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Old 01-13-2008, 03:53 AM
vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com
 
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Default DReading a QRST5 720KB 3.5" Disk Image


I have a program which needs to be written on a 720KD 3.5" Floppy
with qrst5 in order to work. I ordered some such floppies, but am in a
hurry and would rather do a software fix. Any tricks for reading such
an image so I can get to work?

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Old 01-13-2008, 05:01 AM
Arno Wagner
 
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Default Re: DReading a QRST5 720KB 3.5" Disk Image

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage vjp2.at@at.biostrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:

> I have a program which needs to be written on a 720KD 3.5" Floppy
> with qrst5 in order to work. I ordered some such floppies, but am in a
> hurry and would rather do a software fix. Any tricks for reading such
> an image so I can get to work?


Depends. Under linux you can do a loopback mount. An other fix is to
down-format a 1.44 floppy disk.

Arno
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Old 01-13-2008, 05:08 AM
pcbldrNinetyEight
 
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Default Re: DReading a QRST5 720KB 3.5" Disk Image

vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote in
news:fmc1vn$lvp$1@reader2.panix.com:

> I have a program which needs to be written on a 720KD 3.5" Floppy
> with qrst5 in order to work. I ordered some such floppies, but am in a
> hurry and would rather do a software fix. Any tricks for reading such
> an image so I can get to work?


File Manager (Winfile.exe) can format a standard 3.5" floppy to 720KB.

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Old 01-13-2008, 05:15 AM
Todd Vargo
 
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Default Re: DReading a QRST5 720KB 3.5" Disk Image

vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:
> I have a program which needs to be written on a 720KD 3.5" Floppy
> with qrst5 in order to work. I ordered some such floppies, but am in a
> hurry and would rather do a software fix. Any tricks for reading such
> an image so I can get to work?


You can format a 1.44MB as 720KB using FORMAT

FORMAT A: /F:720

However, if you already have an image file, disk imaging programs can write
a 720 image to a 1.44 disk with no problems. I use WinImage to do that.

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Old 01-13-2008, 02:25 PM
John Dulak
 
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Default Re: DReading a QRST5 720KB 3.5" Disk Image

vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:
> I have a program which needs to be written on a 720KD 3.5" Floppy
> with qrst5 in order to work. I ordered some such floppies, but am in a
> hurry and would rather do a software fix. Any tricks for reading such
> an image so I can get to work?
>
> - = -
> Vasos Panagiotopoulos, Columbia'81+, Reagan, Mozart, Pindus, BioStrategist
> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/vjp2/vasos.htm
> ---{Nothing herein constitutes advice. Everything fully disclaimed.}---
> [Homeland Security means private firearms not lazy obstructive guards]
> [Urb sprawl confounds terror] [Remorse begets zeal] [Windows is for Bimbos]


All you have to do is put some tape over the hole in corner of a 1.4
Meg floppy and the drive will treat it as if it was a 720 Kb floppy.

NOTE: the hole in the corner of a floppy case with a sliding cover is
the "Write Protect" hole; you need to cover the hole in the other
corner to emulate a 720 KB floppy. Some drives detect this with an LED
and almost any covering of the hole will work. Other drives use a
mechanical switch so you would need a fairly stiff cover, like several
layers of tape.

HTH & GL

John

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Old 01-14-2008, 03:37 AM
Arno Wagner
 
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Default Re: DReading a QRST5 720KB 3.5" Disk Image

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage John Dulak <Johnd@boogus.com> wrote:
> vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:
>> I have a program which needs to be written on a 720KD 3.5" Floppy
>> with qrst5 in order to work. I ordered some such floppies, but am in a
>> hurry and would rather do a software fix. Any tricks for reading such
>> an image so I can get to work?
>>
>> - = -
>> Vasos Panagiotopoulos, Columbia'81+, Reagan, Mozart, Pindus, BioStrategist
>> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/vjp2/vasos.htm
>> ---{Nothing herein constitutes advice. Everything fully disclaimed.}---
>> [Homeland Security means private firearms not lazy obstructive guards]
>> [Urb sprawl confounds terror] [Remorse begets zeal] [Windows is for Bimbos]


> All you have to do is put some tape over the hole in corner of a 1.4
> Meg floppy and the drive will treat it as if it was a 720 Kb floppy.


That is a veryu bad idea. 1.44M and 720M floppies use different
signal strengths. You will end up with a floppy that may be
unreadable very fast.

Arno

> NOTE: the hole in the corner of a floppy case with a sliding cover is
> the "Write Protect" hole; you need to cover the hole in the other
> corner to emulate a 720 KB floppy. Some drives detect this with an LED
> and almost any covering of the hole will work. Other drives use a
> mechanical switch so you would need a fairly stiff cover, like several
> layers of tape.


> HTH & GL


> John


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> ------------------o000----(o)(o)----000o----------------
> ----------------------------()--------------------------
> '' Madness takes its toll - Please have exact change. ''


> John Dulak - Gnomeway Services - http://tinyurl.com/2qs6o6

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Old 01-14-2008, 04:47 AM
231
 
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Default Re: DReading a QRST5 720KB 3.5" Disk Image

Arno Wagner <me@privacy.net> wrote:
> In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage John Dulak <Johnd@boogus.com>
> wrote:
>> vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:
>>> I have a program which needs to be written on a 720KD 3.5" Floppy
>>> with qrst5 in order to work. I ordered some such floppies, but am
>>> in a hurry and would rather do a software fix. Any tricks for
>>> reading such
>>> an image so I can get to work?
>>>
>>> - = -
>>> Vasos Panagiotopoulos, Columbia'81+, Reagan, Mozart, Pindus,
>>> BioStrategist
>>> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/vjp2/vasos.htm
>>> ---{Nothing herein constitutes advice. Everything fully
>>> disclaimed.}--- [Homeland Security means private firearms not lazy
>>> obstructive guards] [Urb sprawl confounds terror] [Remorse begets
>>> zeal] [Windows is for Bimbos]

>
>> All you have to do is put some tape over the hole in corner of a 1.4
>> Meg floppy and the drive will treat it as if it was a 720 Kb floppy.

>
> That is a veryu bad idea.


Nope, not when the OP wanted a quick and dirty workaround while waiting for the correct media.

> 1.44M and 720M floppies use different signal strengths. You
> will end up with a floppy that may be unreadable very fast.
>
> Arno
>
>> NOTE: the hole in the corner of a floppy case with a sliding cover is
>> the "Write Protect" hole; you need to cover the hole in the other
>> corner to emulate a 720 KB floppy. Some drives detect this with an
>> LED and almost any covering of the hole will work. Other drives use a
>> mechanical switch so you would need a fairly stiff cover, like
>> several layers of tape.

>
>> HTH & GL

>
>> John

>
>> --
>> \\\||///
>> ------------------o000----(o)(o)----000o----------------
>> ----------------------------()--------------------------
>> '' Madness takes its toll - Please have exact change. ''

>
>> John Dulak - Gnomeway Services - http://tinyurl.com/2qs6o6



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Old 01-14-2008, 09:53 AM
231
 
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Default Re: DReading a QRST5 720KB 3.5" Disk Image

Esra Sdrawkcab <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote
> 231 wrote
>> Arno Wagner <me@privacy.net> wrote
>>> John Dulak <Johnd@boogus.com> wrote
>>>> vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote


>>>>> I have a program which needs to be written on a 720KD 3.5"
>>>>> Floppy with qrst5 in order to work. I ordered some such floppies,
>>>>> but am in a hurry and would rather do a software fix. Any tricks
>>>>> for reading such an image so I can get to work?


>>>> All you have to do is put some tape over the hole in corner of a 1.4 Meg floppy and the drive will treat it as if
>>>> it was a 720 Kb floppy.


>>> That is a veryu bad idea.
>>> 1.44M and 720M floppies use different signal strengths. You
>>> will end up with a floppy that may be unreadable very fast.


>> Nope, not when the OP wanted a quick and dirty workaround while waiting for the correct media.


> Disagree


Your problem...

> - if it is a "virgin" disk it should be fine; the problems only occurred when converting one formatted to 1 size to
> another


You're massively confusing what happens with 5¼" floppys with what happens with 3½" floppys.

> (I think LD to HD but IMWBW and even then I feel this applied only to 5.25" (genuine floppy!) disks).


OJYFR

> (order of quoting fixed)


Your anal obsessions are your problem.


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Old 01-16-2008, 04:08 AM
John Turco
 
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Default Re: DReading a QRST5 720KB 3.5" Disk Image

231 wrote:
>
> Esra Sdrawkcab <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote
> > 231 wrote
> >> Arno Wagner <me@privacy.net> wrote
> >>> John Dulak <Johnd@boogus.com> wrote
> >>>> vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote

>
> >>>>> I have a program which needs to be written on a 720KD 3.5"
> >>>>> Floppy with qrst5 in order to work. I ordered some such floppies,
> >>>>> but am in a hurry and would rather do a software fix. Any tricks
> >>>>> for reading such an image so I can get to work?

>
> >>>> All you have to do is put some tape over the hole in corner of a 1.4 Meg floppy and the drive will treat it as if
> >>>> it was a 720 Kb floppy.

>
> >>> That is a veryu bad idea.
> >>> 1.44M and 720M floppies use different signal strengths. You
> >>> will end up with a floppy that may be unreadable very fast.

>
> >> Nope, not when the OP wanted a quick and dirty workaround while waiting for the correct media.

>
> > Disagree

>
> Your problem...
>
> > - if it is a "virgin" disk it should be fine; the problems only occurred when converting one formatted to 1 size to
> > another

>
> You're massively confusing what happens with 5¼" floppys with what happens with 3½" floppys.
>
> > (I think LD to HD but IMWBW and even then I feel this applied only to 5.25" (genuine floppy!) disks).

>
> OJYFR
>
> > (order of quoting fixed)

>
> Your anal obsessions are your problem.



Hello, Rod:

Okay, what I >really< want to know, is...what the hell does "IMWBW"
stand for, anyway? :-)


Cordially,
John Turco <jtur@concentric.net>
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Old 01-16-2008, 09:01 AM
Rod Speed
 
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Default Re: DReading a QRST5 720KB 3.5" Disk Image

John Turco <jtur@concentric.net> wrote:
> 231 wrote:
>>
>> Esra Sdrawkcab <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote
>>> 231 wrote
>>>> Arno Wagner <me@privacy.net> wrote
>>>>> John Dulak <Johnd@boogus.com> wrote
>>>>>> vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote

>>
>>>>>>> I have a program which needs to be written on a 720KD 3.5"
>>>>>>> Floppy with qrst5 in order to work. I ordered some such
>>>>>>> floppies, but am in a hurry and would rather do a software fix.
>>>>>>> Any tricks for reading such an image so I can get to work?

>>
>>>>>> All you have to do is put some tape over the hole in corner of a
>>>>>> 1.4 Meg floppy and the drive will treat it as if it was a 720 Kb
>>>>>> floppy.

>>
>>>>> That is a veryu bad idea.
>>>>> 1.44M and 720M floppies use different signal strengths. You
>>>>> will end up with a floppy that may be unreadable very fast.

>>
>>>> Nope, not when the OP wanted a quick and dirty workaround while
>>>> waiting for the correct media.

>>
>>> Disagree

>>
>> Your problem...
>>
>>> - if it is a "virgin" disk it should be fine; the problems only
>>> occurred when converting one formatted to 1 size to another

>>
>> You're massively confusing what happens with 5¼" floppys with what
>> happens with 3½" floppys.
>>
>>> (I think LD to HD but IMWBW and even then I feel this applied only
>>> to 5.25" (genuine floppy!) disks).

>>
>> OJYFR
>>
>>> (order of quoting fixed)

>>
>> Your anal obsessions are your problem.

>
>
> Hello, Rod:
>
> Okay, what I >really< want to know, is...what the hell does "IMWBW" stand for, anyway? :-)


If I told you that I'd have to kill you. And even you wouldnt want that.

And stop that smirking, this is no laughing matter, boy.


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