one with temperature monitoring for IDE:
>http://athenapower.com/sub/mr999atn.htm
>
> All models are aided by the case and power supply exhaust
>fans, and in case of a failure of the mobile rack fan, air is still
>drawn through the tray. Such are the advantages of case fans
>which blow air out the back, keeping the case interior at an air
>pressure lower than ambient.
For eight years now we have 8 machines that are equipped with DataPort
Racks and trays. Just passive cooling and they have worked liked
Champs. They also cost a lot more those days.
I should hasten to add that these drives are only used to clone the C:
drive back and forth. So they may be only on for 10-30 minutes. But
even in the room where in the summer the temperature is always in the
high nineties. Never a problem.
I have (1) and (3) in use and am very satisfied. They are compatible to
each other, meaning, that you can swap the disks between the internal
swap-frame and the external enclosure. Build quality is high. The
external is aluminium without fan at all, the internal has a small fan,
which I, surprisingley do not really hear (in my pretty silent case).
Andreas M. said the following on 5/2/2008 5:40 PM:
> Am 30.04.2008 00:48 ken k wrote
>
>> I have been thinking about using a mobile rack and tray system to swap
>> out hard drives which store data, such as my music and video DVD
>
> You may also want to check out these:
>
> 1)
> http://www.raidsonic.de/en/pages/pro..._objectID=4686
> and
> 2)
> http://www.raidsonic.de/en/pages/pro..._objectID=4589
>
> or
> 3)
> http://www.raidsonic.de/en/pages/pro..._objectID=4255
>
>
> I have (1) and (3) in use and am very satisfied. They are compatible to
> each other, meaning, that you can swap the disks between the internal
> swap-frame and the external enclosure. Build quality is high. The
> external is aluminium without fan at all, the internal has a small fan,
> which I, surprisingley do not really hear (in my pretty silent case).
>
>
I have recently seen Icy Dock on sale. It is apparently made or
distributed by the same company. Do you have any experience with the
Icy Dock brand with relation to reliability and durability?
> Andreas M. said the following on 5/2/2008 5:40 PM:
>> Am 30.04.2008 00:48 ken k wrote
>>
>>> I have been thinking about using a mobile rack and tray system to swap
>>> out hard drives which store data, such as my music and video DVD
>>
>> You may also want to check out these:
>>
>> 1)
>> http://www.raidsonic.de/en/pages/pro..._objectID=4686
>> and
>> 2)
>> http://www.raidsonic.de/en/pages/pro..._objectID=4589
>> or
>> 3)
>> http://www.raidsonic.de/en/pages/pro..._objectID=4255 I
>> have (1) and (3) in use and am very satisfied. They are compatible to
>> each other, meaning, that you can swap the disks between the internal
>> swap-frame and the external enclosure. Build quality is high. The
>> external is aluminium without fan at all, the internal has a small fan,
>> which I, surprisingley do not really hear (in my pretty silent case).
> I have recently seen Icy Dock on sale. It is apparently made or
> distributed by the same company. Do you have any experience with the Icy
> Dock brand with relation to reliability and durability?
>
> Thanks
> Ken K
Ken:
I believe the mobile rack (removable HDD device) Andreas mentions is the Icy
Dock model available here in the U.S.
When we were experimenting with a variety of makes & models of mobile racks
designed for SATA HDDs a few years ago we did use a couple of Icy Dock
models - the MR123 SK-1. It's all-aluminum with a small (about 38mm) fan in
the rear. It was well-built (as Andreas has mentioned) and performed quite
well as I recall, however, the Icy Dock was equipped with the usual keylock
affair and we were particularly seeking a mobile rack device preferably
*without* a keylock mechanism (because of our work we're more-or-less
constantly inserting/removing the HDD trays to & from the rack) we
eventually settled on the Athena MR-125 (all-plastic) model which has a
sizeable 80mm fan bottom-mounted on the rack. The Athena has a simple
push-button lever device that makes it very simple for inserting/removing
the tray as well as activating/deactivating the HDD from the system.
We eventually sold the two Icy Dock models to one of our customers and AFAIK
he was quite satisfied with the device which I believe is still in use
today.
If I'm not mistaken, haven't I responded to one of your queries in this or
another newsgroup re mobile racks?
Anna
Anna said the following on 5/3/2008 9:09 AM:
>> Andreas M. said the following on 5/2/2008 5:40 PM:
>>> Am 30.04.2008 00:48 ken k wrote
>>>
>>>> I have been thinking about using a mobile rack and tray system to swap
>>>> out hard drives which store data, such as my music and video DVD
>>> You may also want to check out these:
>>>
>>> 1)
>>> http://www.raidsonic.de/en/pages/pro..._objectID=4686
>>> and
>>> 2)
>>> http://www.raidsonic.de/en/pages/pro..._objectID=4589
>>> or
>>> 3)
>>> http://www.raidsonic.de/en/pages/pro..._objectID=4255 I
>>> have (1) and (3) in use and am very satisfied. They are compatible to
>>> each other, meaning, that you can swap the disks between the internal
>>> swap-frame and the external enclosure. Build quality is high. The
>>> external is aluminium without fan at all, the internal has a small fan,
>>> which I, surprisingley do not really hear (in my pretty silent case).
>
>
>> I have recently seen Icy Dock on sale. It is apparently made or
>> distributed by the same company. Do you have any experience with the Icy
>> Dock brand with relation to reliability and durability?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Ken K
>
>
> Ken:
> I believe the mobile rack (removable HDD device) Andreas mentions is the Icy
> Dock model available here in the U.S.
>
> When we were experimenting with a variety of makes & models of mobile racks
> designed for SATA HDDs a few years ago we did use a couple of Icy Dock
> models - the MR123 SK-1. It's all-aluminum with a small (about 38mm) fan in
> the rear. It was well-built (as Andreas has mentioned) and performed quite
> well as I recall, however, the Icy Dock was equipped with the usual keylock
> affair and we were particularly seeking a mobile rack device preferably
> *without* a keylock mechanism (because of our work we're more-or-less
> constantly inserting/removing the HDD trays to & from the rack) we
> eventually settled on the Athena MR-125 (all-plastic) model which has a
> sizeable 80mm fan bottom-mounted on the rack. The Athena has a simple
> push-button lever device that makes it very simple for inserting/removing
> the tray as well as activating/deactivating the HDD from the system.
>
> We eventually sold the two Icy Dock models to one of our customers and AFAIK
> he was quite satisfied with the device which I believe is still in use
> today.
>
> If I'm not mistaken, haven't I responded to one of your queries in this or
> another newsgroup re mobile racks?
> Anna
>
>
Yes, you have. I posted either here or pc-hardware, did not receive a
response initially, posted in the other group, and then received
responses in both places.
WRT the lock, a friend has just tied a key onto the handle of each of
his Kingwin trays so that they are handy. I think I will purchase teh
Athena. The price is difficult to beat and I can use the "extra racks
in other computers to allow for easy transfer of large files.
Thanks again and apologies about the double post,
KK
On 30 Apr 2008 01:03:52 GMT, Arno Wagner <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>This would mean that the cooling is mainly by airflow.
>Not surprising.
>
>Arno
I had LianLi plastick racks and they did have a small fan at the back
of the cage to help cool but the fan was so small that I doubt it
helped much. I disabled the fan and still had no issues with any of
the HDD's I installed into them and I used them as main OS drives too.
LianLi has aluminum racks too and I suppose they might be better as
the aluminum acts like a heatsink.
On 1 May 2008 02:23:54 GMT, Arno Wagner <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>I have to say that I had 2 of these for 4 drives each. The cooling
>was completely insufficient and the backplane was manufactured
>shoddily enough that I got SATA bus errors because of imprecise
>trace lenghts. This was admittedly 3 years ago. I take it these
>two issues are fixed in the 1 drive variant?
>
>Arno
Lian LI makes good HDD racks. They make good computer cases too. Like
I said in my previous post, I used Lian Li racks for quite some time
(IDE and not the ones listed below) and never had an issue with them.
I don't use them any more because I used them as a trade with a
friend, but he is using them with no issues either.
On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:14:53 +0100, "Squeeze" <rubberduck@duckies.au>
wrote:
>Personally I would look for a tray with a front air intake and back-half
>bottom-and-top air outlets, so the case fan(s) can serve as alternate tray
>fans.
Yea, like tyhe Lian Li racks. I disabled the fan on mine and still
never had any heat issues and they were used as main OS HDD's too and
not just for back up. I checked the temp on tyhem and they were a few
degrees hotter than if they were installed with no rack but nothing
critical.