Previously Timothy Daniels <SpamBucket@nospamplease.biz> wrote:
> "Eric Gisin" wrote:
>> Even I know there is generic disk imaging on Linux.
> If you're talking about dd (i.e. "delete data", or "destroy disk"),
> it's also genericly slow because it copies each byte in each sector
> whether or not it contains any data. See:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_(Unix)
In addition, doing sector images has some border conditions, that are
not allways easy to meet or obvious. This is strictly a last-ditch
method. Besides, proper backup also allows incremential backup and
verify, something dd/dd_rescue/cat does not support.
Previously Franc Zabkar <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Jun 2008 22:34:38 GMT, House Of The White Rose
> <no@email.invalid> put finger to keyboard and composed:
>>Arno Wagner <me@privacy.net> wrote in news:6ask5aF36828fU1
>>@mid.individual.net:
>>
>>> There is a Windows-port and it should work. Or are Windows
>>> users only able to click and not to type?
>>>
>>> Arno
>>>
>>
>>It's not that we are unable to it's just that we left Dos behind many moons
>>ago and want to move forwards and not backwards. Why is it that Linux geeks
>>think they are better just because they have remember a million or so text
>>commands? **** that ****.
> One of the reasons I'm sticking with Win98SE is that Win XP doesn't
> give me the control that DOS does when the GUI breaks. What do Windows
> 2K/XP/Vista users do with their clicker when that happens?
> Just look at some of the posters in this forum. I can almost see their
> blank stares when someone suggests that they resort to the command
> line to troubleshoot their systems. I reckon some of them would fall
> down in a screaming heap if they weren't presented with a clickable
> solution.
A GUI is neither more powerful, nor easier to use than a commandline.
It just gives that impression. The best comment on GUI vs.
commandline is still this one:
What I saw in the Xerox PARC technology was the caveman interface, you
point and you grunt. A massive winding down, regressing away from
language, in order to address the technological nervousness of the
user. Users wanted to be infantilized, to return to a pre-linguistic
condition in the using of computers, and the Xerox PARC technology's
primary advantage was that it allowed users to address computers in a
pre-linguistic way. This was to my mind a terribly socially retrograde
thing to do, and I have not changed my mind about that." - Eben Moglen
Previously Franc Zabkar <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote:
> On 6 Jun 2008 11:08:26 GMT, Arno Wagner <me@privacy.net> put finger to
> keyboard and composed:
>>Or are Windows
>>users only able to click and not to type?
>>
>>Arno
> I'd say that was an accurate observation. The really "techy" ones can
> operate a Phillips head screwdriver as well.
A sad state of affairs, when the tool-users are a minorty
in a tool-using species....
Previously House Of The White Rose <no@email.invalid> wrote:
> Arno Wagner <me@privacy.net> wrote in news:6ask5aF36828fU1
> @mid.individual.net:
>> There is a Windows-port and it should work. Or are Windows
>> users only able to click and not to type?
>>
>> Arno
>>
> It's not that we are unable to it's just that we left Dos behind
> many moons ago and want to move forwards and not backwards. Why is
> it that Linux geeks think they are better just because they have
> remember a million or so text commands? **** that ****.
Oh, so you want only to be able to do what your GUI designer
anticipated you might want to do? I have no issue whith that.
The commandline gives me the power to command. The GUI turns
you into somebody controlled and managed in his desires.
It is maybe 20 often used commands, even counting some
applications. Quite laughable in comparison to the
number of terms and concepts you learn in a few weeks
in school. If you cannot deal with that, then you are
truely limited for a human being.
And it is not a Linux thing. Look at what professional admins
demand of OSX or Windows: A method to admininstrate remotely
over a text-interface. Or why do you think the MS powershell is
such a big deal?
> Who cares when the system has to be able to handle a decent GUI anyway.
> Who cares with hard drive space so cheap now.
> Who cares when the system has to be able to handle a decent GUI anyway.
Each English alphabets themselves are images, aren't they?
Each word you speaking and writing are English, right?
Why waste time preparing a video when you could use a few
lines of English?
--
@~@ Might, Courage, Vision, SINCERITY.
/ v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and Farce be with you!
/( _ )\ (Xubuntu 8.04) Linux 2.6.25.5
^ ^ 13:53:01 up 23 min 1 user load average: 1.05 1.04 0.85
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>> Who cares when the system has to be able to handle a decent GUI anyway. Who cares with hard drive space so cheap now.
>> Who cares when the system has to be able to handle a decent GUI anyway.
> Each English alphabets themselves are images, aren't they?
Nope, thats ideograph languages like chinese.
> Each word you speaking and writing are English, right?
Irrelevant to what makes most sense with software.
> Why waste time preparing a video when you could use a few lines of English?
Why bother to remember command line switches when you can just click on the function you require ?
Arno Wagner <me@privacy.net> wrote:
> Previously House Of The White Rose <no@email.invalid> wrote:
>> Arno Wagner <me@privacy.net> wrote in news:6ask5aF36828fU1
>> @mid.individual.net:
>
>>> There is a Windows-port and it should work. Or are Windows
>>> users only able to click and not to type?
>>>
>>> Arno
>>>
>
>> It's not that we are unable to it's just that we left Dos behind
>> many moons ago and want to move forwards and not backwards. Why is
>> it that Linux geeks think they are better just because they have
>> remember a million or so text commands? **** that ****.
> Oh, so you want only to be able to do what your
> GUI designer anticipated you might want to do?
Just as true of command line switches.
> I have no issue whith that.
> The commandline gives me the power to command.
Only within what the designer chose to include in the switches available.
> The GUI turns you into somebody controlled and managed in his desires.
Just like the command line switches do.
> It is maybe 20 often used commands, even counting some applications.
Mindlessly silly with something like Office.
> Quite laughable in comparison to the number of terms and
> concepts you learn in a few weeks in school. If you cannot
> deal with that, then you are truely limited for a human being.
> And it is not a Linux thing. Look at what professional admins demand of
> OSX or Windows: A method to admininstrate remotely over a text-interface.
There's **** all of that anymore.
> Or why do you think the MS powershell is such a big deal?
Arno Wagner <me@privacy.net> wrote:
> Previously Franc Zabkar <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net> wrote:
>> On 6 Jun 2008 11:08:26 GMT, Arno Wagner <me@privacy.net> put finger
>> to keyboard and composed:
>
>>> Or are Windows
>>> users only able to click and not to type?
>>>
>>> Arno
>
>> I'd say that was an accurate observation. The really "techy" ones can
>> operate a Phillips head screwdriver as well.
>
> A sad state of affairs, when the tool-users are a minorty
> in a tool-using species....
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