Re: Which external portable HDD to get these days?
> >>>>>>>> I forgot to mention that sizes can be various. Just list them
> >>>>>>>> all. And these drives need to work outside of Windows
> >>>>>>>> like those bootable imaging DVDs, Norton Ghost, etc.
> >>>>>>> Not clear what you mean by that. You cant boot many of them at
> >>>>>>> all.
> >>>>>> I meant with bootable DVDs with BartPE (running Windows XP and
> >>>>>> Vista base OS -- think of Ultimate Boot CD for Windows), Linux
> >>>>>> (if needed), etc.
> >>>>> Presumably you mean you want those to be able to see the external
> >>>>> drive.
> >>>>>> I do a lot of imaging and restoring of Ghost images on my PCs for
> >>>>>> testings.
> >>>>> Acronis True Image supports external drives fine.
> >>>>>>>>> I am in a need to get another external portal HDD for mostly
> >>>>>>>>> backups. It can be a name brand bundled one or enclosure +
> >>>>>>>>> HDD. However, it has to be from cdw.com since my boss and
> >>>>>>>>> employer said so (dumb, I know -- I guess it is the contracts
> >>>>>>>>> or discounts?). Anyways, I need a big HDD that will carry
> >>>>>>>>> lots of BIG files (usually GB sized) and will be used in
> >>>>>>>>> mostly Windows XP, Vista, and future Windows. Firewire is an
> >>>>>>>>> option, but not required. I definitely need a fast USB 2
> >>>>>>>>> connection (these machines are over three years old and will
> >>>>>>>>> get new machines eventually). I do NOT need those fancy
> >>>>>>>>> software, encryption, etc. I just need storage to switch
> >>>>>>>>> between many different Windows machines (mostly Dell). I
> >>>>>>>>> don't care about colors and sizes either since they will be
> >>>>>>>>> on the floor or desk). AC power is fine if needed. The
> >>>>>>>>> portable drive needs to be stay cool (hated Maxtor OneTouch
> >>>>>>>>> that got super hot even in AC environments and many broke
> >>>>>>>>> down in the past from others' and my experiences). So, please
> >>>>>>>>> kindly list which ones (enclosures, HDD brands, and bundled
> >>>>>>>>> ones) are the best to get. In the past, I told StarTech was
> >>>>>>>>> good. Is this still true today? Thank you in advance. -
> >>>>>>>>> Hide quoted text -
> >>>>> - Show quoted text -
> >>>>
> >>>> Buy 2, of different makes, so you have a backup. No drive is
> >>>> totally reliable.
> >>>
> >>> My bosses won't let me. Just need to pick the best one. Years
> >>> ago, I was told Seagate are still the best due to its five years
> >>> warranty. Is this still true today?
> >
> >> Nope, in fact they are one of the few to manufacture in china and
> >> that shows.
> > Dang. How bad is it now?
> Still pretty bad and stands out like dogs balls in the storagereview
> reliability database and the user ratings in the better retailers web sites.
> > I remember being good especially with warranty time.
> Yeah, but the failure of a drive used for backup can still be
> a complete pain the ****, even if its covered by warranty.
> > What HDD companies are good now these days?
> Samsung.
Unfortunately, cdw.com doesn't seem to carry this HDD brand.
> >>>> There have been reports that some high capacity Seagate drives had
> >>>> problems, but that may be hstory now.
> >>> Like what problem?
> >> They dont last long.
> > Like less than warranty times?
> Yep, they do fail within warranty, but the failure of a drive used for backup
> can still be a complete pain the ****, even if its covered by warranty.
> >>> How can I tell if I am buying the "fixed" models?
> >> You cant.
> >
> Even if you chain the drive down and torture it, the non fixed ones will never confess.
Oh well.
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Re: Which external portable HDD to get these days?
Ant <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Ant <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote
>>> Ed Light <nobody@nobody.there> wrote
>>>> The Antec MX-1 has both USB and eSATA.
>>> Hmm, I think I will get one of these puppies.
>>> Just need to get a HDD. Everyone likes Seagate
>> Nope. They're one of the few manufacturers that makes their drives in china, and it shows.
>>> or something?
>> Yep. Samsung is the way to go, particularly if its a 3.5" drive and you need cool running.
> Unfortunately, cdw.com doesn't seem to carry this HDD brand.
Then you have a problem.
I wouldnt use Seagate in your situation unless you go for a 2.5"
drive because their 3.5" drives get too hot in external enclosures.
Their longer warranty is desirable, but their failure rate is too high for
me and even a swap under warranty is a ****ed nuisance I dont need.
They also took over Maxtor which I have avoided for a long time now.
Hitachi use china for manufacturing too, tho do appear to get less
of a problem from doing that. I dont like the way they can play silly
buggers with warranty claims tho. Excellent OEM manuals tho.
WD doesnt seem to be able to get their act into gear on the most basic
stuff like designing a drive that works fine in both RAID and non RAID.
Re: Which external portable HDD to get these days?
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ant <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote
> > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
> >> Ant <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote
> >>> Ed Light <nobody@nobody.there> wrote
> >>>> The Antec MX-1 has both USB and eSATA.
> >>> Hmm, I think I will get one of these puppies.
> >>> Just need to get a HDD. Everyone likes Seagate
> >> Nope. They're one of the few manufacturers that makes their drives in china, and it shows.
> >>> or something?
> >> Yep. Samsung is the way to go, particularly if its a 3.5" drive and you need cool running.
> > Unfortunately, cdw.com doesn't seem to carry this HDD brand.
> Then you have a problem.
Yep.
> I wouldnt use Seagate in your situation unless you go for a 2.5"
> drive because their 3.5" drives get too hot in external enclosures.
It looks like Antec MX-1 enclosure uses 3.5" HDDs.
> Their longer warranty is desirable, but their failure rate is too high for
> me and even a swap under warranty is a ****ed nuisance I dont need.
> They also took over Maxtor which I have avoided for a long time now.
> Hitachi use china for manufacturing too, tho do appear to get less
> of a problem from doing that. I dont like the way they can play silly
> buggers with warranty claims tho. Excellent OEM manuals tho.
> WD doesnt seem to be able to get their act into gear on the most basic
> stuff like designing a drive that works fine in both RAID and non RAID.
Bummer. I don't use RAID setup on any of the PCs.
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Re: Which external portable HDD to get these days?
Arno Wagner wrote:
>
> Previously Ed Light <nobody@nobody.there> wrote:
> > Arno Wagner wrote:
> >> Sorry, but do your own work. Unless you are willing to pay a
> >> consulting fee?
>
> > Arno, he's looking for people who have experience with external HD's or
> > have already seen some good reviews.
>
> He seems to be looking for people that read the cathalog for him.
> I am happy to recomend some good hardware, but not with these
> restrictions.
>
> Arno
Hello, Arno:
C'mon, man...don't be like The Dour Dutchman® (Folkert Rienstra).
> I am in a need to get another external portal HDD for mostly backups.
> It can be a name brand bundled one or enclosure + HDD. However, it has
> to be from cdw.com since my boss and employer said so (dumb, I know -- I
> guess it is the contracts or discounts?).
> Anyways, I need a big HDD that will carry lots of BIG files (usually GB
> sized) and will be used in mostly Windows XP, Vista, and future Windows.
> Firewire is an option, but not required. I definitely need a fast USB 2
> connection (these machines are over three years old and will get new
> machines eventually). I do NOT need those fancy software, encryption,
> etc. I just need storage to switch between many different Windows
> machines (mostly Dell). I don't care about colors and sizes either since
> they will be on the floor or desk). AC power is fine if needed. The
> portable drive needs to be stay cool (hated Maxtor OneTouch that got
> super hot even in AC environments and many broke down in the past from
> others' and my experiences).
> So, please kindly list which ones (enclosures, HDD brands, and bundled
> ones) are the best to get. In the past, I told StarTech was good. Is
> this still true today?
> Thank you in advance.
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Re: Which external portable HDD to get these days?
Rod Speed wrote in news:6fukniFda4ktU1@mid.individual.net
> Ant <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote
> > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
> > > Ant <ANTant@zimage.com> wrote
> > > > Ed Light <nobody@nobody.there> wrote
>
> > > > > The Antec MX-1 has both USB and eSATA.
>
> > > > Hmm, I think I will get one of these puppies.
> > > > Just need to get a HDD. Everyone likes Seagate
>
> > > Nope. They're one of the few manufacturers that makes their drives in china, and it shows.
>
> > > > or something?
>
> > > Yep. Samsung is the way to go, particularly if its a 3.5" drive and you need cool running.
>
> > Unfortunately, cdw.com doesn't seem to carry this HDD brand.
>
> Then you have a problem.
>
> I wouldnt use Seagate in your situation unless you go for a 2.5"
> drive because their 3.5" drives get too hot in external enclosures.
>
> Their longer warranty is desirable, but their failure rate is too high for
> me and even a swap under warranty is a ****ed nuisance I dont need.
>
> They also took over Maxtor which I have avoided for a long time now.
>
> Hitachi use china for manufacturing too, tho do appear to get less
> of a problem from doing that. I dont like the way they can play silly
> buggers with warranty claims tho. Excellent OEM manuals tho.
> WD doesnt seem to be able to get their act into gear on the most basic
> stuff like designing a drive that works fine in both RAID and non RAID.
They are fine with most cheap simple stuff RAID controllers as found on
MoBos and cheap add-in cards.
It's the professional RAID controllers that have a problem with the
desktop drives due to their inflexibility to allow for the longer retries
that some desktop drives take so they time out on the assumption that
the drive isn't responding where in actual effect the drive is fine.
It's as much WD's fault as it is the RAID controller manufacturer's.
At least they manufacture pure Desktop and pure Server drives each
dedicated to the purpose that they are intended for.
They are now followed by other manufacturers that do the same.
Re: Which external portable HDD to get these days?
Ant wrote:
> I sent an e-mail to get these two items from cdw.com:
>
> 1. Antec VERIS MX-1 Actively Cooled Hard Drive Enclosure storage
>
> 2. WD Caviar Green WD7500AACS - hard drive - 750 GB - SATA-300
Awesome! Glad your boss went for the big drive.
Can't wait to hear your impressions of the combination.
Re: Which external portable HDD to get these days?
On 8/7/2008 3:45 PM PT, Ed Light typed:
> Ant wrote:
>> I sent an e-mail to get these two items from cdw.com:
>>
>> 1. Antec VERIS MX-1 Actively Cooled Hard Drive Enclosure storage
>> 2. WD Caviar Green WD7500AACS - hard drive - 750 GB - SATA-300
>
> Awesome! Glad your boss went for the big drive.
>
> Can't wait to hear your impressions of the combination.
Well not yet in my last post. Now, both my bosses approved. These better
be good! Maybe I will want one for home too.
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Re: Which external portable HDD to get these days? 
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Just need to pick the best one. Years
Maybe I will want one for home too. 
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